View Full Version : Food/Drink spell of priests
Schrag
07-28-2006, 04:15 PM
With the introduction of craftable food the priest spell has become useless. Why not repair it? I could think of a short time (between 5 and 15 minutes) medium quality (better then npc food, less good than crafted) instant consumed food/drink buff with level equal caster level, castable on anyone in group/raid.
Liandra
07-28-2006, 05:22 PM
<P>Ummm. this spell is not supposed to create food/drink comparable to Provisioner stuff. It has been that way since release 2 years ago.</P> <P>It is only supposed to be used in the rare situations that someone runs out of decent food/drink and none of the others in the group are willing to share.</P>
Tirga
07-28-2006, 06:19 PM
Admitedly, at least slighly-less than vender quality would nice. <div></div>
Carter
07-28-2006, 06:37 PM
the +5 to regen is completely worthless even at the lower lvls. perhaps they could do it to where it is 5 lower than the vendor bought stuff for your tier?<div></div>
Macibaru
07-28-2006, 06:43 PM
I don't think it should be comparable to Provi stuff either, but it would be nice if it made food at least even with your tier, even if it were below vendor quality.I.E. instead of it automatically always being the lowest quality tier 1 food, maybe at level 11 it became lowest quality tier 2, then at 21 increased again, and so on.I have never once used this spell, the free newbie food lasted me beyond 10th level, and by then I was making my own tier 2 food, or being able to afford to buy it off the market.<div></div>
ironman2000
07-28-2006, 06:54 PM
I don't think anyone is saying make it near quality of Provisioner crafted food, I think they are just saying make it slightly less than the vendor food, like 5-10 regen less per tick than the stuff you could buy off the vendors that sell the vendor food for your teir. I think they are just asking for the spell to grow in level with the character like the way scout stealth does or caster invis does.
HazlenutElf
07-28-2006, 09:26 PM
Well what lvl of vendor food would it compar to then? What happens when a level 70 casts it on a level 15, what kind of food do they get? If anything just take the worthless spell out.
Magic
07-28-2006, 10:06 PM
<P>I've always thought it silly for a priest to make food and drink in the first place. This is conjuration and it should be left to the Summoner classes. Maybe if it were a spell to convert something, like harvested raws, into food or drink, that would make more sense to me.</P> <P>To me, the only good that the priest-made food and drink does is stop the "you are hungry/thirsty" messages.</P>
Tirga
07-28-2006, 10:14 PM
To Hazlenutelf... It would probably do the same thing regular food does... scale down. As it stands a level 2 character can eat level 70 food, it's just perportional. So make they could make this spell summon level 70 food instead, it'd scale up as characters progressed. <div></div>
Terabethia
07-28-2006, 11:10 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HazlenutElf wrote:<BR> Well what lvl of vendor food would it compar to then? What happens when a level 70 casts it on a level 15, what kind of food do they get? If anything just take the worthless spell out.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT color=#33ccff>It doesn't matter what level the food is compaired to the user because you will only obtain the benifits up to your max level. So if you are level 30, you can use level 70 food but will only get the benifits of a level 30 food. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>As far as this idea goes, I actually like it. But I must say, I have only ever used this spell once, and that was when I was in my early teens and someone in our group ran out of drink. And for the question about why the priests have this and not summoners, well... it's just one of our useless little utilities that we have. In EQ1 clerics had this, as well, but it was more useful. It cast 5 food/drink at a time, and since it worked different in EQ1 (you HAD to eat/drink, otherwise you would become "starved" and start loosing stats) it didn't make a difference what you ate. </FONT></P>
Simon Snowlock
07-29-2006, 05:02 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aljola wrote:<BR> <P>I've always thought it silly for a priest to make food and drink in the first place. This is conjuration and it should be left to the Summoner classes. </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It's been a staple of D&D for a while plus it has Biblical precedent.
DwarvesR
07-31-2006, 09:49 AM
Personally, I just delete the spell off my hotbar as soon as I get it. It's utter garbage. And I have 4 healers. . . Not one of them has this spell in its hotbar.
Jooneau
08-01-2006, 12:37 PM
It takes as close to no effort as possible for a priest to conjure up summoned food and drink. There is no way that summoned food and drink should be anywhere close to provisioner quality or even NPC-sold. At least vendor-sold provisions costs money. Summoned food and drink are effectively free. The only way they would ever make this spell produce appropriate level food and drink is if they put a really long reuse timer on it and made it consume a reagent comparable in cost to vendor-sold provisions as well.
Tuppen
08-02-2006, 01:01 AM
<P>Since making this spell even remotely useful would upset provisioners, it should simply be removed from the game. It is completely useless. </P> <P>The level at which you might even consider using it--pre level 10--you have no need for it because you already have plenty of newbie food given to you at character creation for at least 15 levels. </P> <P>Until they remove it from the game, the best suggestion is to just delete it from your hotbar and never bother about it again.</P>
ironman2000
08-02-2006, 03:21 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HazlenutElf wrote:<BR> Well what lvl of vendor food would it compar to then? What happens when a level 70 casts it on a level 15, what kind of food do they get? If anything just take the worthless spell out.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No no no, LOL I think what they are saying is "Let it scale to the level of the Recipiant" so this wouldn't be an issue. If a level 70 casts it for a level 15 it should scale to the level 15 person minus some, but if the level 70 casts in on him or herself it should be level 70 minus some, so that its not as good as what can be made by provisioners. Even if it matched the person it was cast on and take a way 5 levels or something that would be for in a pinch like if you are in a dungeon and you get an "OH CRAP!!!! I FORGOT TO GET FOOD AND WATER" lol you can give them something close to appropriate to level till they can get out of the dungeon and get the real stuff from your friendly neighborhood provisioner <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
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