Freeport side Call of heroes type of spell requested. possible name call of villian?

[Ellasar]

<div></div>Hello I was just wondering if there has been any thought about giving one of the freeport classes (possible one of the mages) a call of heroe type of spell. On the pvp servers it makes a big difference in that a group could be at the bottom of a dungeon and could summon a groupmate down, whereas a freeport group would have to fight all the way up and possibly face opposing faction camping. I just thought I would throw the idea out there and see if you have given any thought to implementing a freeport side version of this spell.You could say the spell transcribers discovered a new spell for whatever class it is.anyhoo fee;l free to bash me for bringing this up.dangit i think i posted this in the wrong place.If it is please feel free to move it to the appropriate area for future ideas or whatever.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Ellasar on <span class=date_text>07-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:57 AM</span>

[Korb]

Just give Conjourers FD's and give Necro's Call of Hero's. lol:smileytongue:

[Silverpaws]

<div><blockquote><hr>Ellasar wrote:<div></div>Hello I was just wondering if there has been any thought about giving one of the freeport classes (possible one of the mages) a call of heroe type of spell. On the pvp servers it makes a big difference in that a group could be at the bottom of a dungeon and could summon a groupmate down, whereas a freeport group would have to fight all the way up and possibly face opposing faction camping. I just thought I would throw the idea out there and see if you have given any thought to implementing a freeport side version of this spell.You could say the spell transcribers discovered a new spell for whatever class it is.anyhoo fee;l free to bash me for bringing this up.dangit i think i posted this in the wrong place.If it is please feel free to move it to the appropriate area for future ideas or whatever.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Ellasar on <span class="date_text">07-25-2006</span> <span class="time_text">10:57 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>We used to call that a corpse summons.  Got coffins?</div>

[Ellasar]

call of heroe does not require yuou to be dead. You summon the group member from anywhere in the zone to your group.<div></div>

[tupercent]

<DIV>And give swashy the brigand debuffs for pvp server raiding, and rangers ice comet to match assasins dps, and warlocks fd to help with agro control and umm lets see what other ridiculous thing we can come up with.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Coal 70 Conj</DIV> <DIV>Vox Server</DIV>

[Krooner]

<DIV>How about potions and totems that give anyone ANY spell in the game.  A potion that lets you FD or Sunami or Harm Touch.   LOL :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Leawyn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ellasar wrote:<BR>call of heroe does not require yuou to be dead. You summon the group member from anywhere in the zone to your group.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's not the point... /shakes head... The point is in EQ1, necros were given corpse summons (you know... evil version of call of hero?) which they do not have here (and understandably so, since we do not have corpse drags or anything that will move a corpse as things stand).

[Gungo]

<DIV>Although i sympathize with the original poster thats just the way it is. Certain classes have abilities that do not transcend faction. For instance charm and mem wipe are exclusive to coercers which qeynosians don't have. CoH for conjurors which freeportians dont have.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>CoH is an inconvience. Qeynosians lacking mem wipe and charm can make certain fights much more difficult.  Raids trying to split vyemm and alzid. fights where charming adds for extra dps is a viable tactic like the nizara final mob etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Qeynosians also lack alot of the hate buffs. while dirges are neutral. coercers, and assasins hate transfers can hurt. Swashies are good so that may help a bit.</DIV>

[frisco4]

No.<div></div>

[Deson]

As long as my necro doesnt end up with it, sure go for it. <div></div>

[Emperad]

   here is an idea screw necros that seemingly always get the love and give it to another casting class, a class that isnt always required on a raid or group.<div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Emperador wrote:   here is an idea screw necros that seemingly always get the love and give it to another casting class, a class that isnt always required on a raid or group.<div></div><hr></blockquote>And necros are always required in a raid or group?

[Kizee]

How about we don't balance the game around PvP.

[Silverpaws]

<div><blockquote><hr>Kizee wrote:<div></div>How about we don't balance the game around PvP.<hr></blockquote>Haha... tell that to the mages....</div>

[Seiden]

<div><blockquote><hr>Kizee wrote:<div></div>How about we don't balance the game around PvP.<hr></blockquote>freaking here here! I am sick of getting nerfed because of pvp, I think pvp needs to get their own changes.</div>

[Homeskillet]

    People ask for the unique abilities of classes to be shared across the bored, crying for balance. Weeks later you will see a post by the same person claiming there is no uniqueness to any class, that they all do the same things.<div></div>

[ironman2000]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Leawyn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ellasar wrote:<BR>call of heroe does not require yuou to be dead. You summon the group member from anywhere in the zone to your group.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's not the point... /shakes head... The point is in EQ1, necros were given corpse summons (you know... evil version of call of hero?) which they do not have here (and understandably so, since we do not have corpse drags or anything that will move a corpse as things stand).<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Plus it was a big exploit in EQ 1 where you would just have lower level people die in a zone with a named you needed and have a higher level necro go right to the named and summon their corpses.  Its a Balance thing though, I mean don't necros get a 100% feign death at the same time conjurers get CoH? I know they don't work the same but thats what they did, so are you saying they should take Feign Death away from necros to give them this or are you saying they should give conjurors something else to make up for this? 

[MexStrat]

I am on both sides of this story.  I really think useful, non-combat spells and effects should be shared across alignment.  But at the same time i don't think giving Something to another class just to make this so is the right thing to do.What i do believe, is SOE needs to be more dilegent when examining a spell and it's effects.   Call of the Hero, is a perfect fit for a summoner in flavor.  But does it increase the summoners combative capabilities or does it just make them much more useful to people.   I think if a quatlity evaluation is done for spells like this in future, attempts can be made to give these styles of spells and skills to a nuetral aligned class. I think that would be very benificial to the game..<div></div>

[Findara]

Take Call of Hero, but what do you want to give to the Conj, that necros have?  I really dont see how you could line up FD to be a conj spell. I could see them giving us a Elemental Charm (NO possible use for that spell ever), or consumption....ooh that spell is [Removed for Content] I really want that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  Yea thoes two are the best necro 50-60 spell to give to conj <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> even though the <div></div>

[KBern]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Emperador wrote:<BR>  here is an idea screw necros that seemingly always get the love and give it to another casting class, a class that isnt always required on a raid or group.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>So what is all this "love" you speak of, and what is it about necros that make them "required" for a raid and or group?</P> <P>Or are you just someone who likes to talk out of their "psuedonym for donkey"?</P>