New Broker - awkward to use

[Maroger]

<DIV>The new broker is very awkward to use.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When we sold from the market board, there was button BROWSE PRICES. And we could click on that and check prices before pricing our items. We could have our market board price up at the same time as the Browse broker prices.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>NOw we have to exit the sell and price window in order to browse prices on the brokers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the age of compute technology I find this a step into the dark ages as now you will have to keep a pen and pencil list of your items before you browse the broker.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Come on -- couldn't you people define a better interface that didn't require a pen and penci and note pad to be used on the side!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well know you </DIV>

[gm9]

Well aren't you friendly today. /boggleRight clicking an item in the sell tab will give you the option to search for it automatically. I agree it's not perfect that you'll have to go back to your sell tab afterwards, but at least your item remains selected when you come back.

[PlatSt]

Can you still see the sell price(i.e. the price before the broker fee) when you search the broker for this reason?  Or do you have to click on each item individually to see that?

[gm9]

You have to click the items individually.On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[PlatSt]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Roggobh wrote:<BR>You have to click the items individually.<BR><BR>On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Damnit!  Another idiot-proofing!!!</P> <P>PLEASE stop protecting the morons from themselves.  A large part of the draw of MMOs(for me, anyway) is having a pure market economy.  It's no fun at all when there are no potential consequences to being uninformed and/or stupid.  Besides, isn't a game more fun when there is actually room to improve at it as you make mistakes and learn from the consequences?</P>

[gm9]

Exactly, eBay doesn't protects it's millions of stupid customers buying overpriced junk, either, and is still wildly popular. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[BWLeeEllison]

<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#3399cc size=3>Pen and paper?  What, are you a caveman?  I just open notepad 8P</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#3399cc size=3>RAGE ON</FONT></P>

[MadLordOfMilk]

<div><blockquote><hr>PlatStud wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Roggobh wrote:You have to click the items individually.On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Damnit!  Another idiot-proofing!!!</p> <p>PLEASE stop protecting the morons from themselves.  A large part of the draw of MMOs(for me, anyway) is having a pure market economy.  <font color="#ff0000">It's no fun at all when there are no potential consequences to being <font color="#ffffff">uninformed and/or</font> stupid</font>.  Besides, isn't a game more fun when there is actually room to improve at it as you make mistakes and learn from the consequences?</p><hr></blockquote>I can see not wanting to punish the uninformed, but I can't live in a world without punishments for idiots <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[Calthine]

All idiot proofing should be eliminated.  Every time you idtot proof something they make a better idiot.

[Maroger]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BWLeeEllison wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#3399cc size=3>Pen and paper?  What, are you a caveman?  I just open notepad 8P</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#3399cc size=3>RAGE ON</FONT></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I HATE notepad - never use it. Too much typing involved --</P> <P>They should have at least given you some sort of split screen so you could see the search result and YOUR ITEM.</P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Calthine wrote:<BR> All idiot proofing should be eliminated.  Every time you idtot proof something they make a better idiot.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>The only idiot is the designer of the system and the people who can't see the problems with the can of worms we are being handed!<BR><BR></P><p>Message Edited by Maroger on <span class=date_text>06-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:46 AM</span>

[Xaz]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Roggobh wrote:On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>Noooooooo!  My low level Fury makes good coin with arbitrage.  I can't believe they are doing that.  its not hard to stop by a vendor to see how much something sells for; why punish those who do?<div></div>

[Maroger]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xaz wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Roggobh wrote:<BR>On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Noooooooo!  My low level Fury makes good coin with arbitrage.  I can't believe they are doing that.  its not hard to stop by a vendor to see how much something sells for; why punish those who do?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>The object of this LU is to make sure that NO MONEY can be made other than by adventuring! They did the same thing in EQ1 -- killed crafting so you could only make money by adventuring. In EQ1 too they nerfed the prices of selling to an NPC Vendor -- you actually had to sell below cost to an NPC Vendor -- same stunt happening here. I wonder if they imported the designed of that piece of dirty tricks to work on EQ2 -- sounds like the same mind at work!!<BR><p>Message Edited by Maroger on <span class=date_text>06-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:56 PM</span>

[Sulas]

I have to agree.  Get rid of the NPC value indicator!Let the market be free; if people are too lazy to go to an NPC vendor to sell, then let those who want to do the heavy lifting make a small profit.  DO NOT include the buyback price indicator.<div></div>

[PlatSt]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Calthine wrote:<BR> All idiot proofing should be eliminated.  Every time you <FONT color=#ff0000>idtot</FONT> proof something they make a better idiot.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Call me [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if you must, but I found this funny given the context.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  No offense Cal.

[Rijacki]

<div><blockquote><hr>PlatStud wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Calthine wrote: <div></div>All idiot proofing should be eliminated.  Every time you <font color="#ff0000">idtot</font> proof something they make a better idiot. <hr> </blockquote>Call me [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if you must, but I found this funny given the context.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  No offense Cal.<hr></blockquote>It's a baby ID!  Freud would be so proud *smirk*</div>

[Calthine]

ROFLMAO! Yeah, that's funny.  Think I'll leave it in there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Lydiae]

<P></P> <HR> <P>Xaz wrote:</P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Roggobh wrote:<BR>On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Noooooooo!  My low level Fury makes good coin with arbitrage.  I can't believe they are doing that.  its not hard to stop by a vendor to see how much something sells for; why punish those who do?</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>Please.  This is the kind of underhanded trickery that gives market players (usually crafters as well) a bad name in certain circles.  One reason they're nerfing crafted items is players complaining about crafters gouging them.  I have no problem with charging as much as another player is willing to pay, or cornering markets, but this sort of thing is just a con and is flat wrong.</P><p>Message Edited by Lydiaele on <span class=date_text>06-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:55 PM</span>

[PlatSt]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lydiaele wrote:<BR> <P></P> <HR> <P>Xaz wrote:</P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Roggobh wrote:<BR>On the bright side, you get an indication if you price under what the NPC vendor would give you. Shame, I regularly buy those underpriced items. <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Noooooooo!  My low level Fury makes good coin with arbitrage.  I can't believe they are doing that.  its not hard to stop by a vendor to see how much something sells for; why punish those who do?</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>Please.  This is the kind of underhanded trickery that gives market players (usually crafters as well) a bad name in certain circles.  One reason they're nerfing crafted items is players complaining about crafters gouging them.  I have no problem with charging as much as another player is willing to pay, or cornering markets, but this sort of thing is just a con and is flat wrong.</P> <P>Message Edited by Lydiaele on <SPAN class=date_text>06-13-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:55 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>WHAT!!?????!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!   Trickery?  If some cheese-brain wants to sell something on the broker for 2g that sell to the merchant for 4g, how did I trick him?</P> <P> </P> <P>SOE: Protecting morons from themsleves since 2004.</P>