T7 Rares for spells/ca's

[rcknchr]

<DIV>Why does the scout and fighter have to compete for spongy loams, while the priest (moonstones), and mages(acrylia) dont. Shouldnt there be a 4 rare added so each class will have a certain rare to use.</DIV>

[Cruisino]

I think thier  logic is  Scouts and Fighters use loam,  Acrylia is used for Mage Adept 3 AND Scout/Fighter stat jewlery, and moonstones are used for priest adept3 and Mage/Priest Jewlery  in an attempt to balance out the demand for all the rares. The only problem i see is it seems  spongy loam is more rare then the other two  at least on Unrest<div></div>

[Lint26]

<DIV>Spongy Loam is also much more rare on Runnyeye than Moonstone, currently on the Qeynos broker there are 3 pages of moonstone and only 13 loams in total, 11 of which are from a known botter so I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than buy from him.</DIV>

[JadzeaDax]

<DIV>Did the devs post anything on why they made this change?  Thanks in advance.</DIV>

[Kizee]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JadzeaDax wrote:<BR> <DIV>Did the devs post anything on why they made this change?  Thanks in advance.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Because it wasn't very fair that all the classes except fighters used moonstones for adept 3's. This was their way of "solving" the problem.</P> <P>IMO they should have left it the way it was from tiers 1-6 but you know SOE with their lets change something to change it attitude....even tho it was working fine before.</P>

[OperationsX]

<DIV>Everyone who's anyone who pays attention to the market KNOWS spongy loam is the rarest. On my server spongy loam stayed at about 1-5 on the broker at any given time for **3 months*** meanwhile there was about 20-40 moonstoens at any given time in that same period. When rares became more avaliable on adventure drops spongy loam finally hit the omg 1 page of em status..meanwhile moonstones were at 5 pages and much cheaper. Now cuz of this change, back to 1-5 spongy loam at insane price again, meanwhile moonstones going more and lower.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nice balance out...not....if everyone knows this and was against it why did it go through? Oh duh, that was stupid to ask :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Kegofbud]

True, all they did was make the rarest rare, well, rarer. Mages made out great on this though. I congratulate them for finally being able to get all their upgrades cheaply. Go get yourselves upgraded right away before they change their minds. lol

[jebewa]

<P>6 hours of harvesting and here is what I found.</P> <P>597 Porous loam ( Value = <6 gold)<BR>537 Adamantine clusters ( Value = @ 50 gold)<BR>7 Perfectly cut purple geodes ( Value + 3 silver)<BR>7 Blue-silver sheets ( Value = 1 Silver)<BR>1 Scintillating stone ( value = 75 Silver)<BR>2 Xegonite clusters ( Value = 2 platinum)<BR>The values above are based on current prices on the Qeynos broker on Mistmoore server.</P> <P>If I managed to sell everything I harvested today, I still would not have enough to buy a spongy loam.</P> <P>Below are the current spell and combat art upgrade rares listed on the Qeynos broker.</P> <P>143 Acrylia clusters ( lowest price = 1 Plat 5 Gold )<BR>72 rough Moonstone ( lowest price = 1 plat 45 gold<BR>8 Spongy loams. <------ that's an 8 (eight) not 80 or 108. ( lowest price = 3 Plat 47 gold )</P>

[Lydiae]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jebewa wrote:<BR> <P>143 Acrylia clusters ( lowest price = 1 Plat 5 Gold )<BR>72 rough Moonstone ( lowest price = 1 plat 45 gold<BR>8 Spongy loams. <------ that's an 8 (eight) not 80 or 108. ( lowest price = 3 Plat 47 gold )</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Acrylia was plentiful because no one wanted it - the jewelry made from it is easily bested by common drops.</P> <P>All priests and Mages were competing for moonstones, and the gem nodes were the most harvested for rares.  Check the number of common gems dumped on the broker for pennies each on your server.</P> <P>Xegonite has little demand for the same reason acrylia clusters used to.  Ore nodes weren't harvested as much, just check the prices  and quantity of adamantine on your broker -  the numbers and pricing would match common gems if the nodes were being harvested as much.</P> <P>Also, there are gem nodes in the only aggro-free harvesting area I know of in KoS.</P> <P>It will even out.</P>

[OperationsX]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lydiaele wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jebewa wrote:<BR> <P>143 Acrylia clusters ( lowest price = 1 Plat 5 Gold )<BR>72 rough Moonstone ( lowest price = 1 plat 45 gold<BR>8 Spongy loams. <------ that's an 8 (eight) not 80 or 108. ( lowest price = 3 Plat 47 gold )</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Acrylia was plentiful because no one wanted it - the jewelry made from it is easily bested by common drops.</P> <P>All priests and Mages were competing for moonstones, and the gem nodes were the most harvested for rares.  Check the number of common gems dumped on the broker for pennies each on your server.</P> <P>Xegonite has little demand for the same reason acrylia clusters used to.  Ore nodes weren't harvested as much, just check the prices  and quantity of adamantine on your broker -  the numbers and pricing would match common gems if the nodes were being harvested as much.</P> <P>Also, there are gem nodes in the only aggro-free harvesting area I know of in KoS.</P> <P>It will even out.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Sorry but it wont even out will just get worse. Your spell makers if they had been making ad3 before the change aren't gonna wanna buy the new value ones and have to reprice..too risky when everythings up in the air atm. </P> <P>In one weeks time his servers stock should look like this:</P> <P>90 Acrylia clusters (lowest price = 70g) , 110 Rough Moonstones (lowest price 75g) , 2 Spongy loams (lowest 6p)</P> <P>If you call that balanced you possibly might be missing fiber in your diet. Definately B vitamins.</P>

[Belaythien]

Same situation on my server ...Even before the LU23 announcement prices for loam where at about 175% of that of moonstone.Now prices are 2,5p for moonstone 1p for acrylia and 4,5 for loam. Does SOE really want to tell me that I have to pay 4,5 times more than a mage? Hello? Where's the fairness in that? <b>Are Scouts and Tanks second class players?</b> You have to be literally blind to make such an "adjustment".Guess I'll just retire my main (a Scout) and either play my healer (with KoS and the recent LUs the basically killed my Coercer so I'm running out of classes to play) or none at all until they change it to something decent. Something that won't make me feel like I should suffer just because I play a Scout. Another one gone .. oh well let's see when raids don't have a single scout. Quite often I was already the only one ... <span>:smileyindifferent:</span>Then again with all those changes towards the holy Trinity of Heal, Tank and DPS you don't need Scouts anyway. I wonder however why tanks are still stuck at loam. Must be a bug <span>:smileysad:</span>

[Tro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Belaythien wrote:<BR>Same situation on my server ...<BR><BR>Even before the LU23 announcement prices for loam where at about 175% of that of moonstone.<BR><BR>Now prices are 2,5p for moonstone 1p for acrylia and 4,5 for loam. <FONT color=#ff0033>Does SOE really want to tell me that I have to pay 4,5 times more than a mage?</FONT> Hello? Where's the fairness in that? <B>Are Scouts and Tanks second class players?</B> You have to be literally blind to make such an "adjustment".<BR><BR>Guess I'll just retire my main (a Scout) and either play my healer (with KoS and the recent LUs the basically killed my Coercer so I'm running out of classes to play) or none at all until they change it to something decent. Something that won't make me feel like I should suffer just because I play a Scout. Another one gone .. oh well let's see when raids don't have a single scout. Quite often I was already the only one ... <SPAN>:smileyindifferent:</SPAN><BR><BR>Then again with all those changes towards the holy Trinity of Heal, Tank and DPS you don't need Scouts anyway. I wonder however why tanks are still stuck at loam. Must be a bug <SPAN>:smileysad:</SPAN><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>How much did the mage pay for moonstones prior to LU23? <BR>

[Lairdragna]

Well fighters were paying 4p or more, now it is worse because they are no more common than before and twice as many people need em.  The people saying it will all even out are most likely benefitting from this asanine decision.  Good times to be a mage or priest.  If I was level 50 mage or priest I'd screw updating my current spells and would be getting my T7 adepts made and banking them while I could for so little.  For what it would cost me to upgrade 3 or 4 T7 abilities on my paladin a mage or priest could upgrade ALL their's!  That's [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ed up!<div></div>

[OperationsX]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trook wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Belaythien wrote:<BR>Same situation on my server ...<BR><BR>Even before the LU23 announcement prices for loam where at about 175% of that of moonstone.<BR><BR>Now prices are 2,5p for moonstone 1p for acrylia and 4,5 for loam. <FONT color=#ff0033>Does SOE really want to tell me that I have to pay 4,5 times more than a mage?</FONT> Hello? Where's the fairness in that? <B>Are Scouts and Tanks second class players?</B> You have to be literally blind to make such an "adjustment".<BR><BR>Guess I'll just retire my main (a Scout) and either play my healer (with KoS and the recent LUs the basically killed my Coercer so I'm running out of classes to play) or none at all until they change it to something decent. Something that won't make me feel like I should suffer just because I play a Scout. Another one gone .. oh well let's see when raids don't have a single scout. Quite often I was already the only one ... <SPAN>:smileyindifferent:</SPAN><BR><BR>Then again with all those changes towards the holy Trinity of Heal, Tank and DPS you don't need Scouts anyway. I wonder however why tanks are still stuck at loam. Must be a bug <SPAN>:smileysad:</SPAN><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>How much did the mage pay for moonstones prior to LU23? <BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Oh about 2-3x less than fighters still, now its 4-5, next week probably 6-7.<p>Message Edited by OperationsX on <span class=date_text>05-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:12 AM</span>