Exile - Betrayal - Exile - Betrayal - Exile - Betrayal

[minionofdeath]

As LU23 goes live soon, I have to ask what is going on with the Exile/Betrayal quests.  MG posted before LU20 that it would make an appearance in the next 1 or 2 updates after LU20.  No info since.  When is this coming?  An answer of "when it's ready" would be a kick in the teeth but at least that would be an answer.  Seriously though, please give us some information on when we can expect this in game.<div></div>

[ke'la]

<P>They have stated that it will take longer then they thought AND that they are thinking atleast 24ish.</P> <P>Asking the same question Every update wont change the "when it's ready answer". Look at the Tradeskill changes they where Hopeful that they would be in by now, but oviously they are not ready, same is true about Exile, and if you read the things they told people at Fan Fair about you would understand the delay.</P>

[minionofdeath]

Can you post more about how you know or have heard it will be LU24 or thereabouts?  I've been on these forums daily and saw no such mention of it in peoples FF notes.  Would appreciate if you could post some links.<div></div>

[Ildarus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> minionofdeath wrote:<BR>As LU23 goes live soon, I have to ask what is going on with the Exile/Betrayal quests.  MG posted before LU20 that it would make an appearance in the next 1 or 2 updates after LU20.  No info since.  When is this coming?  An answer of "when it's ready" would be a kick in the teeth but at least that would be an answer.  Seriously though, please give us some information on when we can expect this in game.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>How about let them get it done right instead of releasing it all buggy. I would much rather see it in LU24 or LU25 working than full of bugs in LU23. This game is going to be around for years and there is no rush for these changes. I would really like to see the crafting changes come soon, but it is not ruining my game play waiting for them to get it done right.

[Dazzler_Twodir]

Wonder if they even started it at all.

[Nib]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ildarus wrote: How about let them get it done right instead of releasing it all buggy. I would much rather see it in LU24 or LU25 working than full of bugs in LU23. This game is going to be around for years and there is no rush for these changes. I would really like to see the crafting changes come soon, but it is not ruining my game play waiting for them to get it done right. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I don't think he's requesting they rush it out  before it's tested. He's asking if there has been any progress or set backs. By acknologing that betrayal would be added I believe they opened themselves up for progress report requests.</P> <P>I'm not sure where you're going with your second point about EQ2 being around for years to come.  Sure it is, but that has nothing to do with regular updates. To answer your question about crafting changes; a rough estimate has been given as to when they will be available (unlike high level betrayal).</P> <P>Found here: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=89493" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=89493</A></P>

[ke'la]

<DIV>Here is a link from someone who attended the Summit at Fan Fair the Info about when the Exil thing is comming out is about halfway down. Please also note the part about how the devs won't intro PvP focused content until most of the Griffing Exploites are worked out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Venekor&message.id=6043#M6043" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Venekor&message.id=6043#M6043</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>::EDIT::<BR></DIV> <DIV>note the Origanal Post Date of 4-9-06, LU 22 came out 4-13-06 so I guess you can count that as 1 but I would NOT as 3 or so really means more then 3. So I would not even start looking for it until LU 26 or 27.</DIV><p>Message Edited by ke'la on <span class=date_text>05-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:37 AM</span>

[minionofdeath]

<div><blockquote><hr>ke'la wrote:<div></div> <div>Here is a link from someone who attended the Summit at Fan Fair the Info about when the Exil thing is comming out is about halfway down. Please also note the part about how the devs won't intro PvP focused content until most of the Griffing Exploites are worked out.</div> <div> </div> <div><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Venekor&message.id=6043#M6043" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Venekor&message.id=6043#M6043</a></div> <div> </div> <div>::EDIT::</div> <div>note the Origanal Post Date of 4-9-06, LU 22 came out 4-13-06 so I guess you can count that as 1 but I would NOT as 3 or so really means more then 3. So I would not even start looking for it until LU 26 or 27.</div><p>Message Edited by ke'la on <span class="date_text">05-01-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:37 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Ok now I'm super depressed.  After reading that link you posted, every mention of Exile has to do with PvP and the creation of another faction.  Does this mean people on PvE don't get the betrayal and exile quest?  Obviously this game change is alot more involved than previously posted.  I'm sure that's why it's taking time.  Straight up matter of factly, my involvement with game ends if the high lvl betrayal quest does not appear on the PvE servers.  I'll repeat what I said in a previous post.  SOE are stringing people along to maintain subscriptions.  MG stated before LU20, "We anticipate it will arrive in the next update or two after LU20. That's subject to change, of course."  LU26/27 is not really the next update or two after LU20 is it.  Clearly things changed.  So how about some info stating that.  The last word we had from SOE was MG saying the quote above.  I'm anxious to hear anything for two reasons.  One, I want to change classes.  Two, there is now class specific armor in game.  It doesn't make sense to acquire this, betray, then end up with armor you can't use and quests that cannot be repeated.  So naturally I held off on doing them.  It's the not knowing that's making me annoyed.  If MG said this wouldn't be in game for several months, then I'd respect that more than what he stated on this previously.  I'd cancel my account and come back at that time.  But as it is, I'm sticking around with this carrot in front of me and it's become clear it's a ruse.</div>

[Terabethia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> minionofdeath wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>Ok now I'm super depressed.  After reading that link you posted, every mention of Exile has to do with PvP and the creation of another faction.  Does this mean people on PvE don't get the betrayal and exile quest? <FONT color=#ff99ff> </FONT><FONT color=#33ccff>NO, it will be on both PvE and PvP. But, as they now have both, they have to do both.</FONT> Obviously this game change is alot more involved than previously posted. <FONT color=#33ccff>Well... yea. The first post mearly stated that they were doing it, not what was involved in it. </FONT> I'm sure that's why it's taking time.  Straight up matter of factly, my involvement with game ends if the high lvl betrayal quest does not appear on the PvE servers.  <FONT color=#33ccff>Calm down, it will....</FONT> I'll repeat what I said in a previous post.  SOE are stringing people along to maintain subscriptions.  MG stated before LU20, "We anticipate it will arrive in the next update or two after LU20. <FONT color=#ffff00><STRONG>That's subject to change, of course."</STRONG></FONT> <FONT color=#33ccff>See bright yellow bold statement. They are not stringing you along, they said it's subject to change. And it did.</FONT>  LU26/27 is not really the next update or two after LU20 is it.  Clearly things changed.  So how about some info stating that.  The last word we had from SOE was MG saying the quote above.  <BR><BR>I'm anxious to hear anything for two reasons.  One, I want to change classes.  Two, there is now class specific armor in game.  It doesn't make sense to acquire this, betray, then end up with armor you can't use and quests that cannot be repeated.  So naturally I held off on doing them.  <BR><BR>It's the not knowing that's making me annoyed.  If MG said this wouldn't be in game for several months, then I'd respect that more than what he stated on this previously.  I'd cancel my account and come back at that time.  But as it is, I'm sticking around with this carrot in front of me and it's become clear it's a ruse. <FONT color=#33ccff>I personally recommend that if you are not enjoying your character as the class you are currently playing, quit. Come back after the changes go live. They will sooner or later.</FONT> <BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#33ccff>We discussed this in many of the groups during Fan Faire. They ARE working on it. They ARE going to put it in. But, they want to A: Make sure that there are as few bugs as possible and B: That it will work for both the PvP and PvE enviroments. That is a huge balance that needs to be done. Plus, they are still working out some of the ideas for how to make changes in regards to spell, gear and so on. Just because they like an idea right now (such as all spells going back to app. 1) does not mean that once it's tested they won't find out that it really doesn't work.</FONT> <BR>

[minionofdeath]

All good points Terra.  I'm certainly aware of your comment in yellow.  MG replied to my original post on this subject.  Of course things change in the grand scheme of developing this game.  But usually in any project, there are updates given.  SOE doesn't communicate with this community in any rational sense.  They say something, it doesn't happen, we are then left wondering for months on end.<div></div>

[Trynnus1]

<DIV>Please consider the adventure pack due out in June/July - sounds like a forgotten city with it - this may be the location for the exile city - hence the betrayal link.</DIV> <DIV>I know I am stretching it but it sounds like 2 more months.</DIV>

[Koehianna]

<div><blockquote><hr>Trynnus1 wrote:<div>Please consider the adventure pack due out in June/July - sounds like a forgotten city with it - this may be the location for the exile city - hence the betrayal link.</div> <div>I know I am stretching it but it sounds like 2 more months.</div><hr></blockquote>I don't think they would make betrayal linked to an adventure pack in any way.  Adventure packs are optional purchases and most people would be very unhappy to have to buy an adventure pack to betray.</div>

[minionofdeath]

I wouldn't be surprised if betrayal is listed as an exciting new feature on the just announced new adventure pack.  Someone mentioned they thought this would be in game around LU26/7.  That's a few months off anyways.  At this point I have basically stopped carrying.  If it arrive in game and I'm still playing then /woot.<div></div>