shroud of darkness

[Sir Alex]

<div>anyone know how much of an int drop this item will get as i just got this robe the other day for my necro and loved the fact it had a +40 int buff to it, thats why i went after it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Eggman7777]

<div></div><img src="http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6176/darkness7vt.png">

[slyfer]

<div></div>Well that just Blows...

[Cecil_Stri]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><p>This is 100% bs...  The keeper robe is now better then the shroud of darkness</p><p> </p><p>Thought i would never say this.. cause i think its dumb when other people do....</p><p> </p><p>DO YOU GUYS PLAY THIS GAME!??!??!</p><p> </p><p>You have nerfed it to the point where TREASURED robes from sos is about as good......  The biggest problem about this robe was that it had no effect.... Which pretty much means every robe i have seen so far beats it</p><p> </p><p>What about the breast plate thats pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good for the plate people.. it drops MUCH more often (sometimes 2 per chest) and its still nice....  Should at least give me my keepers robe back so i can at least have a better one when you ruin this one</p><p>Not to even mention that the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] thing looks like rallosian gown... </p><p>Message Edited by Cecil_Strife on <span class="date_text">03-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:34 PM</span></p>

[eXperience25]

Why nerf it?? It wasnt overpowered because it has no proc.Btw, why was the mage wearable shield nerfed too? Bucklar of the Scholar or something,it was equipable by mages (really nice idea), then it was changed to priests only.eX

[On3iron]

<div>[Removed for Content]?!</div><div>You do realize that some of us paid close to 20pp to own this robe early on, and now you are making it close to useless??</div><div>I will be sending you reimbursement petitions everyday for the rest of my days if this one goes thru. Sometimes I wonder if you ppl do these things on purpose or if you are just mentaly challanged.</div>

[Boran]

Not only have they halfed the INT, they've halfed the STA too..something they neglected to mention in the update notes. Quit nerfing the hell out of mage drops (or any drops).As a previous poster has said I may as well go back to my keeper robe or my scaleborn robe.

[Cecil_Stri]

<div>What is so mind boggleing to me is how they could even consider nerfing it this much.  Int isn't that hard to get...  What is precious is procs on mage items.  So basicly lets break this down.  Now this item has 2 less int then keeper robe and no flowing thought. </div><div>The robe needs an effect...</div>

[Cecil_Stri]

<div></div><p>Here is the problem.</p><p>The way things worked it was great... You had to choose and make hard choice on what gear to wear.  You could wear the gown from egg and get its nice proc or get the 40 int.</p><p> </p><p>Now its just cut and dry... Mages don't get choices like this like the fighters do and you just took another away</p>

[Perfectio]

<div></div>First of all, if you payed 20pp for this robe ur not very smart since its so easy to get. Run the instance 3 times and you have. IF you werent good enought player to get it, maybe you just didnt deserve it? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Second, please dont tell me you didnt expect this robe to get nerfed! It was waay way overpowered when you think of risk vs. reward. Easy to get = not worthy of good reward.And.. Dont tell me I only say this because im not a mage. I also play a 69 warlock.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Perfection^ on <span class="date_text">03-17-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:59 AM</span></p>

[Ulrick85]

<div>Expected it to be changed yes...  but it is now worse then the t6 keepers robe, the only reason I bothered spending the time to get it, is because it was better.  Suppose they want us going after that robe that starts with an X .. so uh yeah.. we'll all look the same again...</div>

[On3iron]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Perfection^ wrote:<div></div>First of all, if you payed 20pp for this robe ur not very smart since its so easy to get. Run the instance 3 times and you have. IF you werent good enought player to get it, maybe you just didnt deserve it? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>Why don't you lay off the insults? I saw nothing in my post to warrant that kind of reply from you. Learn some manners.

[IllusiveThoughts]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>On3iron wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Perfection^ wrote:<div></div>First of all, if you payed 20pp for this robe ur not very smart since its so easy to get. Run the instance 3 times and you have. IF you werent good enought player to get it, maybe you just didnt deserve it? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>Why don't you lay off the insults? I saw nothing in my post to warrant that kind of reply from you. Learn some manners.<hr></blockquote>This robe seems to be better now compared to the red raimnet robe (no trade) that drops in hof that i won yesterday.  it has more resists, more mitigation, more power the same amount of int, and is equippable one level sooner.  ha.  well that sux for me.

[Norlantha]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Eggman7777 wrote:<div></div><img src="http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6176/darkness7vt.png"><hr></blockquote>that's so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing ghetto now.  I bought mine 3 weeks ago for 10pp now its not worth [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  GG SOE.

[Sir Alex]

<div></div>well i hope they allow us to unattune this piece of crap now so i can go back to my keepers robe with the flowing thought on it, and am reallt soory for all those who actuly spent the coin for it i was about to do the same thing but was lucky my guild went in there and we got it instead, this robe was harder to get than the one in the egg instance and that robe is a hell of alot better now after this change guess i'll be going for that now considering i had my chance at it once and give it up to a guildie for this robe, but once i get that sony will probably nerf that was well

[Ganlu]

If you notice though, they gave it health and power now, where before it didn't have any.  I didn't think the robe was all that great before because the INT cap is fairly easy to hit in a group, and it having no power actually lowered the total power I had.<div></div>

[AngelVyxen]

<div></div>Still a decent resist piece.

[RFMan]

I really hope they reconsider this nerf, but that's usually just a laughable idea.  I paid 10pp to get this robe, and I got a really good price.  I had no idea where it came from, so don't expect me to know that it was easy to get.  If anything, either nerf all robes that drop after the nerf and leave the old ones the same, or don't nerf it nearly so much.  23 int with an effect might be nice, but as it is, this is a piece of crap as far as legendary items go.<div></div>

[Norlantha]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>RFMan wrote:I really hope they reconsider this nerf, but that's usually just a laughable idea.  I paid 10pp to get this robe, and I got a really good price.  I had no idea where it came from, so don't expect me to know that it was easy to get.  If anything, either nerf all robes that drop after the nerf and leave the old ones the same, or don't nerf it nearly so much.  23 int with an effect might be nice, but as it is, this is a piece of crap as far as legendary items go.<div></div><hr></blockquote>which is why I am trying to get a Garb of souls lol.  same stats with the proc effect.  minus the resists though.  since I solo mostly this is a great item cause I am getting the kill shot in to proc the effect.

[Geoxam]

<div></div><p>I was SHOCKED when I saw the new stats on this robe.... 17 less int !!! That is crazy.</p><p>I chose this robe for more int vs one with a proc. I am in a semi-casual guild and this isn't "an easy item to get" (in fact I don't even know what zone it comes from). I payed close to 20p for it the only time I have seen it for sale, and leveled my [Removed for Content] off to wear it (got to see it's sad purple color for about 2hrs). Now it is worthless to me.</p><p>I am staging a "NO ROBE PROTEST" untill I see something happen. All of Norath and the Overrealm shall see Gnome Nipples as I fight topless in my newest robe [Emperor's New Robe].</p><p> </p><p>Gelidpyre -Antonicas Nameless-</p><p>66 wiz / 68 sage</p>

[Styk]

<div>That robe was nerfed because it was way to easy to attain for such a good item , I dont see why anyone would pay 20p for it ( then again making 20p in this expansion is easier nowadays then it was 6 months ago )</div><div> </div><div>I got mine thru adventuring and the only reason im keeping it is for the look ( yes i have 5 other robes and i love the looks on them )</div>

[TheBu]

<div><div>SOE nees a change control board!</div><div> </div><div>Almost half the int. Yo what do you think a mage is thinkin? SOE?</div><div>how do u think i feel? or the others. I love to see a response from soe.</div><div> </div><div>I have couple of robes tier 7 fable less int than ledgenday tier 6</div><div>yep ledgendary Tier 7  Shroud of Darkness  <- int lower than the lesser tier and not proc</div><div>and ledgendary Tier 6 Keepers robe.     <- has higher int and  Flowing thought</div><div> </div><div>some mages payed big Plat for the robe.</div><div>So questions that soe should ask is who does it effect?  The ones who sold the item? na..  they keep ther money.</div><div>So what about all the people who payed for the robe? Thos who deleted old robs?</div><div> </div><div><p>Live Update #21: March 23, 2006</p><p>- Shroud of Darkness now provides a lower INT bonus to better match the challenge needed to obtain it.</p><p>one of the strangest ring events i have seen. not the easiest thats for sure.</p><p> </p></div><div><blockquote><hr>Geoxam wrote:<div></div><p>I was SHOCKED when I saw the new stats on this robe.... 17 less int !!! That is crazy.</p><p>I chose this robe for more int vs one with a proc. I am in a semi-casual guild and this isn't "an easy item to get" (in fact I don't even know what zone it comes from). I payed close to 20p for it the only time I have seen it for sale, and leveled my [Removed for Content] off to wear it (got to see it's sad purple color for about 2hrs). Now it is worthless to me.</p><hr></blockquote>In a time that many mages are complaining about DPS tiers this is insane.</div><div>retro nurfs? is thats what it is called? the the eyestalks tier 7 treasured loot i had that went from 15g down to less the tier6 tresured loot.( with no pacth notes  aka STEALTH)</div><div> </div><div>soe can really make for an unhappy poor wizard.  With retro nurf and stealth updates. I dont know if i should buy anything.</div><div>so will the sun rise tomorow?</div><div> </div></div>

[CyStarX]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>RFMan wrote:I really hope they reconsider this nerf, but that's usually just a laughable idea.  I paid 10pp to get this robe, and I got a really good price.  I had no idea where it came from, so don't expect me to know that it was easy to get.  If anything, either nerf all robes that drop after the nerf and leave the old ones the same, or don't nerf it nearly so much.  23 int with an effect might be nice, but as it is, this is a piece of crap as far as legendary items go.<div></div><hr></blockquote>What's laughable is people paying 10-20p for this robe.  It wasn't rare.. drops all the time.  For those saying they had no way of knowing that.. lack of research or simply asking around (say, in the 60-70 channel) doesn't justify you complaining about it now.  The robe was crap before and it's even crappier now. 

[Jai1]

<div></div>I got this robe yesterday.  I can't compare it to what it was because I don't know.  I was excited because this was my first robe since 50. I was disappointed because it looks just like the one I had at 50.  Purple and yellow. They are going for about a plat on the broker.

[TheBu]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>CyStarX wrote:<div></div><blockquote>What's laughable is people paying 10-20p for this robe.  It wasn't rare.. drops all the time.  For those saying they had no way of knowing that.. lack of research or simply asking around (say, in the 60-70 channel) doesn't justify you complaining about it now.  The robe was crap before and it's even crappier now. <hr></blockquote></blockquote><div>the rob is and was legendary.I guess u check every item u buy? Some may buy items on the specs they see on the screen.</div><div>how does the chat go? </div><div>It drops all the time?  only off a name mob off a ring event in an instance with a lock out and no not all the time.</div><div> </div><div>This is an example of farming... someone else buying, then nurfing to the one who has the item.</div><div> </div><div>TheBuzz     a Wizard </div><div> </div>

[AngelVyxen]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>TheBuzZ wrote:<div>I guess u check every item u buy? Some may buy items on the specs they see on the screen.</div><div>how does the chat go? </div><div>It drops all the time?  only off a name mob off a ring event in an instance with a lock out and no not all the time.</div><div> </div><div>This is an example of farming... someone else buying, then nurfing to the one who has the item.</div><div> </div><div>TheBuzz     a Wizard </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>A less than one day lockout.. off an easy named.. and yeah about 50% of the time.  I would say 20p was a bit extreme for the robe even in its original form.  In reality though, this happens all the time, items' stats get changed - it sucks, but they won't do anything about it. 

[KBern]

<div></div><p>A good rule of thumb is never spend tons of plat on items the first month or so of an expansion.</p><p>Odds are it will  be changed, or it is much more common than you think so give it some time and that "rare" new item will flood the market fairly soon.</p>