Imbued rings (EQ2 Dev please read!)

[paradoxx]

<DIV>ok fair enough you screwed up and made the rings to good, and now your going to make them total worthless, thats fine BUT</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>...a lot of your PAYING costumers worked realy hard and spend a lot of time getting those rings after last update</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if your going to do that atleast set up a NPC that you can sell those useless rings back to and get your money/items back (as in when you sell the ring to the npc it works like a quest trigger and the npc will return a Rough Pearl and a Pristine Lambent Extract to you)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i know people thats consitering quitting this game because of this (the last drop that made the glass flow over, at some point everyone gets enough and stops enjoying them selfs), do your self a favor and realice that people only play this game because they wanna have fun and if you take away there fun they are gonna stop playing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(edit: made what i ment to say more clear.. i hope)</DIV> <DIV>(edit2: a message to all the people that complain about other people [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing about this,   if people dont [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] how do you expect SOE to know when they screw up if no one complains?)</DIV> <P>Message Edited by paradoxxdk on <SPAN class=date_text>02-09-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>01:52 PM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by paradoxxdk on <SPAN class=date_text>02-09-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>01:53 PM</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>Edit: Already a thread on this topic :</FONT></STRONG> <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=46795" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=46795</A></SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Moorgard on <span class=date_text>02-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:07 PM</span>

[Ari]

<div>Meh, if someone is going to quit over this they will quit over something else anyhow... The change sucks, yes.  But such is the nature of an ever-changing game.</div><div> </div><div>And lest you think I don't feel the pain... after LU19 I went out and bought 3 pearl INT rings.  Two for me and 1 for my buddy.  Total cost about 7.5 plat.  The purchases took my saved money to about 1p.  Go out and play the game a bit, you can pick up a half a plat easy in a night in DoF. </div><div> </div><div>How could SOE give us our plat back anyhow?  You didn't buy the rings from a NPC.  You bought them from a player.  The money is still out there so if they were to refund you (or me) then they just dup more money into the game.  Yah, it sucks.  Adapt.</div>

[D0Z3]

read yesterdays test server update. try to stay on top of that yet to see sommin hit test server that didnt hit live servers.<div></div>

[paradoxx]

<div>how could they give the money pack?</div><div> </div><div>EASY have the npc return the items used to craft the rings in the first place.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>SOE are the ones that screwed up, the players shouldn't have to pay for SOE's mistakes</div>

[Rhianni]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Ariis wrote:<div>Meh, if someone is going to quit over this they will quit over something else anyhow... The change sucks, yes.  But such is the nature of an ever-changing game.</div><div> </div><div>And lest you think I don't feel the pain... after LU19 I went out and bought 3 pearl INT rings.  Two for me and 1 for my buddy.  Total cost about 7.5 plat.  The purchases took my saved money to about 1p.  Go out and play the game a bit, you can pick up a half a plat easy in a night in DoF. </div><div> </div><div>How could SOE give us our plat back anyhow?  You didn't buy the rings from a NPC.  You bought them from a player.  The money is still out there so if they were to refund you (or me) then they just dup more money into the game.  Yah, it sucks.  Adapt.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Its not the ring or the money to me.  The bad part is in how quickly they changed their mind and changed this part of the game.  It comes across as them not testing or fully thinking through their changes before they put them into place.  Also consistency</p><p>The poets palace quest used to give out master spells.  They changed it for future rewards to be adepts but left the current ones in place.The T6 cobalt armor has been admitted to being to powerful but its in place and as stated by Moorguard (or blackguard, one of the guards). People are used to it and its in place. Would be too distruptive to change.Imbued rings were bad enough to need changing twice in two weeks and thats not disruptive? SOE needs to figure out what they are doing and stick to it. </p>

[Ari]

<div></div><blockquote><p></p><hr><p>Rhianni wrote:</p><p>Its not the ring or the money to me.  The bad part is in how quickly they changed their mind and changed this part of the game.  It comes across as them not testing or fully thinking through their changes before they put them into place.  Also consistency</p><p>The poets palace quest used to give out master spells.  They changed it for future rewards to be adepts but left the current ones in place.The T6 cobalt armor has been admitted to being to powerful but its in place and as stated by Moorguard (or blackguard, one of the guards). People are used to it and its in place. Would be too distruptive to change.Imbued rings were bad enough to need changing twice in two weeks and thats not disruptive? SOE needs to figure out what they are doing and stick to it. </p><hr></blockquote><p>I don't disagree with any of that.  I don't like the change and would *much* prefer that the rings stay as-is right now.</p><p>My post was aimed at (1) the threat made by the OP and (2) the ludicrous idea to give us money back. </p><p>Firstly, if someone is going to get [Removed for Content] and quit over this, chances are good they will find something else to get [Removed for Content] and quit about later.  Second, the money didn't leave the game, it was moved from Player A to Player B.  Refunding it by an NPC isn't reasonable.</p><p>A somewhat acceptable alternative that could be implemented would be to allow you to turn it in for the raw components, but that certainly won't please everyone.  It would however be better than being stuck with these rings that (IMO) will be total junk.</p><p>I'm not precisely defending what SOE is doing here.  It's pretty silly that they change them in LU19 and then again in LU20 (only weeks apart).  I thought the same thing about the Shady Alchemists.  They put them into the game in 1 patch and removed shards with the next patch.  The history seems to say they don't think that far into the future with certain additions / tweaks to the game.  Best to expect it, roll with it, and make the most of it.  If you spend your life angry about it, your going to be angry for as long as you play EQ2.</p><p>Oh, and krikee, I get really tired of all the whining and empty threats made on these boards.</p>