T2 rare inks no longer work and are useless!

[LordDragone]

<div></div><div></div><div>I play both test and live so thought this was best place to post this</div><div> </div><div>T2 Rare inks are unusable by alchemists to make spells. My Jewler can use it to make runes.</div><div>Even though we were told they would be usable in spells they are not in all crafting spells</div><div> </div><div>just thought you'd like to know</div><p>Message Edited by LordDragone on <span class="date_text">02-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:43 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by LordDragone on <span class="date_text">02-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:02 PM</span></p>

[Rhianni]

<div>Ummmm.  T2.  That level 11-20 right?  And no more subcombines has been the topic of debate for the past month on the test server right?</div>

[msheaf]

<div></div>As of tonights patch inks are supposed to be usable on test again. If I could get the patch to download I'll test it.

[masterche]

eh, all my tier 1 papers and quills dont work either.they should at least work for now... i got stacks of paper and quills. but they will goto waste.had to go out T1 harvesting again <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Calthine]

<div></div>Quills and paper are no suprise, but the inks are supposed to sub for raws.

[Zahmekos]

Didnt Beghn say something like that we could turn subs in and get at least the raws back ? Fairer  would be fuel cost and raw of course =)<div></div>

[Calthine]

<div></div><p>Well, he had a couple of ideas but hasn't settled on one yet.</p><p>You can always vendor-dump them for cash, if they aren't rare.</p>

[Jai1]

<div></div>This is what I'm afraid of.  A lot of crafters stock up on components to speed the finish up. I was wondering what would happen with all the components we have.  It's not like this is affecting me today but when the new system comes in, would it be best to use up all our stuff?  I have tons atm. 

[LordDragone]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Rhianni wrote:<div>Ummmm.  T2.  That level 11-20 right?  And no more subcombines has been the topic of debate for the past month on the test server right?</div><hr></blockquote><p>I see you also didn't bother reading the developers post during those testings when they said that ALL t1&2 rare inks would be usable by ALL crafters as raw components.</p><p>Go troll somewhere else</p>

[Maroger]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>LordDragone wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Rhianni wrote:<div>Ummmm.  T2.  That level 11-20 right?  And no more subcombines has been the topic of debate for the past month on the test server right?</div><hr></blockquote><p>I see you also didn't bother reading the developers post during those testings when they said that ALL t1&2 rare inks would be usable by ALL crafters as raw components.</p><p>Go troll somewhere else</p><hr></blockquote><p>What is even worse in the recipes for T1 Spell you can no longer use Copper Clusters, only Lapis and for T2 only Coral no more Silver. I think this is a major nerf for sages and scholars.</p><p>This never came up in Test and it should have. Beghn should have been more honest in explaining which raws would be usable in place of inks and he never said a word, but just nerfed us.</p>

[msheaf]

Actually the lack of copper/silver did come up in test.As of last nights test patch a t2 rare ink worked just fine to make a recipie. Didn't have any normal inks around to try one of those.<div></div>

[masterche]

ya whats up with that too.i noticed the copper clusters didnt work either.but since i only had 1, and i had mostly lapis i didnt really think about iti was more erked about my stacks of quills and papers that are going to waste.the thing is, the broker is dry of normal roots and elm. and i've always had trouble harvesting T1 stuff.. since the zones are so small.and the few roots and elm that do show up are like 10-20silver each.and im lucky if i get 24 copper for a pristine dandy elm quill.not to mention i need 2 wood now <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />the crafting change on the lowbie stuff may have gotten more simple, but it sure does drain your raws.PS why not set up a special merchant, that you can sell your made useless subcomponents to, and he will give you 90% the coin the whole saler would pay, but also give your raw back. so i take take him all my quills and get wood back and a little coin.same with my papers for roots.<div></div>

[Maroger]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>msheaf1 wrote:Actually the lack of copper/silver did come up in test.As of last nights test patch a t2 rare ink worked just fine to make a recipie. Didn't have any normal inks around to try one of those.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>I don't remember it coming up -- what was said? I am more concerned about the material to make T2 Adepet spells. Lately I have been harvesting more silver than Coral and it looks like I can no longer make my Adept III spells because of this change.</p><p>I consider this a big NERF and I think Beghn needs to get busy and fix it. -- we should be able to use the same raws as we used to make inks -- as it is our chances of getting components for Adept III spells has been reduced -- I wonder if that was their real intention.!!!</p>

[msheaf]

It was mentioned by the players there that only coral was usable for t2 and that copper has no use at all. I don't now if the devs every said anything though if that is what you are looking for.<div></div>

[Rijacki]

At least Sages and Jewelers can use a harvest that existed before in the crafting of their appIVs as well as adeptIIIs.  Alchemists have to use a new harvest that never existed before... -and- bug or not, essences when the LU went live don't use -any- ink only the brand new, never existed before harvests.<div></div>

[masterche]

there is a work around for people not being able to use the copper/silver clusters.You have to go back and make the ink. and since the inks should still work.. its what i did.Im buying silver for dirt cheap now that coral is the only one used. and i've been making the surzuri ink out of the much cheaper silver.(Ps my server, coral is upwards of 30g, where silver is around 10)It takes longer to craft, but its 20gold cheaper... so 20g savings for 2 extra minutes of crafting<div></div>

[Moriga]

<div></div><p>Rare ink worked for me making a T2 adept spell, however it still took like 12 fuel to make the spell. Nasty cost on these for anyone actually at T2 level and no way to give anyone a fair estimate of cost to make them an adept.</p><p>Morgaine 60 sage</p>