Any Chance Of A Few More Character Slots Please?

[kitcabood]

<div>Apologies if this is in the wrong forum - only I had a quick search and a look around and it seemed like the best fit at the time!</div><div> </div><div>Anyway - with all the up-coming changes & the new PVP servers, etc. the system seems to be giving rather a hard choice to those who have already been playing for a while and built up characters.  If we want to explore the new systems and see what they could mean to us, then we need to sacrifice characters that we've already put a lot of time and effort into in order to do so, whereas new players can try out everything without having much to lose other than a few hours play time.</div><div> </div><div>With this in mind, I just wondered whether anyone knew if there were any plans to increase the number of character slots? </div><div> </div><div>I realise that there are probably business reasons for capping them at 6 for regular players - but personally I think the increased draw to potential players of having a larger list of characters would outweigh the potential loss of those paying for second accounts.  I've certainly heard the greater availability of character slots in other games given to me by a few people as a selling point that made them go for that game.</div><div> </div><div>I may be mistaken but I understand that *cough* the other game *cough* for example, has more character slots than we currently have in EQII and, if part of the business plan is to lure their dis-enchanted players to this game, then to offer them substantially less choice in that respect seems like the loss of a good oportunity.</div><div> </div><div>Also, now tradeskills are no longer inter-dependent, pretty-pretty please, can I have at least enough character slots to have one of each type? :smileywink:</div><div> </div><div>What do the rest of you think?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Kitcaboodle</div><div>Splitpaw</div>

[Flor]

<div></div><p>I agree 100% with this.   I really don't want to spend $21/month for the Station Pass since I wouldn't use all the features.  It's not a question of money really.  I just don't like paying for something that I wouldn't use such as a subscription to SWG or Planetside.  I would however love to see perhaps an additional character slot given to people who purchase the upcoming expansion pack.  Heck, I would even pay $1 extra a month for an additional character slot.   Let people purchase extra character slots for a certain amount.  I would certainly take advantage of this to just have another character or two without all the bells and whistles of a full blown Station Pass.</p><p>I think that with so many good things coming up such as PvP, it is really unfair to make people delete a character that they've invested time in so they play on new servers or experience content with another class.</p><p>Since you mentioned "the other game,"  I must comment.  I loved WoW from that standpoint of having so many characters available.   I always loved rolling up another character to experience new areas, the horde side, etc.  I tend to have quite a bit of altitus in games and having all these character options kept my interest for quite some time.  I've always felt that SOE has been a bit stingy with the amount of character slots they've made available.  If I remember SWG correctly from my short time there, having just one character per server drove me nuts when I played it. </p><p>Please SOE.  Consider throwing us all a bone and increasing the number of character slots.  I would love to try out some more of the mage classes but I can't because I have absolutely capped out.  Since all of my characters are either level 30+ adventurers or crafters, getting rid of any one character is a significant emotional event for me.  The more characters to dabble with keeps my interest for a much longer time.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Keyh]

Or like someone else said earlier, make it a "Veteran Reward". The people that got the game first day and got the expansion are coming up on their 18 month reward soon, you could put it to that. Granted, people who have been playing for 7-8 months will complain though...<div></div>

[Flor]

<div></div><p>The veteran reward is a great  idea too.  But heck, at least give me the option of purchasing an extra slot as well.   I would pull out my credit card and edit my account immediately if I got the option of "buying" an extra slot.  I just don't want to upgrade to the Station Pass.  Kinda like why I canceled HBO/Showtime.  Although money is not the issue, I don't want to pay for something that I never use.</p><p>Can any developers weigh in on this please?</p>

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

<div>I have all 6 of my character slots filled with over level 20 characters, so if I want to try out this new lower level advancement (apart from on test) then I need to delete one of these characters.  So yes I want more slots.</div><div> </div><div>HOWEVER, this issue is going to come up a lot.  Servers with new rulessets, new races, new classes, new starting towns ... all of these which may or may not come in the future will make people want to roll a low level characters again.   I don't think they will give us new slots every time this happens.</div>

[Magu]

So you will pay for more character slots, but you won't upgrade to station pass to get more slots?Uh..... yah, that's great logic.<div></div>

[Rijacki]

If the PvP servers are on the same server layout as the European, Exchange, and Test are now (different code bases), you might be able to have an additional 6 completely brand new and 100% seperate characters there.Current Maximum Number of Characters per Account (non-Station):Standard: 6Test: 6Exhange: 6English speaking European: 6French and German: 6total: 30(with Station, add +4 to each for 50 total)<div></div>

[Chukkl]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Magus` wrote:So you will pay for more character slots, but you won't upgrade to station pass to get more slots?Uh..... yah, that's great logic.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Station access is 9 bucks a month more for 4 character slots. Why is it faulty logic to not want to pay that much more than the standard monthly fee for another character slot or two? Access grants a wide variety of things, none of which the above poster specified was useful to them other than the 4 additional character slots.</p>

[Flor]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Magus` wrote:So you will pay for more character slots, but you won't upgrade to station pass to get more slots?Uh..... yah, that's great logic.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Please read before you post and flame. It will do you good.</p><p>To clarify,   I <u><strong>DO NOT</strong> </u>want the full $21/month Station Pass.  I will never use all the features that come with a Station Pass.  I merely would like the option of purchasing additional character slots as a cost below the full blown Station Pass.  For example being able to purchase an additional character slot for a buck or so.  So instead of $14.99, it is $15.99 for example.   As I've said before, it's not about the money.  I can afford the $21/month.  I just don't want to buy an upgrade such as the Station Pass and never use it.</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Magu]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Chukklez wrote:<blockquote><hr>Magus` wrote:So you will pay for more character slots, but you won't upgrade to station pass to get more slots?Uh..... yah, that's great logic.<hr></blockquote><p>Station access is 9 bucks a month more for 4 character slots. Why is it faulty logic to not want to pay that much more than the standard monthly fee for another character slot or two? Access grants a wide variety of things, none of which the above poster specified was useful to them other than the 4 additional character slots.</p><hr></blockquote>21 - 15 = 6</span><span><blockquote><hr>Floria wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Magus` wrote:So you will pay for more character slots, but you won't upgrade to station pass to get more slots?Uh..... yah, that's great logic.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Please read before you post and flame. It will do you good.</p><p>To clarify,   I <u><strong>DO NOT</strong> </u>want the full $21/month Station Pass.  I will never use all the features that come with a Station Pass.  I merely would like the option of purchasing additional character slots as a cost below the full blown Station Pass.  For example being able to purchase an additional character slot for a buck or so.  So instead of $14.99, it is $15.99 for example.   As I've said before, it's not about the money.  I can afford the $21/month.  I just don't want to buy an upgrade such as the Station Pass and never use it.</p><hr></blockquote>So ignore the other features. You get 4 character slots for $6, which is a mere $1.50 a slot. Only 50 cents more then what you suggest, yet you won't do it?</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Magus` on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:46 AM</span></p>

[Flor]

<div></div><p>But Magus', you miss my point.  I don't want 4 additional slots.  I could do with one more bringing my total up to 7 characters.  I would be a happy camper.   Just one more little character I can play around with, check out the newbie areas, etc. Perhaps make one more crafter.  10 slots are a bit too much for me.  6 are not enough.  As I've mentioned before, it's not the money.  I hate playing for the deluxe model of anything if I'm not going to use all the features.  All I want is an option to purchase an additional slot or two.   Why pay $9 more if I'm not going to use all the character slots or the features of a Station Pass?  How about some happy middle ground.  I think that my idea could also bring SOE some more money as well with players like myself who want something more than the basic subscription but not the full blown one.  It's almost like buying a car....:smileywink:</p><p>All I'm asking for is either for SOE to throw us a bone and give us additional slot(s) or for the option to do a purchase a partial upgrade.  Heck, if I slowly expanded into 10 characters, then I would happily buy the whole blown Station Access without another peep from me. </p>

[ISeeker]

<div></div><p>I am in the same boat as some of you that have all 6 chars over 20..</p><p>I don't want to have to delete any of my characters to try out some of the LU19 newbie zone stuff.</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Magu]

If all you want is to try out the newbie zone stuff, use the Test server. It's a free 6 slots.<div></div>

[SweetiePie]

<div></div><p>I have the 10 char slots and would love to have more people because I won't delete any to check out the new isle fun.</p><p>I'd like to try out all the classes and races.</p><p>:smileyhappy:</p><p>Linnette</p>

[Heattanu]

<div></div><div></div>In EQ1 they allow 8 charaters <strong><u>per server</u></strong>. I think this is a reasonable approach. If servers with new rulesets are opened then you can try them out. If friends start playing on another server, then you can join them there without paying transfer fees. It also lets you check out what the community/population is like on another server before deciding whether or not to transfer. I keep one character slot free for experimentation, but I have 10 slots thru Station Access. 10 slots still feels limiting sometimes, even tho I don't really have time to play all those characters.<p>Message Edited by Heattanu on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:56 AM</span></p>

[Flor]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Heattanu wrote:<div></div>In EQ1 they allow 8 charaters <strong><u>per server</u></strong>. I think this is a reasonable approach. If servers with new rulesets are opened then you can try them out. If friends start playing on another server, then you can join them there without paying transfer fees.<hr></blockquote><p>SOE would have my undying love if we had 8 characters per server for EQ2.  That would be absolutely great.  I could only wish........:womanvery-happy:</p><p>Has any developer addressed the number of character slots issue? </p>

[Teil]

<div>I do agree with this post. I had the all access pass but since then I have quit planetside and so let my pass expire.  I had 8 slots used up and now that the pass has gone away I have 2 characters in a SOE limbo.  not sure if i will get them back if I reupgrade or not. The only thing i miss is the extra slots and well split paw but i can buy that expansion pack.</div>

[Rijacki]

<span><blockquote><hr>Floria wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Heattanu wrote:<div></div>In EQ1 they allow 8 charaters <strong><u>per server</u></strong>. I think this is a reasonable approach. If servers with new rulesets are opened then you can try them out. If friends start playing on another server, then you can join them there without paying transfer fees.<hr></blockquote><p>SOE would have my undying love if we had 8 characters per server for EQ2.  That would be absolutely great.  I could only wish........:womanvery-happy:</p><p>Has any developer addressed the number of character slots issue?</p><hr></blockquote>There were also perpetual database issues with allowing so many different characters, most of which were idle 99% of the time.</span><div></div>

[Slingsun]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Rijacki wrote:<span><strong><u>There were also perpetual database issues with allowing so many different characters, most of which were idle 99% of the time.</u></strong></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>This Statement "does not hold water" in light of the fact that larger (the unnamed game) and smaller MMO's don't seem to have an issue with more character's per account and on multiple servers.<p>Message Edited by Slingsun on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:24 AM</span></p>

[Rijacki]

<span><blockquote><hr>Slingsun wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Rijacki wrote:<span><strong><u>There were also perpetual database issues with allowing so many different characters, most of which were idle 99% of the time.</u></strong></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>This Statement "doest hold water" in light of the fact that larger (the unnamed game) and smaller MMO's don't seem to have an issue with more character's per account and on multiple servers.<hr></blockquote>And are also not as complex nor do they allow player housing.</span><div></div>

[kitcabood]

<div></div><p>Hm.  Magus - don't quite agree with your logic but I guess you're entitled to your opinion, just as we are entitled to ours!  I don't quite understand why you're so against the idea though, even if you feel that the current system provides you with everything you could wish for.  Other people feel differently & as is indicated by some of the points - are frustrated by the limits on characters & would find the idea of more characters enticing.  If the system changed in a way that would appeal to many others, it wouldn't be taking anything that I can see away from you.</p><p>I can appreciate Rijacki's point about potential problems with the database.  However, surely the game is set up to be able to handle many more customers than it currently has (with the long term business plan in mind) and so I would imagine that there must be the ability to sort out storage for a larger number of characters out there somewhere, even if it means potentially buying in a bit more hardware to cope with it.  After all, I expect that the current system could cope with the current demand & if demand grows then that indicates that business is picking up - possibly as a result - in which case the investment would be justified, if it wasn't, it wouldn't be necessary.</p><p>On the subject of idle/un-used characters, maybe it is possible to set up some kind of an archive system - whereby, if you haven't used a character for a certain period of time, say three months, it goes into a different storage area.  It might take a bit longer when you first accecss that toon again & pull it back to the main storage area - but I'm sure people would understand that if the date for going into storage was reasonable.  Like archived mail taking a little longer to load (well, in our office anyway!)  That would take the weight off the main database.</p><p>Kitcaboodle</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Fuzzey]

<div></div><p>I have to agree that the option to buy more character slots. Some people say to just get the Station Pass and have more slots that way. That's not a feasible option for those of us who aren't in America and can't get access to Station Pass.</p><p>Tag, you're It <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sakar]

<div></div><p>I agree totally with the more characters slots without having to buy the Stationpass.  SOE is a business and this gives the customer more options to select from.  The customer is always happy with more options aren't they?</p><p>Not sure either why Magnus is dead set against this either.  Some people don't need all the bells and whistles of a full access pass.  As other posters said, for some of it it's not the money.  Why pay for something that you don't use.</p><p> </p>

[Dalick]

<div></div><p>Hehe I knew it would not be long before this subject came up again. It was the hot topic all throu beta when you had "4" slots. And after when they boosted it to 6. It was quite heated when All Access got an extra 4 slots. People said it wasnt fair that some could "Pay" to get "More" than others.</p><p>Well here we are on our second expantion it was about that time to start this again.</p><p> </p><p>Personaly I am an alt-aholic. In EQ 1 I had over 80 played alts across 10 servers, and I played them ALL on rotaion between raids each week. In EQ 2 I have now 8 chars. 7 crafters 6 in the 50+ range. I would love to see more char slots hehe I never get enough. Do I think they will do it? Not with out a LARGE number of screams! The detabase that this game must run on a daly basis must boggle the mind to keep up with. Its not as simple as it was in EQ 1 when speaking of info that the game needs to track. Player housing alone would make it so that some kind of cap had to be in place.</p><p>So for what its worth I will put my vote on yes more slots!</p><p> </p><p>( Dont expect too much though <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Flor]

<div></div>Glad to see that people have the same altitus problem that I do.  Hope this topic keeps bumped to the top and that a developer weighs in on this at some point.  At least give us one more character slot SOE, pretty please?   Please, please.   You have a great game that many of us will be playing for a long time.  I already am seeing an influx of new players on our server.  Giving us an additional character slot would be just great and make your already happy paying customers even happier.  (Shameless plug I know......:smileywink<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Deadly Nightshadow]

<div></div><p>Yeah, 6 slots is like a carrot on a stick......nearly enough but not quite. What would be really nice (even though I can't see it happening) would be a slot for each class. That way everyone would be perfectly happy.</p><p> </p><p>On a more realistic note, though, I think that 8 slots would do for me. Maybe the station pass people could get their slots increased to 12?</p>

[Savanja]

I could go for more char slots.  I'm too alt happy.  Must..have..another..alt...<div></div>

[secretlond]

If Station Access took Global Connect, rather than just Credit Cards I'd upgrade. As you won't take my UK debit card I'm stuck with 6 slots..<div></div>

[Chate]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Slingsun wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Rijacki wrote:<span><strong><u>There were also perpetual database issues with allowing so many different characters, most of which were idle 99% of the time.</u></strong></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>This Statement "doest hold water" in light of the fact that larger (the unnamed game) and smaller MMO's don't seem to have an issue with more character's per account and on multiple servers.<hr></blockquote>And are also not as complex nor do they allow player housing.<div></div><p></p><div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.eq2alchemy.com/"><font color="#c8c1b5">http://www.eq2alchemy.com</font></a><a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=109029104"><img src="http://www.eq2alchemy.com/rijacki/ToR.jpg" alt="Rijacki: Elephants really are combustible."></a></div>You are so wrong ... take Dark Ages Of Camelot for example ... you get 10 chars per server .... and they have housing ...</div>

[melaine_dvarvensplitter]

<div></div>I am an alt aholic and I feel that 2 more slots would be just right. More would be better but 2 would keep me happy for sometime<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />M.