Testing Server (Revisted) Improvement Needed

[Zhonata]

<DIV><FONT size=1>Ok, I already posted a topic on this. My idea then was that testing server needed to have "character coping" that was shot down faster than the Wright brothers flying over japan in the midst of WW2. Then i sujested another server for copying character over to allow for farther testing of class balancing, graphic gliches, and pathing problems. That was consider unrealistic cause it would drain the live server population. Now I sit here wonder what can be done. Make no mistake <STRONG>Something</STRONG> needs to be done. As much as the test server is an aset and all the hard work that the players / devs put into it. Simply put their is not enough people all around ( players and devs included) to fix all the problems. The test server is vital for fixing server stabilty and gliches. the apparent leakage of small thing that do matter to the population is becoming bigger and bigger.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These are just a small example of simple issues that should have already been addressed before the patch was even close to coming out on live:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>SOGA model issues see the thread:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=31288" target=_blank><FONT size=2>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=31288</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Falling through the world bug see this thread:</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=zonepop&message.id=27603" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=zonepop&message.id=27603</A></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Respect stone broken see this thread:</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67594#M67594" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67594#M67594</A></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Unintentional nerf to stuns/mezzes/roots see this thread:</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67540" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67540</A></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Griffon tower quests crashing entire server see this thread:</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=events&message.id=4394#M4394" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=events&message.id=4394#M4394</A></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3><STRONG>Ghost type monsters Flying see this thread:</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=zonepop&message.id=27594" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=zonepop&message.id=27594</A></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>Vita bonus issue see this thread:</STRONG> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=cs&message.id=59#M59" target=_blank><FONT size=2>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=cs&message.id=59#M59</FONT></A><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=50738#M50738" target=_blank></A></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3><STRONG>Plate armor gaudyness see this thread:</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=50738#M50738" target=_blank><FONT size=2>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=50738#M50738</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Ranger abilty Bugged with quivers see this thread:</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67535" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=67535</A></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3><STRONG>Beserker abilty not working correctly see this thread:</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=16823" target=_blank><FONT size=2>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=16823</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT size=1>*I want to just note that i have never see one beserker from test post on the beserker forums for us <STRONG>EVER or at least one claiming to be on test</STRONG>. Leads us to wander if their are even beserkers able to test these patches at a high level. Not to mention the beserkers have been completly ignore for the past week by the devs. The guardians got a nice " were thinking of you post" and that was it. Somthing need to change / be fixed and it is not just the game.</FONT></EM></DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV></DIV> <DIV>I am sure that this is only the tip of the Iceberg because the patch has only been out for like 3 hours. Im sure more will roll in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These are all things that would have easily been fixed if their were more people to notice them. You may say they were reported. Fine why are they not fixed on patch release. These are simple face lift if you will in the grand scheme of the game after all that has been done and yet they find their way into live.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bottum line their need to be another step in the test process otehr than live</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Test-------- Something------- <STRONG>LIVE</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>If this requires SOE to hire more people then for the player bases happiness you need to.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>I have decided to keep a running tali of things that have "slipped" past the test server into the live server.</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV>Perhaps if all of these bugs/gliches/and unforseen issues are put in one palce some people will be forced to reconize the problems and address it. At the very least the Dev's might see and issue they are overlooking</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is ment to be constructive critisisim. Hince the vagueness of my post not pointing finger specifically at any one person.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:17 PM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:52 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:52 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:54 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:05 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:08 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:19 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:26 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Zhonata on <SPAN class=date_text>11-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:33 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Zhonata on <span class=date_text>11-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:01 AM</span>

[g0thiC_iCe_cReaM]

keep in mind about the armor link you posted that the poster had put screen shots up at low quality graphic settings, the armor looks pretty good at balanced and high quality...

[Heiro]

<DIV>Extreme Quality images of Ebon and Cobolt are posted in the Armorers section...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Vitality issue has been reported numerous times, and been verifed numerous times in the past few weeks on Test server...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Berserker posts you wish to see .. probably dont exist outside of the Testers Only Forums, if even there, for a number of reasons... Noise to Constructive posts being the primary one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There are a number of Zerks on Test .. and they do feedback / report quite often.. just not to you, but rather directly to the QA presence that exists on Test.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And the main reason alot of Live Only people dont see anything coming from the test boards, is that for every informative post, there are 50+ inane replies which sort of negates the value of the original post.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Zhonata]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Heiro wrote:<BR> <DIV>Extreme Quality images of Ebon and Cobolt are posted in the Armorers section...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Vitality issue has been reported numerous times, and been verifed numerous times in the past few weeks on Test server...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>And yest they are in live.... then apparently they need to hire more people.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Berserker posts you wish to see .. probably dont exist outside of the Testers Only Forums, if even there, for a number of reasons... Noise to Constructive posts being the primary one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>Would be nice if some of these fellow beserker would jump over to our forums and give us some update on hwo things will work out. Half of all the worry and whining in this game could be cut out of we were kept better informed. God i hate whining,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There are a number of Zerks on Test .. and they do feedback / report quite often.. just not to you, but rather directly to the QA presence that exists on Test.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>Then perhaps the dev shouldnt ignore us so much and fill us in on some of these feedback and reports.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And the main reason alot of Live Only people dont see anything coming from the test boards, is that for every informative post, there are 50+ inane replies which sort of negates the value of the original post.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>Granted this is absolutly true, but as Lockeye demenstrated very admirably that even if we dont like the reasons. We are alot more likly to accept it than if we are ignored like a like child. We have had several post that were very polite, considerate, and well written simply asking " why" and yet we were ignored. Since we never see any beserker in the forums from test and the dev refused to answer our request we can only assume they are throwing blind well thought out untest nerfs our way. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Aside from that i would like to adress the other issues. If these things are being reported on test and nto fixed SOE need to do something cause it is one thing for something to slip past you it is anotehr thing to ignore  it or not have the capacity to fix it. Either way the player base is goign to looks down apon it. You need to come up with a new system or hire more people to effectivly utilize the one you have.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>" I'd rather have 10 workers and only need 5 than 5 workers and need 10."</DIV>

[Zhonata]

Im goign to continue update the glitches and mess ups that have made it past the test server to further prove my point as they come in.

[Kuulei]

<P>Searching over the private former, active testing with QA, private forum on eq2test.com...</P> <P>These issues have been /bugged, /feedback, in-game mail and many tested and verified not just by the players (we extensively test the griffon towers, crashing the zones over and over and it was fixed on test prior to your live update)</P> <P>What SOE patches to live after fixes, has nothing to do with our population, levels, etc.  The last patch to Test took place less than 12 hours before live?   Test had nothing to /claim until the same day as they patched Live servers and guess what we have the same bugs with items not working that we /claimed!:smileyindifferent:  I don't see any links there about shared bank items poofing when one altered current characters using SOGA models, at least that bug didn't make it over!:smileysurprised:</P> <P>We do our best!  Want to help?  We will gladly welcome anyone that would like to start a character on test:smileyhappy:  You don't need to be level 50, 55, 60 to test every bug thread you just listed above, imagine that!</P>

[Zhonata]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kuulei wrote:<BR> <P>Searching over the private former, active testing with QA, private forum on eq2test.com...</P> <P>These issues have been /bugged, /feedback, in-game mail and many tested and verified not just by the players (we extensively test the griffon towers, crashing the zones over and over and it was fixed on test prior to your live update)</P> <P>What SOE patches to live after fixes, has nothing to do with our population, levels, etc.  The last patch to Test took place less than 12 hours before live?   Test had nothing to /claim until the same day as they patched Live servers and guess what we have the same bugs with items not working that we /claimed!:smileyindifferent:  I don't see any links there about shared bank items poofing when one altered current characters using SOGA models, at least that bug didn't make it over!:smileysurprised:</P> <P>We do our best!  Want to help?  We will gladly welcome anyone that would like to start a character on test:smileyhappy:  You don't need to be level 50, 55, 60 to test every bug thread you just listed above, imagine that!</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I guess i should state that while thier  great deal of bugs/gliches/and unintended result that do make it to the live server i am sure their are 10 tiems that amount that have been caught and fixed via the playerbase and devs. AS i said if the issue is not that these bugs are found out about and that they are not gettign fixed then the blame will fall else wear. As i have said before i dont intend to take anything away from the test community, but perhaps another line of defense (less secluded than test) in the test line coupled with soe shellling out a few more people to help can possible prevent the onslaught of gliches and bugs that happen every LU. Like i stated in the last post not everyone has the time to spend playing on to server fulltime. I lvl very slowly as it is and play with my friends and family.</P> <P>While test does catch a great deal of these bugs the amount that are making it to live is quite ridiculious. One expects their to be surface glitches something that could have easyily been overlooked unlike every vanguard wearing chacter lookling like a power ranger. Just one small example. Im going to continue putting these these bugs/glitches here in hopes that SOE will reconize the problem and fix it. At the very least they will perhaps see a thread the are overlooking.</P> <P>Sound to me like SOE is understaffed :smileyindifferent:</P> <P>Unfortunaly if this is the case then SOE is hurting their game by not taking more intrest in hiring more people. LU's should not = glitch day.</P> <P><BR></P>