ranger CA bug need to be fix pls

[ZababEW]

<DIV> <DIV>Not sure if many other ranger seen that bug but for me is very annoying,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- if i use stream of arrows and i cancel it , when i use something who stealth me i auto appear, sometime it auto appear for 3 min and sometime for 30 sec not sure what is the cause of that.</DIV> <DIV>- another one the thorny trap at lvl 52 u put it on ground and is jsut desapear.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thx</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV>

[Ranja]

huh? plz explain a little better.

[AfflictedOne]

Actually this is a very annoying bug. Seems to be related to stream of arrows. What happens is when you cancel stream of arrows early you then can't go into stealth mode.  You'll go into stealth but it will immediately break.  The time this lasts seems to vary and it doesn't happen every time.  When this is happening you can't get off any stealth based attacks. <div></div>

[SavinDwa]

I don't think its just caused by stream of arrows.  Butb there is definately a bug that causes a ranger to be unable to go into stealth and its very verry annoying.

[Autenil-EQ2]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SavinDwarf wrote:<BR>I don't think its just caused by stream of arrows.  Butb there is definately a bug that causes a ranger to be unable to go into stealth and its very verry annoying. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll look into this if we can get some more information about it.  A few questions:</P> <P>Do you notice it when grouping or when solo?<BR>Is it immediately after using a certain combat art?<BR>What is your typical attack pattern?<BR>What kind of mobs are you fighting?<BR>What level & class are you?</P> <P>Thanks</P>

[Kalel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Autenil wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SavinDwarf wrote:<BR>I don't think its just caused by stream of arrows.  Butb there is definately a bug that causes a ranger to be unable to go into stealth and its very verry annoying. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll look into this if we can get some more information about it.  A few questions:</P> <P>Do you notice it when grouping or when solo?<BR>Is it immediately after using a certain combat art?<BR>What is your typical attack pattern?<BR>What kind of mobs are you fighting?<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>What level & <STRONG><EM><FONT size=4>class are you</FONT></EM></STRONG>?</FONT></P> <P>Thanks</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A senior programmer that doesnt know what a ranger is?</DIV>

[ZababEW]

<P><STRONG>Do you notice it when grouping or when solo?</STRONG></P> <P>-Both</P> <P><BR><STRONG>Is it immediately after using a certain combat art?</STRONG></P> <P>-always when we use stream of arrow and cancel it early</P> <P><BR><STRONG>What is your typical attack pattern?</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>-</STRONG> for exemple it always happen when: target mob X, use stream of arrow then 8 sec after is dead i push stream of arrow to cancel it or rightclick icon and cancel icon, after canceled stream of arrow i can now move or cast, after i use sneak and i auto appear, sneak auto cancel.</P> <P>What kind of mobs are you fighting?</P> <P>-all type of mob do that: from a melee only mob to a caster mob solo to heroic</P> <P><BR><STRONG>What level & class are you?</STRONG></P> <P>- Atm im lvl 59 ranger and it do that bug until i got the spell at lvl 55</P> <P> </P>

[TunaBoo]

I know as a side note paladins sometimes bug group invis.. soon as they leave it works again for the rest. <div></div>

[Autenil-EQ2]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kalel22 wrote:<BR> <DIV>....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A senior programmer that doesnt know what a ranger is?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>The thinking was that this might be a problem that isn't limited to Rangers only.  Several classes have stealth and invisibility.  So if it's just Rangers or all scout professions, that's a good sized piece of the puzzle.  But it could be mages, druids or any other profession with an invisibility spell too.<BR>

[Feaw]

<DIV>Glad its being looked into :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Feawin on <SPAN class=date_text>10-31-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>09:55 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Feawin on <span class=date_text>10-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:55 PM</span>

[Calthine]

I was having problems with Walk Lightly cancelling on me last night, I'd stand up and be visible but the button is still greyed and the icon is up.  Oddly enough, I was with a Ranger.  Hmm..  more study is required.

[SaintPet]

<P>I've noticed this bug too.  Huge pain in the butt.</P> <P>It seems to be related to casting your normal stealth when using attacks/specials that put you into stealth.  For example, if you use the attack that ends in a stealth, then you use your normal stealth on top of it.  I've stopped stealthing on top of stealths and I almost never have the problem anymore.</P> <P>It may be related to having your stealth(s) broken by an attack.  IE:  Have normal stealth on top of mini-stealth and then an AOE breaks it.  From that point on, you can click on your normal stealth and it will show "queued", but never cast.  It doesn't happen 100% of time time, though, and I've never set out to deliberatly TRY and break it.</P> <P>Note that ANY spell that puts you into stealth can have this happen to it.  I suspect what is happening is that the "stealth bit" for both spells is not cleared properly if they are stacked and broken by an attack.  Only one will have the stealth bit cleared and the other will still have it set, so it "thinks" you are in stealth and won't try and put you in.</P>

[Xery]

I've also gotten the bug with Walk Lightly, but very very infrequently.  While checking into this bug, would it be possible to also look into doing something about sneak breaking for bards during combat?  If we have mana song on (or several other buffs really) we will lose sneak when it ticks or procs for someone else in the group - very annoying and sometimes dangerous. <div></div>

[draconetti]

not sure if this is linked, but stealth bugs for every ranger on live that uses a stealthing skill in a heroic opportunity, the skill will go to queued action but will sit at queued. only fix currently is relogging - poss linked, poss not <div></div>

[DonSavan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kalel22 wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>....</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A senior programmer that doesnt know what a ranger is?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>................</P> <P>499 posts....are you an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in all of them?<BR></P>

[SavinDwa]

<P>Autenil,</P> <P>In my case its happing mainly with flurry of arrows.  I have a level 48 Ranger this is happening with.  But I think the general series of events that causes it to happen the most often is:</P> <P>1) Put up a combat stance.</P> <P>2) Go in to combat and start using CAs.</P> <P>3) Someone starts an HO and one of the flashing Icons is the Combat Stance.  Its a fast spell so push it.</P> <P>I don't know if this causes the effect 100% of the time, but it certainly seems to be one of the most common series of events before being unable to go back into stealth.</P> <P> </P> <P>I rarely play solo and am normally in a group.  The most frequest of the HOs is Mage Scout.  I have seen this happen to me three times.  Once attacking pirates in the Sinking Sands in the pirates cave and twice attacking Spectres in the same zone.  I never saw this issue before about 4-5 weeks ago.</P> <P>Since this hass always happened during combat I have not had a chance to really see what was going on, but when I do Hunt its as ifb the CA cancelled because I can immediately hit it again and have nothing happen.  Normally it takes a second to cast and there is about a 5 sec recast on it (I think?)</P>

[MeridianR]

<span><blockquote><hr>TunaBoo wrote:I know as a side note paladins sometimes bug group invis.. soon as they leave it works again for the rest. <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes we do.  Our L55 Ancient Teaching - Consecrate Aura (AoE sort of like Ring of Fire) is bugged, and will not allow us to be self invis'd (totems) or group invis'd until we either zone or relog.  Since the spell goes off every 3 secs (when activated), it seems even after 1 min timer and complete, it still fires (yet doesn't do any damage to mobs).  So @ most the group can be invis'd for 3 secs, and then it will break. We have this up on our boards, but haven't received any response to it yet....</span><div></div>

[OrenWolf]

I have this problem with my assassin as well - in some configurations I simply cannot enter stealth in combat anymore. I've never tracked down what it is, but by the gods is it annoying when it happens!<div></div>

[Istaril]

Aye, my Assassin has felt a similar problem. It's rare enough - and when I think to report it, I just camp out and it's gone. And it "never" comes back again (ie - not in the next little while), so I figure it's some fluke - especially since I hadn't heard any of the other Assassin's I knew complaining. The most common scenario is where the "Shadow" line simply does nothing (A reduce aggro / puts me in stealth spell), but I've had occassions where I wasn't able to go into stealth at all. Although I've only every noticed this in groups, that's probably because a large portion of my combat arts I never get to use solo and (esp shadow). <div></div>

[EQGu]

<P>OK ill explain it in detail...</P> <P>If a ranger uses Stream of Arrows in PVP or PVE and say i kill my target. Until i die, zone, or kill the player character again or they campm my invis will be bugged. I will invis then almost immediately i will pop back and be visible again. it happens every time. Also if i use Stream of Arrows on a person in PVP and i kill them, they will now be bugged with the skill on them and it will not go away until they camp zone die etc. although it doesnt hurt them just standing there...if i was to engage another mob or person in the area  they are in with Stream of Arrows and they are bugged it will not only hit the person/mob im fighting but it will ALSO hit that person that is bugged. Either causing them lots of damage or them dying and gaining armor damage loss of shard and debt. i dont think that is supposed to happen and i think that it should be fixed.  This could be used as a griefing tool.. given that the person does one duel with them.</P>

[Tendonit]

EQguru Now that you mention I remember something like that. We had ranger duel someone and win while using stream of arrows. The person who died in duel was bugged somehow, not sure how. I think it he had some trauma effect. He dueled again and ranger won again using stream of arrows and it just added the same effect. Then our healer came back from AFK and cured that effect with cure traume i think. Dont know if that helps.

[Memory]

<DIV>I used Stream of Arrows, i got aggro from an x4 raidmob - so i canceled stream of arrows and used 1. elude and 2. improved surveil for detaunting.</DIV> <DIV>After that, stealth didn't work anymore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will add more examples if i find some.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Memory01 on <span class=date_text>11-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:28 PM</span>

[AfflictedOne]

Well I'm sure there are a few other bugs with invis/stealth and I've rarely seen a few.  But the bug that's being described in the first part of this seems to be totally relates to stream of arrows.  Never had the problem before I got stream.  Don't have the problem if I don't use stream. Have the problem after using stream but not everytime. Can recreate the problem in pretty much 5 minutes or less if I want to. Happens solo or grouped but only after using stream. <div></div>

[Lockeye]

<DIV>I located the problem and have a fix that will make it soon in the LU16b update for testing.</DIV>

[Eyes_of_Truth]

<P>Another bug with any stealth used by any scout to complete a heroic opportunity also becomes permanently greyyed out till u camp out. Would like this ot get looked into please, this includes the sneak skills and their upgrades, the attacks that then put you into stealth, and the stealth + aggro loss linesfor all scouts.</P> <P>Toodles!</P>

[Bock]

<DIV>As a swash i experiance a similar but differnt problem with sneak as well, at times if i use sneak befor the pull is made or the mob is engaged it will not let me use my CA that reqires me to be in sneak, it gives me a message saying "you must be sneaking to use this ability" when trying to use the CA as my first attack befor engaging auto-attack.</DIV> <DIV>Sneak spell for swash is "Snoop"</DIV> <DIV>CA is "Brazen Thrust" (altho this has been hapening with the lower ones as well)</DIV> <DIV>50 Swash</DIV> <DIV>Altho it does not hapen everytime id say maybe about 25% of the time this hapens and is nothing more then anoying.</DIV>

[Star]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eyes_of_Truth wrote:<BR> <P>Another bug with any stealth used by any scout to complete a heroic opportunity also becomes permanently greyyed out till u camp out. Would like this ot get looked into please, this includes the sneak skills and their upgrades, the attacks that then put you into stealth, and the stealth + aggro loss linesfor all scouts.</P> <P>Toodles!</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Wow I'll have to test this. I did notice that my Surveil would still randomly become unuseable till I either campped or zoned. This might be it. If I can test it I will /bug and update with a post here. Maybe Lockeye can fix it.</DIV>

[Arhan]

<DIV>another problem is stream of arrows not turning off after a mob dies.  Also it doesnt switch to another target afterwards U just sit there till u click it off or wait till duration ends.  Is that intended?</DIV>