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otlg
10-31-2005, 07:51 PM
<DIV>I'm posting this here because this forum seems to get way more dev traffic than the others, so apologies to the tester base, this is a report from the live game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With that said, the above named encounter needs to be looked at.  The reason is that you can no-longer stun epic targets.  The only way to successfully kill Ulidan before was to stun him so he didn't summon a million little elemental friends.  This is obviously impossible now, and regardless of the raid force it is only a matter of time before they break off and start tearing through the raid.  When couple with the changes to ward agro, etc., this usually leads to the priests getting wiped down first, then well the rest isn't hard to figure out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would suggest the rate that these elementals are summoned is either drastically reduced or Ulidan becomes stunnable again (which I don't think is a simple change).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We tried this with a very strong raid force (average lvl 56, main tank 58, all priests 55-60, all adp3 or better on the priests and tank, tank fabled, etc.).  Most of the other mobs have been well taken care of after the epic rebalance, but not this guy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Osiri</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Lulian
10-31-2005, 09:21 PM
<P>The encounter is doable..  My guild did it with an avergae lvl of probably 53.  It did take us like 4 tries to get it down but I feel now we could do it with just the occasional wipe.</P> <P>I think we only had 3 or 4 elementals spawn on us and we had a couple of enchanters lock them down.  You can not do any damage to the elementals or they proc their stun.  We had everyone remove their items that proc'd damage.. imbued pants, shields, etc.  Keep the elementals mez'd and you are golden.  Make sure no one damages them if they do break mez and you are golden.</P>

otlg
10-31-2005, 09:49 PM
Thanks for the reply.  I guess we'll give it a go, although I must say I'm envious of your guild have 2 enchanters handy LOL.  On my server (Oggok) we have so few (that are raid level anyway) that I doubt you could fill a group with them.

ZababEW
11-01-2005, 01:10 AM
<DIV>We tried it also and we got [Removed for Content] but we still managed to put it to 40%, im not sure why u guys got only 4-5 elemental and mezzed , u got very lucky to get only 4, we was getting 1 each 30sec, at 40% there was easy 9 mezzed and 1 loose and we wipe. I think is random sometime u get 3-4 during all fight and sometime u get 1 each 30 sec. If u get 4 then u happy because arch lich is  cake but get 1 each 30 sec and we will figure how a lvl 50 guild can do this, we killed arch lich many time before revamp but 1 each 30 sec is too much u able to manage to survive but is a question of time before a little error occur to wipe the raid.</DIV>