Psychic Wail and AOE Mez - Killing the Coercer class nerf after nerf!

[Daqrit]

<DIV>Please tell me the changes to <STRONG>Psychic Wail in combination with AOE Mes</STRONG> wont go life....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I choose an enchanter because I loved them in EQ1. Being a crowd controller, mana buffer, stunner, charmer, etc. etc. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In eq2...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <UL> <LI>Crowd control - Anybody still uses this when grouping or raiding? Ppl actually ask me not to use mez when grouping 99% of the time...</LI> <LI>Stun/Stiffle - Wont work on Epics, and no need for against Heroic mobs... </LI> <LI>Mana buff - A lot less of what it used to be, and most group rather take a bard for the mana buff, as they add more usefull buffs and dps to the group also. </LI> <LI>Charm - Completely useless. Fun to play around with once or twice, but way to unreliable to use often. No groupmember or raidmember would appreciate a coercer charming. </LI></UL> <P>So what else can we do...</P> <P>Well on a raid we are completey useless. Our dps is like 100, so not worth mentioning. We just put up our buffs and might as well go on autofollow, but I think nobody would miss us if we didnt put up our buffs. </P> <P>In a group it depends on the setup. I try to avoid groups with lots of wizzies/warlocks, so I actually feel usefull... But it shouldnt be that way...</P> <P>Coercers have 2 effective ways of soloing. </P> <OL> <LI>Root mob. Dot - Dot - Dot with some small DD's - Root - etc. etc. Long and boring....</LI> <LI>AOE mes a group of mobs, cast psychic wail, restick AOE, etc. Again boring, but way more effective.</LI></OL> <P>Now what is SOE thinking when they made option 2 impossible.... U found us so powerfull that we needed yet another nerf.... ? Bah Im disgusted what you did with both enchanter classes. Not even talking about the huge amount of platinum I paid for Psychic Wail master.... Or the stiffle masters.... Or any other master spell completely useless now. When will it ever end. U really want us to just put up our buffs and go AFK??? We  used to be a beloved and respected class... but now we are the joke of the town.... I challenge any Dev to play a coercer for a couple of days and then give some feedback on the fun he had. I doubt any Dev ever played a coercer above 45 recently.</P> <P>Rest in piece my beloved Enchanter.</P>

[Siddie]

<P>I think u are talking about the mezz that will prevent target to be hitted by aoe dmg?</P> <P>So u think u cannot use anymore the tactic aoe mezz-psyc wail.</P> <P>But honestly i don't see all the nerfs u talking about i am a coercer lvl 58, after Dof come out i was able to solo yellow heroic mob 3 arrows up, so that soe had to change resists on yellow and orange con mobs.</P> <P>But still, my guildie want always to group with me, they sais i am needed to kill big heroic named mobs because of the stifle, the silence the stun and the mezz, and still for the power and power regen i give, they feel an HUGE difference when i'm not with them, with me a group of 4 (4 with me) is able to fight  white con mobs without healer, me and a guardian or a berserk use to duo and kill named (single but heroic) yellow and group of blue.</P> <P>I don't feel to be just a buff bot in raid, and anyway i knew since i started to play , enchanter is a support class, but i'm busy sieving the mob in raid, and mezzing , yes mezzing, because i still use to mezz king zalak guards while we kill them for example.</P> <P>And about my dps in exp group i am sotisfied, on group encounter with psy wail a do a great dps, less on single mob but as i said ench is a support class not a dmg dealer.</P> <P>So i am sotisfied about enchanter balancing.</P>

[Skua]

warlock cast devastation on X mob devastation do 0 dmg! yayyyyyyyyy !Wizard cast inferno do 0 dmg! wizards & warlocks vs Coercers!conjurer / necro cast aoe dot , 0 dmg!we cut thier dps ! yay for coercers!oh lets give them mana regen maybe we get some love ...mages say to the party :kick the coercer out and get something usefull...

[Mandelbro]

<DIV>If your wizards and warlocks want to AE, then why are you mezzing?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you want to cast Psychic Wail, cancel your AE mez the instant before it goes off.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is your problem?</DIV>

[Gungo]

<P>I am confused is the original poster complaining that its harder to break mezz now using AoE spells?</P> <P>wouldn't that be a good thing for crowd control</P>

[PigLick]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gungo wrote:<p>I am confused is the original poster complaining that its harder to break mezz now using AoE spells?</p> <p>wouldn't that be a good thing for crowd control</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes, possibly, except for the little fact that the AoE mez now conveniently blocks itself. Not so good for crowd control after all.... (Not to mention the fact that crowd control is rarely a necessity in the first place and most poeple just use the AoE mez as a short-recast short-duration stun between AoE nukes). PigLick</span><div></div>

[Daqrit]

<DIV>I am complaining because everything that defines our class is being nerfed into oblivion...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There are 1000 and 1 things coercers would love to get fixed (same for illusionists) and the one thing that works nicely gets 'fixed' so that itll be a pain to use. When I refresh my AOE mes after this change, only the targetted mob will remain messed and for all others itll break... Oh joy!</DIV> <DIV>As a side effect our best solo strategy becomes non existant also (aoe mes in combination with PW). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I didnt see any enchanter asking for these changes, so why change it??? Was it that powerfull??? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But sure, consider me a whiner... I just wished they would actually fix something in a way I wouldnt feel being nerfed yet again... I never heard any complaints about a coercer being too powerfull, so I really dont understand where these changes are coming from. I would love some explanation about all the recent coercer changes, but if you do a Dev Tracker on the coercer boards you will find... 0... count them... 0... responses to the 100s of questions about all the coercer changes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe I should just quit playing this class... but Id hate to reroll and powerlvl in order to group with my guildies again. </DIV>

[Daqrit]

<DIV> <DIV><EM>If your wizards and warlocks want to AE, then why are you mezzing?</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>If you want to cast Psychic Wail, cancel your AE mez the instant before it goes off.</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is your problem?</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>What my problem is? Well read the post above. My main problem is why arent they fixing the numerous bugs and non working skills for the class, and add another anoying feature to the coercel class. Nobody asked for this, and it benefits nobody also. Sure I can create a macro indeed to cancel AOE mes before I do Psychic Wail..... But why should I ???? Why cant they just keep something thats working nicely the way it is.... for one freaking time...</DIV></DIV>

[Daqrit]

<P><EM>But honestly i don't see all the nerfs u talking about i am a coercer lvl 58, after Dof come out i was able to solo yellow heroic mob 3 arrows up, so that soe had to change resists on yellow and orange con mobs.</EM></P> <P>U ever checked the Coercer forum? U see one coercer that's satisfied with all these changes? Not talking about the resists on mobs, cause that effects every class, im talking about specific changes to our spells/skills. U see one response from a Dev in that forum? Its just sad.</P><p>Message Edited by Daqritox on <span class=date_text>10-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:29 AM</span>