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AdiX__Styxx__
10-20-2005, 04:03 AM
<DIV>was it really necesary to nerf us even harder? its getting really old whats next nerf our mezzes our dps as if its not low enough ?</DIV> <DIV>With this nerf to our powerbuff line we utterly bring nothing at all anymore to a group/raid !</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is over coercers are dead we are donefor!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am gonna reroll a ranger till you guys finally see what the heck you are doing to my class nerf after nerf after nerf while we are already freaking underpowered compared to any other class in the game priests outdps us sometimes not all the time!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This should never happen tho a healer should never outdps a true dps type not even in defense mode! Trying to crank every last drop out! why is this cause our stuns take too long to cast if we dont cast them we die if we do our dps dies! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Common Soe plz for the love of god fix my coercer she is way too much fun too play (well b4 she was this severly nerfed into oblivion) and you guys just keep bashing her down as if its a dog or something what the heck is wrong with you people?</DIV>

Magu
10-20-2005, 05:47 AM
Do you have a specific change you want to make suggestions about, or is your goal a locked thread? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

Signal9
10-20-2005, 04:09 PM
<DIV>Nah, it was just troll-bait.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you for replying in your usual fashion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back on topic,  Coercers should get another respec for this change, as it adds the int/wis buff to a line that can be improved to M2 with a training choice.  Prior to this change, it was pointless to improve the buff line, as there was no appreciable difference between Adept1/3 and Master level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even the reasoning for this change is a bit dubious as it wsa changed to ensure it did not stack with other mages stat buff lines.  I personally believe that it should have been left, allowing coercers that one additional crumb of utility for the group.</DIV>

AdiX__Styxx__
10-20-2005, 06:52 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Magus` wrote:<BR>Do you have a specific change you want to make suggestions about, or is your goal a locked thread? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The issues we coercers have are well documented in several threads do ya really want me to type it up over and over agian like a broken record? Soe must know by now whats wrong with us if they dont well then our class is truly dead!</P> <P>Its a sad day for coercers err i mean a sad week oh wait a sad month hmmm lets make it a year that should fit perfectly ! </P> <P>Should i push it and say its a sad decade? </P>

AdiX__Styxx__
10-21-2005, 07:11 AM
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Neric
10-21-2005, 07:26 AM
I keeped in there hoping they would fix us, now we have nothing to offer, my main coercer has been shelfed and my account canceled, I will play my alt until it runs out. There is nothing else to do

Flipmode
10-21-2005, 10:27 AM
<P>It is just sad what sony has done to enchanters period.  Sure my Illusionist solo's better but my group benefits are slim to none these days.  So what we are left with is a low DPS mage that wears cloth armor and has little utility left (dont start about mez being useful).  Every other update brings another patch that nerfs us even further, yet passes a blind eye to the really imbalaced classes out there (yes Bruisers, monks, furies...I mean you).</P> <P>Seriously, if we are supposed to be tier 3 damage, why can a healer out DPS me? Bruisers/monks and bards are supposed to be the same tier as me, yet I cant put out the damage they can.  Is this balance?  Am I supposed to mez mobs to death?</P> <P>Troubadors received the biggest upgrading of any class, IMO.  They can now do all the things enchanters can, only better.  The lone exception being regen and that title belongs to coercers barely.  They outbuff enchanters, out damage enchanters, they outregen illusionists.  Hell they even have 2 mezzes and a charm.  Congratz, SOE.  In one fell swoop you made the enchanter class obsolete.  </P> <P>Just do us one favor, please.  Tell us why you hate us so much?  Is it my fault you over powered EQ1 enchanters?  Am I to suffer for that?  Because you messed up, you gimped enchanters in Everquest Online Adventures and nerfed us all the time.  Now the same scenario is repeating itself here.  If you would just communicate with us, these types of posts wouldnt happen.  I have tried it your way.  I used the /feedback in game.  I sent PMs to developers begging for you to just make a brief post to us.  You got beta feedback from numerous enchanters, and just when we were balanced, you pulled a whammy on us in the last 3 days before launch.  One of your devs needs to actually play our class, because right now, I KNOW none do.  Fix us or lose us.  Its that simple.</P>