Do Devs really read these?

[Wonderlu]

<DIV>Hi, I was wondering if the devs really read these boards?  Seems like a lvl 50 toon here now...mainly tanks are no longer tanks and can be killed by just about everything above lvl 40...specially triple arrow up's and a  lot of double and single arrow ups.  I have adept III spells on my berserker and he was a really good Tank before the change with DOF.  Now he aint' crap!  This is such a let down..  But, I noticed I can go to DOF and lvl up there.  But all my old haunts like lava strom are out of the question.  I'm not whining, but just stating facts.  Soon I must either see some changes back to where we were or I'm just going to quit playing this game and go elsewhere.  Just can't have FUN here in the game!  Only things I can really kill or reg or arrow downs if I try going to an area where there are several arrow up's I get killed every time and I mean lvl 40 through 45.  I used to be able to defend myself in these areas, but now there is not even a small chance.  Got killed everytime I tried to go into lava storm.  What a waste!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope Some Devs are really looking at these posts, cause if you are!  Your going to start loosing people to other games if you don't fix this one quick...this sucks</DIV> <DIV>:robotmad:</DIV>

[Magu]

If you're running around solo, you are correct that you can no longer take out heroics/triple-ups. That is intentional, and you need to get used to the new mindset <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[mio]

You should also use their color as a hint, unless you're playing on a black&white screen ... <span>:smileywink:</span> <div></div>

[Shakir10]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Magus` wrote:<BR>If you're running around solo, you are correct that you can no longer take out heroics/triple-ups.<BR><BR>That is intentional, and you need to get used to the new mindset <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Correction, You can't solo Heroic +++ Mobs unless youa are an Illusionist, Bruiser or Ranger. I think maybe there is one other class that can solo heroics too. Illusionist being the best, I have watched them take out named Heroics +++ 3 levels higher than themselves. </P> <P>So I guess you could say, Your not meant to take out heroic/triple-ups ... Unless you play a class the Devs play, Then you can solo whatever you want :smileymad:</P> <P> </P>

[Signal9]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shakir1065 wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Magus` wrote:<BR>If you're running around solo, you are correct that you can no longer take out heroics/triple-ups.<BR><BR>That is intentional, and you need to get used to the new mindset <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Correction, You can't solo Heroic +++ Mobs unless youa are an Illusionist, Bruiser or Ranger. I think maybe there is one other class that can solo heroics too. Illusionist being the best, I have watched them take out named Heroics +++ 3 levels higher than themselves. </P> <P>So I guess you could say, Your not meant to take out heroic/triple-ups ... Unless you play a class the Devs play, Then you can solo whatever you want :smileymad:</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Wow, I guess Illusionist is the Uber solo class, then, eh?</P> <P> </P> <P>But you're right, Enchanters have the BEST Dev.  He listens to all our problems, and offers us ideas, and solutions that we all like.</P> <P> </P> <P>/do I really need a tag?</P>

[Ninusar]

<DIV>--------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> <P><BR>Correction, You can't solo Heroic +++ Mobs unless youa are an Illusionist, Bruiser or Ranger. I think maybe there is one other class that can solo heroics too. Illusionist being the best, I have watched them take out named Heroics +++ 3 levels higher than themselves. </P> <P>So I guess you could say, Your not meant to take out heroic/triple-ups ... Unless you play a class the Devs play, Then you can solo whatever you want <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif" width=16 border=0></P> <P>-------------------------------------------------</P> <P>I have heard this solo ^^^ crap about soo many classes.  illusionist bruiser Ranger Fury Warlock Necro Conj..... its all crap.  people say that it happens but they offer no solid evedience other than "i killed a ^^^" or i saw a _________ kill a ^^^" for every major raid boss thats been killed i have seen a video. And if someone was soloing ^^^ you can bet that they would be posting the video for bragging rights. until you see it with your own eyes or do it... dont listen to the Fourms chatter.</P></DIV>

[Krelfeari]

<DIV>true true, chanter is definitely by far the best class in game, thats why so many play it!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/sarcasm off</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>most servers have a 5 to 1 ratio comparing sorcerer classes to chanters...yeah..as in 100 wizards for every 20 illusionist.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>this is mostly cause they are gimped and crowd control is almost useless. up until the recent changes enchanters couldnt solo white cons let alone ^^^ so just keep in mind that the other side exists, one subclass that was incredibly weak is not stronger, does NOT mean it will last or that devs give a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about illusi more than zerk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Wonderlu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mioss wrote:<BR>You should also use their color as a hint,<BR><BR>unless you're playing on a black&white screen ... <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ohhh ya...take color as a hint!!!  lets see if they are green like 10 lvl's below me I should be able to solo triple ups' correct!!</P> <P>WRONG!!!  They just kill me!  And now you can't even get into lavastorm to harvest for rares that my lvl 50 berserker which is a lvl 50 armorer.  So I suspect that I should look at what color now...lets see Grey!  Well I don't see no greys there any more!  And every worker that is mining rock there is a lvl 42 triple up and they all attack me in groups..  Hummm they all green....maybe I should be able to handle them?  No...sure can't so lets see...  COLOR!!!  What color are you talking about other than GREY!  HINTS ACCEPTED>>>  I'm waiting for your turn now</P>

[Wonderlu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wonderlust wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mioss wrote:<BR>You should also use their color as a hint,<BR><BR>unless you're playing on a black&white screen ... <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ohhh ya...take color as a hint!!!  lets see if they are green like 10 lvl's below me I should be able to solo triple ups' correct!!</P> <P>WRONG!!!  They just kill me!  And now you can't even get into lavastorm to harvest for rares that my lvl 50 berserker which is a lvl 50 armorer.  So I suspect that I should look at what color now...lets see Grey!  Well I don't see no greys there any more!  And every worker that is mining rock there is a lvl 42 triple up and they all attack me in groups..  Hummm they all green....maybe I should be able to handle them?  No...sure can't so lets see...  COLOR!!!  What color are you talking about other than GREY!  HINTS ACCEPTED>>>  I'm waiting for your turn now</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>As far as that goes....  Try it for yourself....  This usually helps someone that is making something for someone else.</P> <P>Take a lvl 50 berserker out to lavastorm..  Get on a mount or just walk, what ever..  Put on ebon armor...pristine of course and imbued..  Take a walk thru that tunnel and try to go harvest there.  Not just in that first opening...but go back over the bridge.. if you get that far.  If this is what you intended for the game then I'm outta here...  Bye Bye...  If not...and you really care about your player base...then FIX it.</P>

[lisasdarr]

<span><blockquote><hr>Wonderlust wrote: <p> What color are you talking about other than GREY!  HINTS ACCEPTED>>>  I'm waiting for your turn now</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Try Green to yellow non-heroics? And to harvest try Feerott instead, same raws and it isn't the group only hellzone that Lavastorm is.</span><div></div>

[Espyderman]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wonderlust wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mioss wrote:<BR>You should also use their color as a hint,<BR><BR>unless you're playing on a black&white screen ... <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ohhh ya...take color as a hint!!!  lets see if they are green like 10 lvl's below me I should be able to solo triple ups' correct!!</P> <P>WRONG!!!  They just kill me!  And now you can't even get into lavastorm to harvest for rares that my lvl 50 berserker which is a lvl 50 armorer.  So I suspect that I should look at what color now...lets see Grey!  Well I don't see no greys there any more!  And every worker that is mining rock there is a lvl 42 triple up and they all attack me in groups..  Hummm they all green....maybe I should be able to handle them?  No...sure can't so lets see...  COLOR!!!  What color are you talking about other than GREY!  HINTS ACCEPTED>>>  I'm waiting for your turn now</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>As a chanter i could take out yellow dbl ups easily, mez, stin and stifles worked fine. Not sure where you got your info, but your dead wrong. Chanter is easily the best classs in the game cause their control is uber.</DIV>

[Wonderlu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Espyderman wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wonderlust wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mioss wrote:<BR>You should also use their color as a hint,<BR><BR>unless you're playing on a black&white screen ... <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ohhh ya...take color as a hint!!!  lets see if they are green like 10 lvl's below me I should be able to solo triple ups' correct!!</P> <P>WRONG!!!  They just kill me!  And now you can't even get into lavastorm to harvest for rares that my lvl 50 berserker which is a lvl 50 armorer.  So I suspect that I should look at what color now...lets see Grey!  Well I don't see no greys there any more!  And every worker that is mining rock there is a lvl 42 triple up and they all attack me in groups..  Hummm they all green....maybe I should be able to handle them?  No...sure can't so lets see...  COLOR!!!  What color are you talking about other than GREY!  HINTS ACCEPTED>>>  I'm waiting for your turn now</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>As a chanter i could take out yellow dbl ups easily, mez, stin and stifles worked fine. Not sure where you got your info, but your dead wrong. Chanter is easily the best classs in the game cause their control is uber.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>My God!  you aren't even reading what was posted!  Try going to LavaStorm and go by your self and go thru that cave and into the harvesting area to harvest and then harvest for things you need for crafting.  you can use your lvl 50 chanter....give it a try...they will all be green to you.  But, I don't think you or any dev can go there as a melee toon lvl 50 can harvest to your hearts content..you can't do it.....and this is intended by the Devs.............  I noticed that they did not respond to me about this..they must have tried and got slaughtered there..  ROFLMAO I hope so<BR>

[XenoSage]

<P>I'm going to go ahead and put my 2coppers worth in on this. The reason you can't solo a green triple up arrow now, where as before the patch you could as long as you grouped with a 40 some to con it to the group. Sony took the game and scaled it down damage-wise to fit more room for future levels etc. The reason they did this is because if they left it how it was and just added more levels, classes would be doing way too much damage, and able to solo mobs that should be ment for group etc. For example Fire toad was ment for a group but if you used a 40 to con it to green pretty much any level 50 could solo it, and even a 40 some warlock could solo that mob if they knew how to time everything perfect. So that's why your berserker cannot harvest in LS no more at 50 because of the greens aggroing etc, that's why you can't kill a green ^^^ mob that was probably gray before the revamp aka Fire Toad. You gotta put that into understanding that the game has been scaled back in everything damage and armor to fit more into the game later on. Hope this settles that argument.</P> <P>The only way to beat the green cons that aggro you for harvesting is to pretty much get a few more levels to make them turn gray. That is pretty much your only option unless you got invis to pass through them and then be careful about where mobs are at when your harvesting.</P><p>Message Edited by XenoSage on <span class=date_text>10-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:50 AM</span>

[Wonderlu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> XenoSage wrote:<BR> <P>I'm going to go ahead and put my 2coppers worth in on this. The reason you can't solo a green triple up arrow now, where as before the patch you could as long as you grouped with a 40 some to con it to the group. Sony took the game and scaled it down damage-wise to fit more room for future levels etc. The reason they did this is because if they left it how it was and just added more levels, classes would be doing way too much damage, and able to solo mobs that should be ment for group etc. For example Fire toad was ment for a group but if you used a 40 to con it to green pretty much any level 50 could solo it, and even a 40 some warlock could solo that mob if they knew how to time everything perfect. So that's why your berserker cannot harvest in LS no more at 50 because of the greens aggroing etc, that's why you can't kill a green ^^^ mob that was probably gray before the revamp aka Fire Toad. You gotta put that into understanding that the game has been scaled back in everything damage and armor to fit more into the game later on. Hope this settles that argument.</P> <P>The only way to beat the green cons that aggro you for harvesting is to pretty much get a few more levels to make them turn gray. That is pretty much your only option unless you got invis to pass through them and then be careful about where mobs are at when your harvesting.</P> <P>Message Edited by XenoSage on <SPAN class=date_text>10-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:50 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Ok I can understand this much....not a problem and I agree...but the problem lies here:   Too many of the mobs are tripple ups...they wenet hog wild making just about all of them triple up's...  So really now that I have someone's attention....</P> <P>Cut back on the Triple ups' and we can at least go harvest and only have to worry about 1 triple up at a time..  The way it is you have to worry about like 40 triple ups at a time and can't run away from all of them.</P> <P>Thanks<BR></P>

[lisasdarr]

<span><blockquote><hr>Wonderlust wrote: <p>Cut back on the Triple ups' and we can at least go harvest and only have to worry about 1 triple up at a time..  The way it is you have to worry about like 40 triple ups at a time and can't run away from all of them.</p><hr></blockquote>You obviously missed it the first time, so I shall say it again. DON'T HARVEST IN LAVASTORM. Go to Everfrost, or the Feerott and harvest to your hearts content in far greater safety than you can in LS. LS is a deadly zone focused on high level groups and as such is not a suitable zone for pottering about mining and gardening.</span><div></div>

[Kaiser Sigma]

<span><blockquote><hr>Magus` wrote:If you're running around solo, you are correct that you can no longer take out heroics/triple-ups. That is intentional, and you need to get used to the new mindset <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Really? Because I've seen a lvl 55 Troubador soloing Karmuth the Conqueror, lvl 56 ^^^ named mob at Silent City. Stun, 1k of damage, rince and repeat. That's a new mindset for you. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Goejun]

<P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=175085" target=_blank><SPAN>Wonderlust</SPAN></A> is so right because I play a high level tanker and a medium level mage and there is a huge balance problem in favour of the mages. Tanks can't really tank well now and their awful DPS (by nature) make fights painfull and dangerous, even again green mobs while mage have their natural huge DPS but don't have any problem to tank a mob because its dead before it can hit them (or it would be the mage that would die). And if u add mob control to this, then mages rox even more.... </P> <P>There is really a playablity problem with the tanks wich are not really fun right now and there is also a problem of balance because mage are overpowered...Yeah, flame me and BS me but I have played both worlds before writing that and now EQ2 is a game for the mages and some other DPS alternatives.</P>

[Kwoung]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shakir1065 wrote:<BR><BR> <P>Unless you play a class the Devs play, Then you can solo whatever you want :smileymad:<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, the OP is playing a class at least one of the devs I know for certain plays as their main on live. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><p>Message Edited by Kwoung on <span class=date_text>10-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:50 PM</span>

[trenor]

<P>Yes, at times i have been able to solo a triple up mob heroic.  Did it take me an hour yes.  Was there a 75% chance of death if he was over my lvl yes.  If root breaks one hit im dead.  We are the king of crown control and as such why should we not be able to solo something our lvl and heroic.   But keep in mind our damage output is the same as a heaer type in fact shammys can beat us in output.  We also may have gained some solo abilities but are now gimped to all hell in raids.</P> <P> </P> <P>Fyi I went through 48 lvls of hell before the update and dont talk [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] unless you have done it we were the worse class there was pre lu 13 times 50.  I think its about [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] time they did something nice to us i enjoy being able to solo something now kthat others can't.  Ya know why because for 8 months i couldnt solo a double down green while kevry other class was tearing up triple up heroics.  Hows that feel!!!!!!!!!!  Well now ya know how we fealt!!!!!!!!!</P> <P> </P> <P>Raiding is a different story every spell is virtually usel;ess because of stun or stifle component.  Mana drain is useless cause of power pool of epics.  So ya know when that root breaks i get one hit.  So if i'm not lucky im dead.  For the experience part do you really think its time efficient for the lowest damage outputter mage class to solo let alone take on a named?  It takes me about 45 minutes to solo a named triple up my lvl with medding for mana regen and stunniong rooting etc when it breaks.  </P> <P>Btw don't know if you ever saw a bruiser or ranger in action but they can do the same thing and alot faster.  Go duel one and you'll find out.  We are the masters of crowd control as such we shou8ld be the best soloers but we have little damage to do it.  There is no reason whatsoever for anyone to believe that nall classes are equal in every area. Classes are made for specific jobs in grp and solo.  </P> <P>When raid time comes around and there is a troubador and me sitting there and one spot open guess where i sit 3 times already!! Harvesting nodes and cursing cause my whole guild is on raid wioth the troubs in my spot!!!!!!!!!!!! So get your facts together and rememer equality in all areas sin't there you can take all my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] solo abilities away cause i never solo anyway! I am made for grping and the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] utility class! Give my utility back take that personae and throw him mout the window let me stifle, stun, mez or do some [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] thing to that raid mob to help the grp!!  Make my mana regen the same at least or better than a bard class!!  The higher you get the less you will see this soloing triple arrow ups fyi the mana just isn't there to do it!!</P> <P> </P> <P>I can't write anymore this has got me frustrated to all hell</P> <P> </P> <P>Bye</P>

[Bonki]

<P>Before I purchased a full set of Vandium, and a full set of Cobalt, and some random Darathar Fabled loots, I could NOT run through the tunnel in LS.  I was a level 48 Pally, warded, LoH up and Devout Sacrement up, still died....like 7 times in a row...not to mention I was on my 40% horse (Which is [Removed for Content] useless when an encounter starts, b/c you can /yell and run.  So, in turn, you lose your speed enhancement and get clobbered by the barrage of small mobs in the tunnel, and stunned by the ^^ punk too.  Sometimes you can make it through the tunnel, but if you get stunned, consider yourself as good as dead.  As for now, with all my new pretty armor,  but 2k mitigation, 200 agi, 200 sta, and 300st, I don't have that problem.  I just dont think it should take fabled/legendary gear rounding to around 35 plat to go in to measly ol' Lava Storm.</P> <P>After the tunnel, it's cake, but since there is no "long safe way," rather than the "quick up through the middle way," it seems a little unbalanced currently.  I just thought I would thow in my two bits instead of giving it to the giggle gibbler gamblin goblin game hehe.  BTW, I can solo a ^^^ Heroic....just not named, of my level easily with 822 mitigation debuff hex dolls, manastone, wards, LoH, and Devout Sacrament, oh and my RGF hehe.  Really an easy 4 minute fight, just eats all my power, so I don't do this alot.  Another quick thing too, people probably don't record videos (god who would waste that time anyway) of killing ^^^ because it's really not a big deal.  It's not like soloing Darathar or something, not a huge deal at all, everyone in my guild can pretty much do a ^^^ heroic (not in harclaves either!).  **Makes mobster noises</P>