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IpseDix
10-06-2005, 05:34 PM
<DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Reference</FONT>: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=3&message.id=21303#M21303" target=_blank>HERE </A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Moorgard stated : "</FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff6666>Considering how the different fighters are playing out so far, <U>we're pretty happy with where tanking is right now. I wouldn't expect sweeping changes to any particular class as to how they tank</U>, though of course all abilities are subject to adjustments and tweaking</FONT>. "</FONT> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I think his statement can be considered the "end of all dreams" for many players; with this post, Moorgard cut off any hope for those players who have seen their toon(s) drastically changed because of LU#13 and were still waiting for some "review" to re-balance the new class disparity SoE created.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ya, this has been the finishing stroke and </FONT><FONT size=2>Moorgard killed any hope for a "fair & funny" game for many players; now we know what's the real situation: nothing gonna change for us.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Moorg post has definitively cancelled any possibility to reactivate my account here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Regarding Moorg post, someone has written:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><<<EM> ....Its gives players like me exactly what we need to know to make an intelligent informed decision on wether EQ2 is a product for us or not.....>></EM>  and  <<<EM>..I chose Warrior 10 months ago and really wish this type of information from you existed back then. Would have saved me alot of money and time...>></EM>   Words of wisdom  I say .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=2></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>This thought well describes what so many players feel now (FYI: this is the same "dirty trick" SoE made in SwG when they changed the combat system, when so many players got screwed. SoE justified their actions with a poor "<EM>we worked for you</EM>, <EM>for a better game and a greater satisfaction for every class</EM>" like they are doing now ... said enough  !! )</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>It's like if you have bought a spider car and after 10 months they morfed your spider into a station wagon; not exactly the same thing....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ok, so they said everything is "working as intended" now and nothing gonna change: if you <STRONG>disagree</STRONG> you have only 3 options:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- /roll a different class based on the new rules they decided (not much  "casual player friendly")</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- /cancel account</FONT><FONT size=2> and play something different.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>- stay and play your old toon even if it is not the same toon you have rolled 10 months ago.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I came to my conclusion; bye bye Sony</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc00 size=2><STRONG>Edit: There are other threads on this topic already, including the one where I made my original post. At any rate, saying there's "no hope left now" is a bit extreme. I didn't say no changes would be made; I said no sweeping ones. I'd hope that even the most unhappy player right now would see that no class is so horribly broken that it is unplayable. Adjustments and bug fixes will continue to be made, as I stated above.</STRONG></FONT></DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Moorgard on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:51 AM</span>

SniplenButterfigs
10-06-2005, 05:40 PM
<Waves> Byebyes, don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.<span>:smileyhappy:</span> <div></div>

IpseDix
10-06-2005, 05:57 PM
<P><FONT size=2>Doh .... I knew there are tons of <A href="mailto:dumb@$$" target=_blank>dumb@$$</A> out there; just didn't expect one of them to post first </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=2>/shrug</FONT></P>

Niburr
10-06-2005, 06:15 PM
<DIV>/wave</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  At least you have station exchange!</DIV>

Aszuth
10-06-2005, 06:15 PM
If you actually explained your position better than his quote you might get more support - but "rock, paper, scissors" for which tank is ideal in a given situation is a sensible method of making sure that ALL tank classes are useful in their primary function.

SniplenButterfigs
10-06-2005, 06:22 PM
Oh man, you hurt my feelings twice today now, once for leaving and now for insulting me.<span>:smileysurprised:</span> <div></div>

l_doggy_l
10-06-2005, 06:33 PM
So why kinda problems are you having? Are you wearing fabled/legendary gear and using adept 3's/master 1's/master 2's? What lvl and class are you? <div></div>

MagicWand
10-06-2005, 06:45 PM
CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF?!

Rhianni
10-06-2005, 06:51 PM
<P>Well I believe many.. wait let me trump your imagined uinformed adjective with my own... most players disagree that the game is ruined.  In my guild a couple guardians and a couple templars have quit. No other class did out of 100 members. That tells me they were the type that only wanted to be the best and couldnt settle for being even.</P>

Malkant
10-06-2005, 07:08 PM
<DIV>Good ridance..  All my guildies that are lev 40 and 50+ that are tanks are happy with their changes and can deal with it.  They are not [Removed for Content].  As everyone has said....  instead of just quoting something actually put some info as to why you suck, what kind of equipment you have, what level of abilities you're using.... etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good bye to people like you, hello to a better game without you.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Malkantar on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:15 AM</span>

crunchybob
10-06-2005, 08:01 PM
<P>I love it.</P> <P>"Are you wearing Legendary/Fabled gear? Are all your abilities at Adept3/Master1?" </P> <P>Yeah because every single player can do that without a problem. On my server level 10 <EM>adept 1's</EM> are going for 5-10 gold, level 30-40 ones are in the 20-40 gold range depending on utility and adept 3's above 20 don't go for less than a plat in general. My berserker is level 36 and has 15 gold to her name after buying adept 1's for her major CA's and settling for app4's on her less used ones. I tried making some tradeskill alts to offset the cost, but the rare TS tomes for making adept 3's are going for 40 gold + as well, and I'm talking about the ones under level 20. I suppose I could stop regular experience on one of those toons and farm tier 1 and 2 zones for several weeks until one drops. Yeah that would be my idea of fun.</P> <P>But as the previous poster said, the game will be better without you and all of the people like you, when they merge servers and have less available staff to fix bugs and develop new expansions because of reduced revenues, the game will be much better, so go and take all of those whiners with you.</P> <P>It's a game people. Get over yourselves and stop with the I'm so uber garbage, it makes you look like a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]. The OP has issues with the game, as do a lot of other people. I have mostly adjusted to the changes and adapted my playstyle. While I'm not happy with the reduced effectiveness of my toons, I've learned to live with it. Others are not willing to make that sacrifice after vesting nearly a year into a toon to log in one day and have it be a shadow of it's former self. If I didn't have some RL friends in the game, I'd probably have left too. The good riddance attitude and the vitriol aimed at people who want to play the game but feel like thier class has been castrated does nothing but make them want to leave more. If enough people leave, the servers merge, if the servers merge, they might lay off developers, which means what? You dont get those shiny new expansions as often and you dont get bugs you think are important fixed. So quit being a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].</P>