Templar Nerf

[LowfyrWildforge]

<DIV>I don't want freaking mez and stun.  These changes are awful.  Why can only tanks parry? The whole point of being a templar was to be a healer that didn't fold into a pile of robes the moment a monster turned my direction.  But to top it off, you gimped our heals, too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Let me see if I have this straight:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not as good dps as other healers.</DIV> <DIV>Not as good at healing as other healers.</DIV> <DIV>Not more durable than other healers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow, thanks a lot.</DIV>

[Cecil_Stri]

<DIV>Dunno what part of priest and fighter changes arent fully on test yet that is so confusing for you people that post stuff like this</DIV>

[quetzaqotl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LowfyrWildforge wrote:<BR> <DIV>I don't want freaking mez and stun.  These changes are awful.  Why can only tanks parry? The whole point of being a templar was to be a healer that didn't fold into a pile of robes the moment a monster turned my direction.  But to top it off, you gimped our heals, too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Let me see if I have this straight:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not as good dps as other healers.</DIV> <DIV>Not as good at healing as other healers.</DIV> <DIV>Not more durable than other healers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow, thanks a lot.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Lol well you can still heal better than me and you are more durable but that comes at a price not avoiding as much as leather priests.</P> <P>Its whiners like you trying to convince people that templars suck (/arent that great) and are broken that I begin to think SOE needs to opt taking templars from the game all together.</P> <P>[LU14 "Everyone should be happy to know we removed templars from the game..."]</P> <P>was j/k but man wait till all changes are thru before you go begin a whinefest.<BR></P>

[Supernova17]

Have you even seen our spells now??? Heals cut in half. Reactives no longer stacking with older versions (BoV, SP, GI on same timers) Removed mitigation buffs Group ward for 800 or so hp given to us, whop de friggen do we get a lowbie Shaman spell!! Mezzs and Stun? I'm speechless... Now we're just enchanters than heal as well as a Paladin... Slightly improved nuke damage... I am a healer, give me back my heals. Trade them for these frauds you call nukes. <div></div>

[tebion]

<span><blockquote><hr>Supernova17 wrote:Have you even seen our spells now??? Heals cut in half. Reactives no longer stacking with older versions (BoV, SP, GI on same timers) Removed mitigation buffs Group ward for 800 or so hp given to us, whop de friggen do we get a lowbie Shaman spell!! Mezzs and Stun? I'm speechless... Now we're just enchanters than heal as well as a Paladin... Slightly improved nuke damage... I am a healer, give me back my heals. Trade them for these frauds you call nukes. <div></div><hr></blockquote>guess what, you feel now like all non-cleric (or maybe even non-templar) priest felt before ... and now the chances are good, that all priests will be able to fulfill their job equally, this has to prove though still, as its still not completely balanced yet -> wait and see before whining in advance. and yes, i know i will be one-starred for this, good that i dont care.</span><div></div>

[Lishara]

<P>It looks like ALL heals were lowered in effectiveness (with the exception of shaman's wards which desperately needed to be improved).  Not just templars.  I think that this is because mobs are supposed to be hitting for less damage after the combat upgrade so all the priest classes are supposed to be rebalanced with that in mind.</P> <P>Again, we will have to wait and see what happens as they tweak priests/fighters...  I'm not ready to pronounce armageddon quite yet.  </P>

[runekee]

<P>Its also important to note that not only has mob dmg been reduced, but fighters hp have been lowered as well as mob HP. So priests heals were lowered inline with these changes. Look at the big picture before you start screaming foul.  All healers heals, bar shammies were lowered, not just templars. Templars getting stuns? Well Inquisitors have always had haste and a tiny dps buff( which is being boosted by 20%), so it seems templars are getting some utility now.</P> <P>Stuns always featured in the  EQ1 cleric spell lists. Im not surpised in the very least that they have been added to templars. A few sec stun might not seem great, but it provides extra time for the tank to regain agro, which isnt a bad thing. 1min timer doesnt sound too harsh either. Providing its a spell which is in my opinion meant to be used in those circumstances where the tank looses agro. If you have a decent tank in group and you know how to watch heal agro, you shouldnt need to stun that often.</P>

[Imri]

Templars have had a stun since day 1 in EQ2. It's called prostrate. It is by far the most horrid spell in our line as it cost almost 400 power to cast, took about 10 seconds to cast, and only had a duration of 5 seconds. It also has little use when we solo or group. Our heals and debuffs are what drive us thorugh a group fight while our smites are what get us through solo play. I don't think I've ever seen one post of a templar being thankful for thier stun spell. I too am part of the crowd that says keep us strong healers. To make everyone heal equally well, it shouldn't take making all healers suck at healing.Templars have always had a healing edge because of our buffs/debuffs. I can uderstand our reactives and instant heals should be on par with other priests. Our buffs and debuffs are the class defining abilities of a templar to give them a healing edge. Now it seems we are to lose some of that definition making us wonde what our role is. So yes I guess a lot of othe priests got their wish. Templars now heal as well as you, but now no class heals well, instead of all classes healing well. <div></div>

[Vathranen]

This is a matter of perspective and proportions. Templars heal for less. This is fact. So do Druids and Paladins. Shaman wards were also reduced. But (and I hate to agree with Moorgard), look at all sides of the situation. At the same time, wards now take mitigation into account. If you've looked at the new persona window you've seen that this is huge. Mitigation can get way up there now, meaning tanks will take far less damage. So monsters hit for less, tanks take less damage, and your spells heal for less. Seems like you'll see an improvement when actually playing the game and looking at health bars instead of raw numbers.

[Bjerde]

<span>Keep the Templar a pure healer. Lets us heal and buff the tank. Please don't make the Templar a  hybrid healer class. Make our current Stun better (no one uses it....ever), and keep the mezz, gimme another heal : ) Losing Parry is not that bad on Test, so far. I get more interruptions, but I can still heal/nuke fine while solo'ing. Odinn - 50 Templar Jinny - 20 Templar - Test </span><div></div>

[Priestdu]

For the last time.........WE DONT NEED MITI BUFFS after the patch.......guardians are getting to 75% miti self buffed............. <div></div>

[AdiX__Styxx__]

<P>people are dumb! or just ignorant!</P> <P>..........</P> <P>Anyways its time for templars to tone down and feel like a gimped shaman for the next 6 months till you get ignored and ignored know what it feels like yet? well i do ! </P> <P>.........</P> <P>j/k</P> <P>Take it easy wait for changes to come out look at the whole picture! Wardens are having it far worse then you templars!</P>