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Troodon
07-02-2005, 05:36 AM
<div></div><b>EDIT: Please ignore, that'll teach me to post when Im half asleep.</b> <strike> </strike>I seem to have enountered a potential problem with the future ranking of abilities and when you can learn them, that is where you can only learn the App4 when you first get the spell, adept 1 a couple levels later and if you're lucky enough to have such the master five levels after first getting the spell. Something that will no doubt please scholars as they no longer have to compete with Adept drops as everyone has to buy an app4. Im not sure why, but Ive got a taster of this potential change. Im fortunate to have a Master 1 for the T5 Paladin taunt Clarion Call. Its a spell gained at level 40. My problem occured as I was mentoring a group of high 30s low 40s guild mates. I mentored to 42 and while rearranging my abilities noticed that my prized taunt was Red, unsuable, investigating I discovered that the minimum level to be able to use such is 45. Hence I was left with not resort but to use a very grey taunt. There needs to be a system where an ablities rank (Apprentice, Adept, Master) will automatically scale down if someone mentors and goes beyond the minimum level for the rank they have scribed. Otherwise people are going to effectively find that they cant mentor certain groups, that your abilities are actually to good to use with some people. PS, If you're going to go to the trouble to implement an auto ability rank scaling, why not go a step further and have abilities automatically scale to the appropriate level on mentoring? Those that have effects someone of that level shouldnt have either red out or just have those particular effects stripped? <div></div><p>Message Edited by TroodonIE on <span class=date_text>07-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:30 PM</span>

Yrield
07-02-2005, 05:08 PM
Hmm, Paladin get clarion call at 45, so if you mentor down to 42, you have to use Noble Tone. <div></div>

Dae
07-02-2005, 10:46 PM
To the OP: If you are effectively fighting as a level 42 why should you be able to use an ability you don't receive until 45? <div></div>

Troodon
07-03-2005, 12:22 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Daerv wrote:To the OP: If you are effectively fighting as a level 42 why should you be able to use an ability you don't receive until 45? <div></div><hr></blockquote> Erp, sorry for wasting everyones time, Im sure I had Clarion Call at 40, but I must have been wrong. I<strike>m sorry I probably havent been clear enough. Paladins get Clarion Call at 40. However my master1 Clarion Call has a minimum level requirement of 45 - now this could just be a bug, but I seem to recall someone mentioning that some changes to the way people can scribe abilities was on the cards: that when your first get an ability the maximum you can learn is App4, a level or two after that an Adept1, a couple more levels before you can scribe a Master. e.g. First get Clarion Call                                                 Able to scribe Master 1 v                                                                                 V 40............41............42............43...... ......44............45                                           ^                                          Able to scribe Adept1 Assuming this is the case, its posible to mentor below the level required of an advanced version of an ability (adept or master), yet still be over the level when you would be able to have it at App4, thus you have to fall back on abilities you gained much earlier in your career.</strike></span><div></div>