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goboy
06-23-2005, 03:53 PM
<DIV>I logged on this morning and decided to whack a couple of mobs.  I was unpleasantly surprized when I cast ring of cold and it expired so fast that I was only able to cast immolation.  I quickly cast frozen manacles and was even more unpleasantly surprized when it expired after .5 seconds.  My next cast was tether - and again I was getting beat on after casting only 1 spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here is the durations of the three spells:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Frozen Manacles .5 seconds</DIV> <DIV>Tether 12 seconds</DIV> <DIV>Ring of Cold 12 seconds</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I cannot find any information on what the druation was prior to this morning. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Andre
06-23-2005, 04:11 PM
<P>Warlocks and wizards Unite!<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>As it stand we should group wiht eachother to make our roots worked.</P>

Ravenmi
06-23-2005, 06:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> goboy wrote:<BR> <DIV>I logged on this morning and decided to whack a couple of mobs.  I was unpleasantly surprized when I cast ring of cold and it expired so fast that I was only able to cast immolation.  I quickly cast frozen manacles and was even more unpleasantly surprized when it expired after .5 seconds.  My next cast was tether - and again I was getting beat on after casting only 1 spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here is the durations of the three spells:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Frozen Manacles .5 seconds</DIV> <DIV>Tether 12 seconds</DIV> <DIV>Ring of Cold 12 seconds</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I cannot find any information on what the druation was prior to this morning. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Okay, one thing, the display on FM is wrong, the .5 is the time between the dmg effect and the root taking hold.  At least thats my understanding.</P> <P>But moving past that, 12 seconds for a root that takes 4 seconds to cast, has a 45 second recast timer and takes 140 power to cast and has a chance of drawing outside encounter agro is absolutely insane.</P> <P>If this is a nerf and not a bug then this is one of the dumbest things I've seen them do lately.  A 12 second root is nearly worthless, a 12 second root that takes 4 seconds to cast is almost completely worthless.  Add in the 45 second recast timer and this spell is nothing but a complete waste of power and time.</P> <P>I can't imagine why any Warlock or Wizard would use it in that state.  </P> <P>If you want to reduce the duration then you need to reduce the cast timer significantly.. 2 seconds Maybe.. and drop the recast timer down a large chunk and probably give them a small power cost reduction.  </P> <P>If you intend it to be a last ditch try and get away type spell then make it instant cast, no power and get it over with.</P> <P>I think its just silly that level 40-50 Warlocks and Wizards are running around using thier level 19 root spell still, and thats going to be thier only root spell after this change.  </P> <P>If this is a bug.. fix it.. if this is a nerf.. please give these guys a break and don't do something stupid.</P> <P> </P> <P>- Ravenmist, Warden of the Unrest Server<BR></P>

TooFarGo
06-23-2005, 07:10 PM
*crosses fingers and wishes* I'm hoping they up our damage output such that a 12s root is plenty =) <div></div>

goboy
06-23-2005, 07:49 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ravenmist wrote:<BR><BR> <P>Okay, one thing, the display on FM is wrong, the .5 is the time between the dmg effect and the root taking hold.  At least thats my understanding.</P> <P>- Ravenmist, Warden of the Unrest Server<BR></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The display is not wrong.  I cast frozen manacles this morning (after the 11b update) and watched the root effect (the dark to light effect transition) wear off in less time then I could cast a followup spell.  I did not time it since I could not afford the aggro from the spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Ravenmi
06-23-2005, 09:17 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> goboy wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ravenmist wrote:<BR><BR> <P>Okay, one thing, the display on FM is wrong, the .5 is the time between the dmg effect and the root taking hold.  At least thats my understanding.</P> <P>- Ravenmist, Warden of the Unrest Server<BR></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The display is not wrong.  I cast frozen manacles this morning (after the 11b update) and watched the root effect (the dark to light effect transition) wear off in less time then I could cast a followup spell.  I did not time it since I could not afford the aggro from the spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Sorry to break this to you but Frozern Manacles displays as 0.5 seconds on live servers too and it has for a long time.  It has nothing to do with this patch or update.<BR></P> <DIV>Doesn't mean they didn't break the spell worse then it already is live as well.</DIV>

Styx69
06-24-2005, 12:11 AM
<P>BG speaks, heres the link.</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=8726#M8726" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=8726#M8726</A></P> <P> </P> <p>Message Edited by Styx69 on <span class=date_text>06-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:15 PM</span>