About Rares Forage Items and the Removing of Bots

[rul]

<DIV>Hello There,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, i want to report something good on a side , but something really bad on the other.</DIV> <DIV>First the good :</DIV> <DIV>- well this is perfect that SoE finally made something about the foraging bots . at least you can now harvest any kind of harvestable , and not only roots, as it was the case a month ago.</DIV> <DIV>Now the bad :</DIV> <DIV>-No more Ebon cluster for sale for exemple. or yes maybe one .... at 5 plat. well . cool .Since you remooved bots , Ebon price have climb. so it s now even more hard to get some for questing (reference for the post about it). Well how happy i am , now i ll defenitly not be able to finish my bone bladed claymore.</DIV> <DIV>-No more armorer and even less weapons crafter using ebon : why someone would pay 5 or 6 plat or even more to get something that can be easely outpowered by a questing item ? : curiously  i saw the same pristine imbued ebon forged warhammer since 3 weeks for sale, and nobody looks like interested (at 3plat).</DIV> <DIV>Now it s true that others rare T5 harvestables looks like not becoming inflated, but even they are less and less for sale.</DIV> <DIV>Now i think that SoE could make Something INTELLIGENT and very SIMPLE : just increases drop rate of rare, and insted of being something like 1/10000 to get one , put it at 1/100, so this way normal players will not have to play like "Bots" to finally get one of thoose [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] harvestable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-thanks for listening to me .</DIV> <DIV>- Of course dev team will not read this, or just laugh at it as usual.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S.: just a question , Will someday the DEV TEAM WILL WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE THAN NERFING ? you know like just listening to player feedback and trying to work to make the game better.</DIV>

[Andre]

<DIV>Agree. What we need a "luck vitaity"... That i used for drops or forages ( or different for both of them )... With maximal Luck chances to get Rare ( possible also mystical) could be 1/100 . And every rol on this chance will drop them. This will help causal player and push bots even more out of game.</DIV>

[IsmeldaLasomb]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Andre Z wrote:<BR> <DIV>Agree. What we need a "luck vitaity"... That i used for drops or forages ( or different for both of them )... With maximal Luck chances to get Rare ( possible also mystical) could be 1/100 . And every rol on this chance will drop them. This will help causal player and push bots even more out of game.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>As funny as it is this could effectivly work. A potential of luck <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I like this idea. Not as raw as is though because if you just need to camp for a bit to get your luck back then you will see no difference for botters.</P> <P>More something you can earn buy doing certains actions that botters will have difficulty to achieve, like a successfull raid giving you some luck you can spend after on harvesting.</P> <P>Definitly an idea to develop <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[rul]

The idea of the foraging vitaly is really good. i think too Devs should work this way.

[Kyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rulio wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hello There,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, i want to report something good on a side , but something really bad on the other.</DIV> <DIV>First the good :</DIV> <DIV>- well this is perfect that SoE finally made something about the foraging bots . at least you can now harvest any kind of harvestable , and not only roots, as it was the case a month ago.</DIV> <DIV>Now the bad :</DIV> <DIV>-No more Ebon cluster for sale for exemple. or yes maybe one .... at 5 plat. well . cool .Since you remooved bots , Ebon price have climb. so it s now even more hard to get some for questing (reference for the post about it). Well how happy i am , now i ll defenitly not be able to finish my bone bladed claymore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>What you are never happy? Either you want bots & = lower rare prices .. or you dont want bots & deal with the high prices of a RARE item.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>-No more armorer and even less weapons crafter using ebon : why someone would pay 5 or 6 plat or even more to get something that can be easely outpowered by a questing item ? : curiously  i saw the same pristine imbued ebon forged warhammer since 3 weeks for sale, and nobody looks like interested (at 3plat).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>Dont know what server you are on, but ebon weapons are 2pp on my server. And if you can get a weapon better then pristine imbued ebon, then stop complaining, dont buy the ebon wepaon, and do the quest.  </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>Now it s true that others rare T5 harvestables looks like not becoming inflated, but even they are less and less for sale.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>So like i said before, you want bots? or you want rare items to actually be Rare?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>Now i think that SoE could make Something INTELLIGENT and very SIMPLE : just increases drop rate of rare, and insted of being something like 1/10000 to get one , put it at 1/100, so this way normal players will not have to play like "Bots" to finally get one of thoose [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] harvestable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>Guess they should be called "uncommon" instead of "Rare" then? I have a pristine imued ebon weapon, and still need 2 ebons for my armor, but im not sitting here complaing about not finding an ebon......thats the point of it being rare. </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-thanks for listening to me .</DIV> <DIV>- Of course dev team will not read this, or just laugh at it as usual.</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S.: just a question , Will someday the DEV TEAM WILL WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE THAN NERFING ? you know like just listening to player feedback and trying to work to make the game better.</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>I think in the last few pathes they HAVE listened to people complainging who are never happy...offline sellings, mail, food/drink not going away when you die, etc etc etc</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>You just think they dont listen because they dont do everything for people who are NEVER happy anyway. </FONT></STRONG></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Evilshade]

I saw this foraging bot today on najena server named pocket I followed it arround and watched it bot.  It never once spoke it would sit still until a node was close go to farm it then on to the next one if was in range.  This is pathetic the character name was Pocket I hope the devs can do something about this type of botting since as it goes far beyond crafting now.  It sickens me that people can actually do this sort of thing now.  Devs destroy this account with the character named pocket a gm can follow this guy around and clearly see its a farm  node bot.

[Crotal]

<P>You should post that on our Najena server forum as well, so others can look for and report this characters behavior.</P> <P> </P> <P>What zone were they in?</P>

[Wurm]

<P>What makes someone who loves to harvest = bot?</P> <P>Somedays when I am frustrated with questing I do nothing but Harvest. And I harvest EVERYTHING I SEE! I don't ninja others but I harvest every node I see including the fungus.</P> <P>I get a rush from every node that I find that might give me a rare or uncommon just for that very reason, And the fungus I give to my guildies who are tradeskilling the Alchemist profession.</P> <P>So maybe pockets is a "bot" or maybe hes fed up from questing/fighting/dieing earlier in the day and is playing the harvest lottery to enjoy himself.</P>

[Evadne]

Mm, yeah.  Just because someone is harvesting all afternoon they are a bot? I love harvesting.  It is the best part of provisioning.  Maybe I am just weird. ~Eva <div></div>

[Erendil]

<DIV>I may have misunderstood, but I believe the post regarding the bot mentioned that the alleged bot was not moving at all until a node came within a certain distance. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I harvest a lot too, but I dont stand in 1 place for  long periods of time waitng for nodes to spawn right next to me.</DIV>

[Wurm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Erendil wrote:<BR> <DIV>I may have misunderstood, but I believe the post regarding the bot mentioned that the alleged bot was not moving at all until a node came within a certain distance. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Then hes not a very motivated or for that matter very good "Harvesting Bot" now is he?</DIV>

[TopHatJon]

<DIV>Why don't we just give everyone full sets of rare armor and jewlery and call it a day? :smileyindifferent:</DIV>

[BlackHa]

I reject any notion of linking harvesting luck with raid success. Luck vitality is inclusive and preferred (as opposed to linking harvesting to raids which can be exclusive). There are those that still clamor to make this game exclusive. SOE knows better and the game has moved away from the concept since launch.

[rul]

<P>In Reply to what you said Kyriel. </P> <P>1: if Rare forage don t come more common , YES i want bot to still exist.</P> <P>2: I will really fast moove to your server to buy some ebon, looks like you could get some very cheap</P> <P>3: ebon weapons = worst than an iron dagger : i got a withered totem of the windershin for use and i love it</P> <P>4: i m playing soe games and Everquest since some years now, and from my experience, what soe gives you from a hand , it will take it back from the other.</P> <P>5: how much do SoE pay you too post ? if you just post to ague against and not to try construct some inteligent solution to the problem, then don't post.</P> <P>Thank you.</P> <P>P.S. : Sorry to everybody about my english i may write it badly sometimes</P>

[rul]

PS: and i wasn t exactly complaining about how rare ebon is to get some to make it craft, but what really is hurting me is that i cannot complete a quest because of "rare".

[Efour EQ2]

<DIV>No way forget this Vitality for harvesting thats rubbish, the average lvl 50 player has next to nothing to do other than Harvest or wait for a Raid size force to form.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>what is the point of harvesting with no vitality? if u know u can just sit there and wait then harvest and have a hugely inflated chance of finding the rare.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>why are u people that dont have it so obbsesed with getting it so fast right now right there.  why do u want everything handed to you on a plate,  Getting your ebon armour and stuff together is the final step to replacing it with Raid items.  dont nerf this game down even more because of a few whiners.  work for your ebon, kill a few raid mobs or named ^^s with your guild, u will soon get equiped.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>grrr ill be upset if they nerf this too, 1st they destroyed my tradeskill, and now talk of destroying harvesting, one of the other things i actual enjoy in the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dont u think its fun to just go out there not knowing what you will get? its one of the only unpredictable things in this bloody game right now.</DIV>

[Kyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rulio wrote:<BR> <P>In Reply to what you said Kyriel. </P> <P>1: if Rare forage don t come more common , YES i want bot to still exist.</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>!? You have a bot who goes around harvesting? isnt that illigal?</FONT></P> <P>2: I will really fast moove to your server to buy some ebon, looks like you could get some very cheap</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Cheap? That's pricey -- besdies, try raiding, we got 3 ebons in a chest from King Zalek, and a rare t5 cloth</FONT></P> <P>3: ebon weapons = worst than an iron dagger : i got a withered totem of the windershin for use and i love it</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>mmhmmm k</FONT></P> <P>4: i m playing soe games and Everquest since some years now, and from my experience, what soe gives you from a hand , it will take it back from the other.</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>good for you/them?</FONT></P> <P>5: how much do SoE pay you too post ? if you just post to ague against and not to try construct some inteligent solution to the problem, then don't post.</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>I did post for a reason, saying that rares should not be more common, otherwise they would be "uncommon" instead of RARE. </FONT></P> <P>Thank you.</P> <P>P.S. : Sorry to everybody about my english i may write it badly sometimes</P> <P><A href="http://www.english-at-home.com/" target=_blank>http://www.english-at-home.com/</A></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Solaran_X]

<P>The one thing Blizzard did with Diablo 2 was the modifying ability characters could have to get better drops from named mobs (I ran a 88 Fire Sorceress with 732% Magic Find). Prehaps something like that could be available to characters after, say, reaching the 20th Artisan level. Get a trait that lets you find rares more often in any node of a particular skill class (Fishing, Mining, Gathering, and Foresting).</P> <P>That would encourage being an Artisan, it would leave the "unneeded" (by you) rares at the same rate, and would drop the harvesting rate of the rares you "need".</P>