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WindintheWillo
04-06-2005, 06:15 PM
<DIV>as a level 49 warden, i honestly find myself to be an effective tho in no way overpowered healer.  in a grp i am constantly casting:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TWO regens on the tank </DIV> <DIV>various spot heals</DIV> <DIV>snares</DIV> <DIV>rebuffing the 15 min timer buffs (3 of them)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i usually need help from others in grp who can heal if its a really tough mob, otherwise im ok.  i must be extremely careful with how much i am casting...  if im spamming heals i end up dead.  if it happens to be MORE than one encounter....  i better have a grp that loves me cause the second i cast a heal.... that added encounter grp is gonna be all over me.  either the tank has to start switching targets (which upsets everyone) or the offtank has to get em off me..... which ends up getting me agro cause now im HoT'ing two tanks... or worse yet a tank and a rangah hehe.  i also spend a ton of cash on the best drink i can get my hands on to reduce down time between encounters.... i use a ton of mana especially if im casting direct heals rather than HoT's.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>as for soloing....  i'm a joke.  i can get the job done.... but it takes me a LONG time to kill even grey mobs cause my mana runs out and i have close to zero dps.  so im usually sitting there whacking away at something, waiting for enough mana to cast again,  when a friend runs by and laughs (actually we both do!).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>wardens are a very fun class imo, but they are tricky to play.  i try to make sure my tank is at least a couple of levels above me (which really isnt an option anymore) to make sure they have more taunting ability that will offset my high agro.  until i was level 45 or so i was jokingly referred to as "agro queen".  now i regularly grp with people who know whats gonna happen and can work to counter it.  they know to taunt their butts off and they know to watch out for mobs on me....  with a grp like that i can be a good MH as long as i dont have to use my big heals TOO much.  they eat so much mana i cant really cast em often.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>that said....  the VERY best grps im ever in are with templars/inquisitors.  together, a warden/fury plus templar/inquisitor can heal, debuff, watch out for each other, keep the grp healed and have a hell of alot of fun doing it.   i love playing this subclass simply because it IS a challenge...  but if it were nerfed any more it might become a constant nail biter to play and therefore no fun.</DIV>

WindintheWillo
04-06-2005, 06:17 PM
<DIV>this should be in the patch#7 please respectfully leave wardens alone thread</DIV>

mkronos
04-06-2005, 07:00 PM
<P>heh what are you *$%#&!ing about your class was left ungimped try a swashbuckler they got to be the most gimped class out there  sure pre 30 u can dps solo 2 up blues but as u get up in lvls things change u can no longer solo a wet papor bag the dps is cut so much your more a back up class with [Removed for Content] 20 sec single target  mess are u a chanter no single target 20 sec ant gonna do  any thing but hold off a mob and cant even do that well then the dps and armor factor any thing thats not grey to your will rip through you  even the mighty imbued ebon armor dont seem to help then and lets talk about the group smuggle why does swashy  get the highest run speed reducer looking at the fury no run speed reducer chanters same brig get a run speed reducer but it ant in no way near the 29 % a master 1 swashy spell is i say give then back the dps and atleat make it to we can solo again at 50 and im not talking the green solo mobs that u cant find or drop what is a waist of your time to mess with  fix the runspeeds do somthing other then kicking this class down </P> <P> </P> <P>fix the classes that are really gimped by soe  befor u go gimping more classes out there </P> <P>sighned a disopointed swasy </P> <P> </P>

Raman
04-06-2005, 07:06 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mkronos wrote:<BR> <P>heh what are you *$%#&!ing about your class was left ungimped try a swashbuckler they got to be the most gimped class out there  sure pre 30 u can dps solo 2 up blues but as u get up in lvls things change u can no longer solo a wet papor bag the dps is cut so much your more a back up class with [Removed for Content] 20 sec single target  mess are u a chanter no single target 20 sec ant gonna do  any thing but hold off a mob and cant even do that well then the dps and armor factor any thing thats not grey to your will rip through you  even the mighty imbued ebon armor dont seem to help then and lets talk about the group smuggle why does swashy  get the highest run speed reducer looking at the fury no run speed reducer chanters same brig get a run speed reducer but it ant in no way near the 29 % a master 1 swashy spell is i say give then back the dps and atleat make it to we can solo again at 50 and im not talking the green solo mobs that u cant find or drop what is a waist of your time to mess with  fix the runspeeds do somthing other then kicking this class down </P> <P> </P> <P>fix the classes that are really gimped by soe  befor u go gimping more classes out there </P> <P>sighned a disopointed swasy </P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Punctuation is for everyone!

mkronos
04-06-2005, 07:10 PM
<P>who care about .?! and gramor this ant no spelling be  or >?.! contest  the point is fix them now matter how its spelled or relayed the point  in with u are missing is </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>FIX FIX FIX FIX the be gimped class </P> <P> </P> <P>go check the spellings and .?1 in the newpapor if u ant got nothing else to do</P>

Quai Chan Ka
04-06-2005, 07:29 PM
I agree with u wind playing a warden is tough enough as it is from what u described,  hope they boost your class after this patch goes live, wardens rock!

bloa
04-07-2005, 04:45 AM
<DIV>I think SOE did a GREAT job with Wardens they deserve to be left untouched and labled as "perfection" by the DEVs.  As for the other classes that do need fixing and adjusting,  especially swashbuckler, please take a look at those.  I quit my swashbuckler and started a Warden because of their lack of dps,  etc,  etc.  and have been worshiping my Warden ever since.  So please do not NERF Wardens. =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Once again GREAT WORK DEVS!</DIV> <DIV>THANK YOU SOE!</DIV>

prisoner
04-07-2005, 03:16 PM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>mkronos wrote:<p>who care about .?! and gramor this ant no spelling be  or >?.! contest  the point is fix them now matter how its spelled or relayed the point  in with u are missing is </p> <p>FIX FIX FIX FIX the be gimped class </p> <p>go check the spellings and .?1 in the newpapor if u ant got nothing else to do</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote> I care.  I'm sure many others do,  possibly even the dev's who read this.  If it makes my eyes hurt to even look at your disaster of a post,  I probably am going to skip it.  Keep that in mind for when you want to get your opinions and points across.  17</span><div></div>

Big Da
04-07-2005, 03:53 PM
<DIV>I remember one of the Devs mentioning live patch 7 will inivolve reducing the healing powers of one of the classes and helping out the others. I forget which class it was though.</DIV>