Enchanter Feedback

[Andari]

<DIV>Entchanter is unnessesary</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Because the Bard with his spell has tooo much Mana regeneration. Have more DMG, and more armor class.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So i think nerf the Bard, or push up breez from Enchanter....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Greetz Lapis</DIV>

[Miral]

<DIV>enchanters are far from underpowered... they can solo far better than any other class... And crowd control rocks.</DIV>

[Brash]

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#cc00ff size=2>OP is calling for the nerf of another class?  Do you even think before you post?</FONT></DIV>

[Sci]

<DIV>" they can solo far better than any other class... "</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think you need a reality check. Enchanters have the potential to solo certain group mobs that others may or may not be able to do in very specific situations.  That is the ONLY advantage enchanters have as far as solo goes.  When it comes to soloing for xp, we're one of the worst solo classes out there due to the unreliability of root and the long period of time it takes to kill a mob without a reliable root as a caster.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As far as whether enchanters are underpowered, if you're comparing to the wiz/warlocks of the world then yes we are massively underpowered, but then again so is pretty much everyone else.  We're closer to priests than mages at higher levels. :/</DIV>

[Andari]

<DIV>yes i think when i post but its real breez is on lvl 25 only [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so if you want search a group on live server is realy hard to find a group cause your POT is to lame...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>you where always replaced by a dirg or a troubadour</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Andi</DIV>

[yoddamomma]

<DIV>I love my enchanter :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[Andari]

<DIV>I agree with you but i want to power up the soloing play becaus the Enchanter is in first place a Group char... the Troub or Dirge is not only a group char. so they had a lot more of AC and a lot more of dmg. and the spell i dont know at time yet it comes about lvl 30.. for new Power reg... i think so the enchanters must be have a new power red.... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>maybe as a additional thred.... or a new spell with lvl 30.2 or 30 .8....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So i think no one else will play it... but the mezz of it is realy nice... so i think its not well, to underpower the enchanter.. he is one of the most importand chars in high lvl group.. so i think.. its not good when he is in lower lvls underpowered... and nobody wants to play with him.. so he cant gain some xp.. and the lvling goes to boring with him.. and soooo nobody wants to play him....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>greetz andi</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sci]

<DIV>This isn't really the right forum for this discussion...</DIV>

[Andari]

<DIV>is the right forum cause i want test it when Breez is more powerfull</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Miral]

<DIV>This is for feedback of currently tested changes, not wishlists though..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, its not worth it for pretty much any class to solo for xp anymore, so thats pretty much a moot point. The thing is enchanters can solo high con group mobs, which is usually what you see on quests. And oh yeah, quests give xp too <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> even more after these last updates <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Aery]

<DIV> <DIV>Slight correction, Illusionist can solo high con group mobs, not all enchanters. Illusionist get a mez that can be cast while running allowing them to mez kite high con group ^^ mobs , a coercer (the other form of enchanter) does not have this ability and will die very fast to even a green con group mob in most cases.</DIV></DIV>

[SunT]

<DIV>I have to respectfully disaggree about the solo ability of the Illusionist.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I mothballed mine a month and a half ago due to the inability to solo anything but solo mobs.  Solo mobs do not currently drop the same value drops as group mobs and do not privide the same exp per hour as green group mobs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I spent three solid days trying strategies to solo various green group mobs in TS and did not kill one.  That is when I mothballed him.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Most if not all other classes have the ability to solo more efficiently than Illusionists.  I have seen some proposed changes to solo exp and loot.  Perhaps after this goes into effect I will try agian.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Chanter line, though neccessary in many group situations remains a broken class IMO.  It is extremely difficult to level at sub 30 levels.  Drink is better than breeze.  The Chanter can be replaced with a second healer or high dps.  I think they need to bring back the EQ1 Runes for Chanters to help them thru the lower levels. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Post 30 I hear it is better.  The issue is you must be grouped to make any real exp prior to that point.  Sub 30 groups normally do not want a chanter.  If you get a group that wants you you can rest assured that only half of the group will even understand your merit in the group and only one half will understand what spells they can cannot use in order to work with your CC abilities. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I leveled from 17 to 26 in 39 days with my Chanter.  I did it in 12 with my Pally.  The primary difference was the Chanter had Down time when he was not grouped where the pally was able to gain exp during the lfg time.  Both were played nearly the same amount of time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is a frustrating life.  I think the biggest problem is it isn't very much fun to play the class.  Too much work, to much frustration for too little gain.  </DIV>

[Miral]

<DIV>hehe you can respectfully disaagree all ya want, but I''ve seen an illusionist take on an orange ^ ^, heh... Also seen a coercer take on a yellow ^ ^</DIV>

[SunT]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Miral wrote:<BR> <DIV>hehe you can respectfully disaagree all ya want, but I''ve seen an illusionist take on an orange ^ ^, heh... Also seen a coercer take on a yellow ^ ^</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>And what level were they?</P> <P>The point is the difficulty in leveling the toon.  There is NO way one my level can.  I will pay real life money to see a 26 solo a 28 ^^.  It simply will not happen.  I found it exceedingly difficult to get a green ^^ below 50%.  This is after trying non stop for hours, many tactics and many diff mobs.  Can it be done...possibly, cna it be done efficiently...no way.</P> <P>With the huge amount of new solo content this may be less os an issue.  Time will tell.</P>

[Miral]

<DIV>heh you should try a necro... at level 25 have troubles with solo greens and blues...</DIV>