I think we may need warning as to when the new tradeskill changes will go live

[SavinDwa]

<DIV>I know there are always going to be some exploiters.  But there is no reason why honest players should suffer.  The reasons why I think everyone should get at least 48 hours warning is as follows:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1) Players in the middle of doing a workshop task were doing it thinking that they were going to get paid a certain amount at the end of the process.  Now they may get a lot less [of course it could end up being more <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />].  A player may have used almost all there cash flow making the items work a work order.  It would be very unfair to them to lose tons of money.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) Fuel.  Its not a big cost at the moment, but everyone shoudl get a chance to use up their inventory if they want.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3) Everyone whomhas stuff already made should be given the chance to sell it at the old prices.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sure there are oterh examples.  But the key is not to hurt the 95% of honest crafters just to stop a few numnuts from finding a loophole and making some money.  If you can think of a way to nerf them in the process .. go for it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by SavinDwarf on <span class=date_text>02-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:24 AM</span>

[Jhaan-Kre]

<DIV>its gone live, looking at my downloads <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[ripthisjoi]

too late for that, it is LIVE NOWWoot!

[Miral]

<DIV>And so the world turns, bringing with it another stroke of the pendulum, another problem for mankind to face, another fix that is too little, too late. The apocalypse has already come, and our creators are just feeding the fire with their sticks of nerfiness...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ok, overexagerating just a tad perhaps.</DIV> <DIV>wheel of morality turn turn turn...</DIV>

[Raven DarkSto]

<DIV><FONT size=1>What part of there are still problems on test is hard to understand!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1>This is the sloppiest QA on a test server I have ever seen, they made more adjustments on test last night and STILL push this update out this morning.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1>Not to mention, that as I try to log on to Mistmoore, I get the error message "World Mistmoore cannot be found".  [Removed for Content], if this breaks the servers again with another poorly tested and ill conceived patch then SOE truly deserves any loss of business that follows.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1>And before we get all the fanboi flames, I have been programming in several environments over the years (22 years in the field to be exact) and supervising others who do, and if anyone that worked for me put a patch out for other than a critical, system down issue with this disregard for the other known problems with it, they would find themselves looking for a job that very afternoon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV>

[Day]

<DIV>Oh where oh where are my update notes?<BR> <BR>Oh where oh where can they be?<BR> <BR>I looked on the boards and I looked elsewhere<BR> <BR>Oh where oh where can they be?<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>This message brought to you by a player that is anxiously awaiting the full update notes on the live server. <BR> <BR>My name is Dayln Grimm and I approved this message.<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Ubertakt]

<P> <HR> </P> <P>Miral wrote: ... wheel of morality turn turn turn...</P> <P> <HR> </P> <P>Tell us the lesson we should learn.</P> <P>Perhaps it is that changes get tested on live servers.  But can you blame them?  As I understand it the test server isn't exactly reality due to it's low population.</P>

[Day]

<DIV>That is true.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thay have no choice but to do wide spread tests on the live servers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Some people take this all too seriously, I play for fun.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So far I am having a blast.</DIV>

[aeio]

<blockquote><hr>SavinDwarf wrote:<DIV>I know there are always going to be some exploiters. But there is no reason why honest players should suffer. The reasons why I think everyone should get at least 48 hours warning is as follows:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>1) Players in the middle of doing a workshop task were doing it thinking that they were going to get paid a certain amount at the end of the process. Now they may get a lot less [of course it could end up being more <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />]. A player may have used almost all there cash flow making the items work a work order. It would be very unfair to them to lose tons of money.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>2) Fuel. Its not a big cost at the moment, but everyone shoudl get a chance to use up their inventory if they want.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>3) Everyone whomhas stuff already made should be given the chance to sell it at the old prices.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I'm sure there are oterh examples. But the key is not to hurt the 95% of honest crafters just to stop a few numnuts from finding a loophole and making some money. If you can think of a way to nerf them in the process .. go for it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by SavinDwarf on <span class=date_text>02-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:24 AM</span><hr></blockquote>If you were concerned about the impact of an upcoming change on test, then you should have taken care of your business as soon as you identified a concern. When patches get to test, it is only a matter of time before they go live. Consider that your warning to take advantage of something one last time. Behind that, proceed at your own risk.