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Byzanth
01-08-2006, 12:09 AM
<div></div><div></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/"><font color="#fefeff">EverQuest II</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archives"><font color="#fefeff">The Archives</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archivedboards"><font color="#fefeff">Archived Forums</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=22"><font color="#fefeff">Sorcerer Class</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span><span class="navbar_text">Re: Eye of Zomm..... ?</span></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Looks like this was pulled from EQ2 before release.</font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">I'm thinking this would be a great edition to our tool-box for us movie producers for cool camera shots that would in turn help promote the wonderful Eye Candy that Everquest 2 has to offer.</font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Wouldn't it be great if you could get Close-ups on Raid Mobs or be able to hover above a battle or Scoot across water and get shots you normally cant get?... </font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">The limitations are endless. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Thoughts?  Anyone Else want this?</font></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Byzanthei on <span class="date_text">01-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:11 AM</span></p>

Pokar
01-08-2006, 02:15 AM
Eye of Zomm was cool. I had it in EQ1. I make movies in EQ2 and it would be very nice to have.<div></div>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 02:23 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Byzanthei wrote:<div></div><div></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/"><font color="#fefeff">EverQuest II</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archives"><font color="#fefeff">The Archives</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archivedboards"><font color="#fefeff">Archived Forums</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=22"><font color="#fefeff">Sorcerer Class</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span><span class="navbar_text">Re: Eye of Zomm..... ?</span></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Looks like this was pulled from EQ2 before release.</font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">I'm thinking this would be a great edition to our tool-box for us movie producers for cool camera shots that would in turn help promote the wonderful Eye Candy that Everquest 2 has to offer.</font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Wouldn't it be great if you could get Close-ups on Raid Mobs or be able to hover above a battle or Scoot across water and get shots you normally cant get?... </font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">The limitations are endless. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><div><font color="#99ff00"></font> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Thoughts?  Anyone Else want this?</font></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Byzanthei on <span class="date_text">01-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:11 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>well, that wouldnt be a problem really if you actually raid the raid mobs, but the idea is nifty.

Byzanth
01-08-2006, 03:31 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div><blockquote><p><span class="time_text"></span></p>well, that wouldnt be a problem really if you actually raid the raid mobs, but the idea is nifty.<hr></blockquote></blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00">I've raided raid mobs and seen lots of other content from raid mobs (including yours)... Since all the raiders are generally "Pinned" in combat, have jobs to perform and can't move around too much... It's almost ALWAYS the same jittery Circular camera shots for an "Up Close" of the raid mob.  Leaves us stuck with Doing our best with those Shots and using Screenshots and other Video tools to make it more interesting.</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">Just think this would be another great tool to make our job a bit more flexible as directors... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></p><p> </p>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 05:09 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Byzanthei wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div><blockquote><p><span class="time_text"></span></p>well, that wouldnt be a problem really if you actually raid the raid mobs, but the idea is nifty.<hr></blockquote></blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00">I've raided raid mobs and seen lots of other content from raid mobs (including yours)... Since all the raiders are generally "Pinned" in combat, have jobs to perform and can't move around too much... It's almost ALWAYS the same jittery Circular camera shots for an "Up Close" of the raid mob.  Leaves us stuck with Doing our best with those Shots and using Screenshots and other Video tools to make it more interesting.</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">Just think this would be another great tool to make our job a bit more flexible as directors... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></p><p> </p><hr></blockquote><p>Or....</p><p>Dont worry about the raid mob, and just worry about getting shots? Yeah you might have seen the fountain of life video, but you havent seen my guild trailer yet :smileyhappy:</p><p>Also, about the water views, ride a griffon or carpet. np.</p>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 07:17 AM
<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>You know, I really don't see the NEED to have it, for getting good scenes in everquest 2. Anything that you use the eye for, you can do it yourself.</div><div> </div><div>Hover above battle scenes? --> Change your view.</div><div>Scoot accross water? --> Griffon/Carpet. If you want it slower, slow down your video in your editer.</div><div>Close up of Raid mobs, or different Views --> Get in 1st person view and go where you want.</div><div>----------->> Dont give me that excuse "we have jobs to preform" because, if you use your eye in a raid to get scenes, you are moving your eye around and getting a pretty scene, instead of preforming your job, which.... you could have moved yourself. Unless you... want to auto attack i guess.</div><div>(<a target="_blank" href="http://files.filefront.com/Barakahwmv/;4579634;;/fileinfo.html"><font color="#ff6699">Here</font></a> is an example with a very bad day with Barakah. Moving around and yada yada. See how I am trying to get different views? sorta. This is one of the worst footages I have of her, yet it still has some different views than the circlish stuff when your attacking from the behind. Yeh, I died, but so what? Just a lil repair of 9 gold dont hurt anything.)</div><div> </div><div>edit: heck you can even see it in my gbye video i made in augest. moving around in 1st person view. It aint limited to teh locked circlish view.</div><div> </div><div>Just think. Its not hard to get 90% of the views you want.</div><div> </div><div>The only case that I can see this eye of zomm being some what nifty, is wanting to record your character, and move to the left or right or wahtever with the eye, and your character just stanidng there, not moving. but in YOUR case, you dont need it. You have your 2nd account <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But even so, that is so easy to do in your video editer, lol. Just record your character standing there and make a movement from left-> right. And even stretch out the movement length on the right and left side of your character if you want it to seem longer /shrug it takes 2 seconds.</div><div> </div><div>Anywhere your eye can go, you can go. Unless the eye can go verticle without viewing down also (which once again  you can get this effect in your video editer, just record yourself, and movement: down-> up. np)..... and Unless its a tiney itsy bitsy hole <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>There is no difference.</div><p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by Zemfira on <span class="date_text">01-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:59 PM</span></p>

odellp
01-08-2006, 09:32 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Byzanthei wrote:<div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/"><font color="#fefeff">EverQuest II</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archives"><font color="#fefeff">The Archives</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2?category.id=archivedboards"><font color="#fefeff">Archived Forums</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=22"><font color="#fefeff">Sorcerer Class</font></a><span class="navbar_sep">:</span><span class="navbar_text">Re: Eye of Zomm..... ?</span></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Looks like this was pulled from EQ2 before release.</font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">I'm thinking this would be a great edition to our tool-box for us movie producers for cool camera shots that would in turn help promote the wonderful Eye Candy that Everquest 2 has to offer.</font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Wouldn't it be great if you could get Close-ups on Raid Mobs or be able to hover above a battle or Scoot across water and get shots you normally cant get?... </font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">The limitations are endless. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff00">Thoughts?  Anyone Else want this?</font></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Byzanthei on <span class="date_text">01-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:11 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I guess the only close thing is given to all mages at level 5 is,Bind Sight</span>An augmentation that grants the mage the ability to see through the eyes of target ally. This augmentation breaks if the mage enters combat.I rarely use this on my pet, I target a far off NPC and have it attack that target, I can then see from my pets point of view from where it starts all the way to the target.<div></div>

Byzanth
01-08-2006, 09:39 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>You know, I really don't see the NEED to have it, for getting good scenes in everquest 2. Anything that you use the eye for, you can do it yourself.</div><div> </div><hr></blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00">Consider that Carpets nor Horses don't float on water. And Griffons/ Travel Carpets always follow the same path.</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">Also don't you wish you could get some better shots without getting Aggro from the mob first?  .  Looks like the footage of the raid mob you had from your DoF raid only was from a distance before engagement.</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">Like I said,   I along with one other person, we would like to have a little more flexibility with the camera. (Imagine a shot of the raid party gathering over the shoulder of the raid mob)</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">I've seen your footage of the Raid content, Experienced the same in Raid Zones and I would Rather have some more options to capture the "Eye Candy" that this game has to offer with Something like the Eye of Zomm.  Why should you have to use an Editor to Capture Stills, Dress them up to make things more interesting?  Imagine the possiblities with a "Camera Eye" moving in all 3 dimensions....</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">Sure you can have a 2nd account to do your camera work (After Engagement)... But why not make it easier so the players of this fine game full of wonderful content can be shown off a little better?</font></p>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 05:37 PM
<div>Well, that is just being lazy. If you really really really wanted a certain scene. You can do it. Starting monday, I will get a better footage for you and show you :smileyvery-happy:</div><div>I just put all my raid footage on a cd, so i can focus on my current project.</div><div> </div><div>And as far as griffons/carpets ...</div><div>Why not take the carpet one way, then go back the other way, and then take the other option, and then go back, How many scenes of water will you have? plenty.</div><div> </div><div>You can even record your character in 3rd person view and record the land viewing from the ocean and just edit out your character.</div><div> </div><div>Dont be lazy, lol. Like i said if you wanted a certain scene, you can do it.</div>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 05:40 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Byzanthei wrote:<div></div><p><font color="#99ff00">Also don't you wish you could get some better shots without getting Aggro from the mob first?  .  Looks like the footage of the raid mob you had from your DoF raid only was from a distance before engagement.</font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">I've seen your footage of the Raid content, Experienced the same in Raid Zones and I would Rather have some more options to capture the "Eye Candy" that this game has to offer with Something like the Eye of Zomm. </font></p><p></p><hr><p>Also like I said that is one of the worst footages I have of barakah, and all the rest are on CD and i dont quite feel like getting them right now.</p></blockquote>

Byzanth
01-08-2006, 10:09 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div><blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00"></font></p><p></p><p>Also like I said that is one of the worst footages I have of barakah, and all the rest are on CD and i dont quite feel like getting them right now.</p><hr></blockquote></blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00">ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">I am just throwing a suggestion out.  I know that we can get some pretty cool shots if we work at it.   Just would like to see more options.   That's all.</font> </p>

Kyriel
01-08-2006, 11:43 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Byzanthei wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div><blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00"></font></p><p></p><p>Also like I said that is one of the worst footages I have of barakah, and all the rest are on CD and i dont quite feel like getting them right now.</p><hr></blockquote></blockquote><p><font color="#99ff00">ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </font></p><p><font color="#99ff00">I am just throwing a suggestion out.  I know that we can get some pretty cool shots if we work at it.   Just would like to see more options.   That's all.</font> </p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh, I know, I dont mean to sound like I am attacking you, I am just trying to give you more ideas really on how to get the shots you want, without the eye of zomm, because, looking at our reality, we dont have it, yet.</p>