Armor Tinting Experiment

[Hazdrubel]

<div></div><div></div>In all likelihood tinting will not look like this, but just a what if. First  chainmail touched up with some color here and there...nothing fancy.  Changed out a gold version of the polished/Fabled plate with one that has 4 versions.  Swapped out one large screenshot of the blue fulginate color for 4 colored versions of fulginate.  Also added some full colored versions of chainmail similar to what is being seen now coming in game. <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/880/692.jpg"> Chainmail dye: <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/888/736.jpg"> 4 color fulginate: <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/888/387.jpg"> 4 polished/fabled shots.  Standard being the in-game untouched version for comparison. <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/886/277.jpg"> Black carbonite: <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/880/840.jpg"> (edited for screenshot change) <div></div><p>Message Edited by Hazdrubel on <span class="date_text">10-05-2005</span> <span class="time_text">03:57 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Hazdrubel on <span class="date_text">10-05-2005</span> <span class="time_text">04:03 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Hazdrubel on <span class="date_text">10-07-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:13 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Hazdrubel on <span class="date_text">10-07-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:17 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Hazdrubel on <span class=date_text>10-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:53 PM</span>

[Atmosphear1993]

<DIV>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</DIV>

[Aelona]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Hazdrubel wrote:<BR>In all likelihood tinting will not look like this, but just a what if.  Chain mail touched up with some color here and there...nothing fancy.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Wow...I wish my armor did look like that!!!  You did a great job on tinting!!!</DIV><p>Message Edited by Aelona on <span class=date_text>09-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:46 PM</span>

[Sinkat]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Atmosphear1993 wrote: <P>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ff3300></FONT> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3300>Totally true <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</FONT></DIV>

[Rorasis]

<div></div>It is amazing what simple tinting can do for armor.  That looks wonderful!  /sigh, now it makes me sad. edited for spelling! <div></div><p>Message Edited by Rorasis on <span class=date_text>10-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:28 AM</span>

[andersonim]

<P>Very Nice, i so wish they would do that. i really get tired of seeing the same old black ebon:[</P> <P> </P>

[Moralpanic]

<span><blockquote><hr>Atmosphear1993 wrote:<div></div> <div>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</div><hr></blockquote> Normally truths like these are funny because of how true they are... but in this case, it really is sad.  Tinting is not the most complicated, or resource intensive processes (CPU/GPU resources-wise), yet EQ2 is lacking in it soooo severely.  </span><div></div>

[Ashlian]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moralpanic wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Atmosphear1993 wrote:<BR> <DIV>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Normally truths like these are funny because of how true they are... but in this case, it really is sad.  Tinting is not the most complicated, or resource intensive processes (CPU/GPU resources-wise), yet EQ2 is lacking in it soooo severely.  <BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Totally agree, nor is tinting ROCKET SCIENCE! Even if they just gave us a basic 8 or 16 color palette so that we could tint our own armor in areas like you showed on the chain and fulginate, over the existing texture, that would be a huge improvement. Come on, devs, it's getting late in the game to keep us looking like we crawled out of a gutter or deserted the same army.</P> <P>Ashlian Liadan, 48 Fury, 32 Tailor of Mistmoore<BR></P>

[DarknessScyt]

WOW <span>:smileysurprised:</span> <div></div>

[TheRealDude]

<div></div>along the same lines: (monk in AQ armor <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) i kinda like the red and blue ones hehe <img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk1.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk2.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk3.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk6.jpg"> and some tinted ones <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk4.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk5.jpg"> <div></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:01 PM</span>

[Doylen]

The "Golden" armor is not different than the Parade armor you can buy at guild level 25 OR the T5 Fableds. I see nothing golden on it <div></div>

[TheRealDude]

its tinted golden not colored like my first 4 pics <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so the highlights are gold instead of silver. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>to tell the differance look at my last one in the top row and the second one on the bottom row ... both are the same color just one is using a "tint" filter and the other is "color" filter <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:55 AM</span>

[slowb]

are these photoshopped ? cause they look very real (ingame real) if they arent.. if they arent, how did you go about doing this ? <div></div>

[TheRealDude]

<DIV>well it was "photoshoped" but i didnt use photoshop <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> used fireworks, color and overlay and use the "color" filter so it only replaces the color of the item below it and not the luminosity or anything else. alternativly you can use the "tint" filter which is a lot lighter than "color" and keeps the bright areas white instead of changing them into the color.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>you can tell they are photoshoped expecialy by looking at the legs of the bottom pink one <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:48 AM</span>

[slowb]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheRealDude wrote:<div></div> <div>well it was "photoshoped" but i didnt use photoshop <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> used fireworks, color and overlay and use the "color" filter so it only replaces the color of the item below it and not the luminosity or anything else. alternativly you can use the "tint" filter which is a lot lighter than "color" and keeps the bright areas white instead of changing them into the color.</div> <div> </div> <div>you can tell they are photoshoped expecialy by looking at the legs of the bottom pink one <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class="date_text">10-05-2005</span> <span class="time_text">09:48 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>oh ok.. they do look kick [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] though.. and maybe thats why they wont add it.. because running filters in any kind of program does sweat your processor.. of course they could always add an option to disable it</span><div></div>

[TheRealDude]

<DIV>yes they would need 5 layers then not 4.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>they already have the base polygon with:</DIV> <DIV>bump mapping</DIV> <DIV>opacity</DIV> <DIV>texture</DIV> <DIV>glow mapping</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if they added the tint layer then the cards with only 4 texture units (IE the GeForce TI series and a lot of the older cards that work with EQ2 now) wouldnt work anymore unless they disable something. imo they should, instead of using opacity, just create seperate models for the different armor looks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>for an example if youll look on the left side of my monk's arm youll see a thin white line. this is left over after applying the opacity map to the polygon to make it look like it ends when in reality it covers my entire arm. this artifact is on several items such as the fog grimmith cap my Warlock is wearing in the picture below my post, almost any arm item that doesnt cover the whole arm, any pants that are cut shorter than normal, some of the leather pants with the short butt flaps <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, and a lot of other designs. so cutting out that one layer would allow them to add in tint without raising the requirments and it would help make the game look smoother.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and to the OP:</DIV> <DIV>i love the midnight one you added in for the status armor <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:23 PM</span>

[slowb]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheRealDude wrote:<div></div> <div>yes they would need 5 layers then not 4.</div> <div> </div> <div>they already have the base polygon with:</div> <div>bump mapping</div> <div>opacity</div> <div>texture</div> <div>glow mapping</div> <div> </div> <div>if they added the tint layer then the cards with only 4 texture units (IE the GeForce TI series and a lot of the older cards that work with EQ2 now) wouldnt work anymore unless they disable something. imo they should, instead of using opacity, just create seperate models for the different armor looks.</div> <div> </div> <div>for an example if youll look on the left side of my monk's arm youll see a thin white line. this is left over after applying the opacity map to the polygon to make it look like it ends when in reality it covers my entire arm. this artifact is on several items such as the fog grimmith cap my Warlock is wearing in the picture below my post, almost any arm item that doesnt cover the whole arm, any pants that are cut shorter than normal, some of the leather pants with the short butt flaps <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, and a lot of other designs. so cutting out that one layer would allow them to add in tint without raising the requirments and it would help make the game look smoother.</div> <div> </div> <div>and to the OP:</div> <div>i love the midnight one you added in for the status armor <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class="date_text">10-05-2005</span> <span class="time_text">03:23 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>people still use the geforce tis? i remember when having those was like being donald trump</span><div></div>

[TheRealDude]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>slowbus wrote: people still use the geforce tis? i remember when having those was like being donald trump<span></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>that was, what? like last year? i remember when having a <strike>calculator</strike> adding machine made you rich <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:32 PM</span>

[Hazdrubel]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheRealDude wrote:<div></div><div> </div> <div>and to the OP:</div> <div>i love the midnight one you added in for the status armor <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class="date_text">10-05-2005</span> <span class="time_text">03:23 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Thx.  Working with heavier tones does create an interesting look.  Really brings out every little detail in the armor.</span><div></div>

[Araxes]

The midnight armor looks awesome. To Petigue: Nice to find another Fireworks enthusiast.  There aren't enough of us.  We need to make the AwSuMnEsS of FW known to all.  =P  (For further example fellow readers: see my signature, done in Fireworks.) I think if I saw any monk wearing that bright purple I might have to cover my eyes.  This is one fear I have with allowing users to tint their own armor - or allowing crafters to do it.  Inevitably you will have people wearing the most garish schemes imaginable to mankind.  (i.e. bright purple and magenta or something else akin to a "Hello Kitty" purse).  lol <div></div>

[Hannalynn]

<div></div>Thought I would also share some of my armour tinting experiments here.. though not as cleancut as the OP I am in the feyiron plate for the first set, and the bruiser AQ for the 2nd: First off the original:                                                                                  Some brightening up for luster as well: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahsilver.jpg">                 <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahbright.jpg"> ====   Maybe some cobolt colouring:                                                              This gold turned out to be my favourite: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahcobalt.jpg">                <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahgold.jpg"> ==== More of a light and textured blue:                                                         And for those ladies who want to be a power ranger: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahhardblue.jpg">                <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahpink.jpg"> === Dusty light browne (my 2nd favourite):                                                w   t    f  ... .. no idea, I was tired: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahlightbrowne.jpg">               <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/susannahwtf.jpg"> ==== And here is the original of the bruiser in AQ1: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/original1.jpg"> == A summery golden colour: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dexgold01.jpg"> === Powderpuff blue: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dezblue01.jpg"> ==== My favourite and a dark sepia colour: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dezburnt01.jpg"> === A vile greene, but my friend decided he wanted to see greene: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dezgree01.jpg"> === some kind of orange juice orange: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dezorange01.jpg"> === blood red: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/dezred01.jpg"> ========== So in conclusion how long did this take?  Well honestlly selecting the pieces to dye took longer than dying... is this hard to code? Eh not really... I would really like to see some diversity in the armour... welld one to the other tintings here too edit: yay i can spell<p>Message Edited by Hannalynn on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:21 AM</span>

[Jindris]

How are you guys able to do this? I'd like to try it and see what I can come up with!

[Hannalynn]

well I did it by taking the images, outlining and selecting the various pieces I wanted to colour in Adobe Photoshop, putting them on a new layer and then either using Colour Effects (tm) or the Stain option in the blending effects to mess around with colouring, tinting and shading... its pretty easy.

[Panad]

Yup, definitely not hard to implement ingame - in fact it seems it already IS ingame. At character creation, choosing the colors for hair, skin, eyes, glyphes etc. and clothing(!) - it is ingame, they just need to extend it to every clothing item ingame. <div></div>

[TheRealDude]

<DIV>the two easiest ways i know if in Fireworks are to either cut out the armor pieces or do what i did and use a brush on a new layer and paint over them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>then take that and add a color fill effect to it and fill it with the color you want then change that layer to be either the "color" or "tint" filter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>using the same filters i took this image i got from ogaming:</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://68.51.43.174/paladin.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and colored it for use a sig i did recently:</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://68.51.43.174/paladin.colored.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://68.51.43.174/moto3.jpg"></DIV> <P>(yes i realize the colors arnt exactly the same but thats because i didnt save my final version of it before cutting and pasting into the sig heh.)</P><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:00 AM</span>

[Hazdrubel]

<span><blockquote><hr>Hannalynn wrote:<div></div>Thought I would also share some of my armour tinting experiments here.. though not as cleancut as the OP I am in the feyiron plate for the first set, and the bruiser AQ for the 2nd: <p>Message Edited by Hannalynn on <span class="date_text">10-06-2005</span> <span class="time_text">09:21 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Very, very nice.  Dont sell yourself short...those all look awesome.  Feyiron is tricky to work with in that the armor looks flat and has no depth to it.  Unlike some of the other armor suits where you can see glint, glare, and reflections in the metal - feyiron has no luster to it.  Almost looks as if the shine was sandblasted off.  <span>:smileyhappy:</span> The cobalt, white, and gold colored ones are my favorites.  The Bruiser AQ ones are all great.  Sadly, even if those color options were available - the outfit itself really isnt visible anymore in the game.  By the late 20s and on the majority of Brawlers are already wearing Light Armor pieces.  The dark sepia and blood red are my faves there. </span><div></div>

[grendel]

That midnight fabled gear is my exact mental picture of what I wanted T6 fabled plate to look like. Excellent job, I just wish little changes like this could be made in the game, I know tinting the armor cant require the amount of time they said creating new armor would. They just added blue tint to some of the chain armor yesterday, one of guildies looked very nice in it.

[Wilde_Night]

Hannalynn <DIV>I would love to see my Shadowknight in Black and Red armor, the colors of Shadow and Hate. LOL. I would create it myself, but my PC is still enroute from the move. It always looks odd to me that SK's and Paly's wear the same colored armor.</DIV>

[astawi]

<DIV>nice work done by all...all i can say is simply....We Need Do Have Color Diversity In Game!</DIV>

[Aelona]

<DIV>More!  Show us more!  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Magik01]

<FONT color=#cc66ff>Wow, all these look great!  Why can't we tint our armor like this in game? Grr...:smileymad:</FONT> 

[slyfer]

<DIV>I have to say the Midnight fabled one if Freekin Sweet</DIV>

[Hazdrubel]

<span><blockquote><hr>Aelona wrote:<div>More!  Show us more!  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>Ok.  I just swapped out the picture of the blue fulginate, and put a screenshot of fulginate in 4 colors.  There.  <span>:smileyhappy:</span></span><div></div>

[Hannalynn]

I made some new images of the Defiler AQ tinting.. thought you might like to see them ^_^ I'm having alot of fun with these heh, a nice break from sig making === Original:                                                                                                Almost a solid greene, keeping some depth <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/orig.jpg">          <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/green.jpg"> Some kind of fusion pink:                                                                 A washed out rusted browne <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/pink.jpg">          <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/greenbrown.jpg"> The colour said Lillac, but this looks more like light violet:      I call this one O .M  .GOrange <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/lilac.jpg">          <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/veryorange.jpg"> A deep violet:                                                                                      This is my favourite one... a rusty blue: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/violet.jpg">          <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/rustedblue.jpg"> Teal or aquamarine.. which is the more green?:                           And of course red <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/teals.jpg">             <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/red.jpg"> <div></div>

[Delameko Stone]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheRealDude wrote:<div></div>along the same lines: (monk in AQ armor <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) i kinda like the red and blue ones hehe <img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk1.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk2.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk3.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk6.jpg"> and some tinted ones <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk4.jpg"><img src="http://68.51.43.174/monk5.jpg"> <div></div><p>Message Edited by TheRealDude on <span class="date_text">10-04-2005</span> <span class="time_text">05:01 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote> <font size="7"><font color="#ccff00">D</font> - <font color="#ff0000">I</font> - <font color="#6633ff">S</font> - <font color="#cc0099">C</font> - <font color="#ccffff">O</font> - <font color="#ffccff">! <font color="#ffffff"><font size="3"> N</font></font><font color="#ffffff"><font size="3">orrath Top Of The Pops presents Bucks Fuzz reunion...</font></font> </font></font></span><div></div>

[Geohi]

Take notes devs, take notes. <div></div>

[Hannalynn]

Ok then I have got alot of request for some plate type armour so here is the Sea Salt Encrusted armour set I wear on my paladin right now Enjoy<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Original: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/orig.jpg"> Blue Tint / Blue Trim: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/Bluetrim.jpg"> Ebon Black: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/erblack.jpg"> Gold: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/gold.jpg"> Green: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/green.jpg"> Grey-blue: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/greyblue.jpg"> Light Brown: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/lightbrown.jpg"> Pink: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/pink.jpg"> Red (my favourite): <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/red.jpg"> Lambent Blue (for all you old school bards ; ) ): <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/shineyblue.jpg"> Coral: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/shineypink.jpg"> Teal: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/teal.jpg"> No idea what this is.. my cat ran across my keyboard while I was messing with a gradient box so here is my cats contribution: <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/wierd.jpg"> ========= Well there they are... I even made one of these into Illuci's bio and paper doll <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/illucipaper.jpg"> and <img src="http://www.cybershelob.org/images/eq2/tint/illuci/illucibio.jpg">  if anyone cares ; ) <div></div>

[6CrimsonTear]

I'm just not huge on the out-loud colors. The bright reds, pinks, etc...

[Doodm]

<DIV>Amazing</DIV>

[Doodm]

<DIV>(double post, sorry)</DIV><p>Message Edited by Doodmar on <span class=date_text>10-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:56 PM</span>

[Tadash]

<DIV>unless the art dept has figured out how to desaturate and retint on the fly you need to remember your color will be going over the original or 'base' color of the armor.  so light and/or muted tones will be ruined or at least muddied.   This is one of the problems presented in EQ1.  They'll need to either create armor skins that have no color or color over the top of the original.  I'd rather see them come up with a set of reasonable ranged 'natural' colors to offer rather than allow RGB sliders to create some of the eye bleeding colors I saw in EQ1.</DIV>

[einar4]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Atmosphear1993 wrote:<BR> <DIV>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>QFE</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[initoci]

Midnight would be......wow...

[Gargamel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sinkatze wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Atmosphear1993 wrote: <P>You have just displayed more talent/creativeness than what the Art Team is currently displaying.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ff3300></FONT> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3300>Totally true <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Heh... so right, but rumor is that the MAIN reason is they are woefully understaffed. (resources were held on DoF longer, while other teams could do things that benefit the core game as 'their' part of DoF)</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[BarryT]

<DIV>I do hope that this post has been paid much attention to, some of the art work here is truly fantastic.</DIV>

[Sir Ka]

Those medium armors in the first post look so bloody awesome :p That midnight vanguard armor looks great too. They should hire you as art developer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ironmeow]

<DIV>this is making me depressed, the players can take 10-15 minutes out of their day to tint yet the artists/designers had a year and still nothing.</DIV>

[Taubin]

<P>From LU 15...  This gives me a little bit of hope, and aleaviates one of my biggest "complaints" about the cobalt armor</P> <P> </P> <P>- Crafted Cobalt armor is now blue.</P> <P> </P> <P>Cobalt Blue 4TW</P>

[Ironmeow]

<DIV>its not really blue, its more like a black with 2% blue</DIV>

[ScamprinSlippy]

<DIV>the pics done by the original poster are the best i've ever seen of armor tinting examples, would LOVE to see this implemented in game</DIV>

[xandez]

Amazing pics here... hopefully that kinda stuff is implemented SOON! ++Xan <div></div>

[Dimgroth]

Thats brilliant! I wish SOE had better art devs, this is getting rediculous, I just got my new month of eq2 game card and already I feel so bland compared to something even as simple as guild wars, which I enjoy becuase of the feel.  I love that Midnight polished parade, if they had actual usuable armor that looked like that with the new midnight tint, id be in love with this game ^ ^ The wood elven monk with different colored gi, WOW! What a difference, I mourn the loss of competant game makers <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[sootyuk]

<div></div>A quick and dirty job to show that its pretty effective on robes too <img src="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cheesy50/robe.jpg"><img src="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cheesy50/robe2.jpg">     Original                                                                 Tinted <div></div><p>Message Edited by sootyuk on <span class=date_text>10-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:42 PM</span>

[Deadly Nightshadow]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sootyuk wrote:<BR> A quick and dirty job to show that its pretty effective on robes too<BR><BR><IMG src="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cheesy50/robe.jpg"><IMG src="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cheesy50/robe2.jpg"><BR>    Original                                                                 Tinted<BR><BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by sootyuk on <SPAN class=date_text>10-25-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:42 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>One word: Amazing.</DIV> <DIV>A quick job and there's a new robe to show for it. Damnit I hope that Blackguard isn't spewing out BS about new armour graphics coming. SOE could do this so quickly and their fanbase would expand dramatically.  Someone in management isn't doing their job right.</DIV>

[Findara]

<div></div><img src="http://malice-guild.com/images/ScreenShot_00132.jpg"><img src="http://malice-guild.com/images/ScreenShot_00133.jpg"> I got kinda bored and had [Removed for Content] of a RoI. I think both of them are better than the normal RoI. I think I have sceen teh green one before but not on a player. This one dont look so hot but eh I was on a roll and having fun <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://malice-guild.com/images/ScreenShot_00134.jpg"> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Findarato on <span class=date_text>10-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:00 PM</span>

[Sinkat]

<P><FONT color=#ff3300>If it were me I would add a ton of new armor into the game, because there isin't enough variety, but if they can't even do tinting then they should at least start by it. The tinting on the one who opened the thread are awsome, just amazing and would add great inmercity in clothing, they should really try taking notes from here and see what a diference can be made in armor just by changing its color.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Good Luck!</FONT></P>

[Doylen]

*Drool* GIVE US TINTS NOW! =) <p></p>

[Dimgroth]

Please, the suspense is killing me..Soe, do SOMETHING, it really would be simple to tint a few things and bam! New flavor to the game, even a simple black robe, pure black, would be ideal for me and my dark mage which I havnt touched because he looks like a priest, a badly dressed priest.. I would love for that midnight color to be on armors, and maybe a winged helm of simular make, that would be..divine... Do it! You know you want to, you want people to enjoy your game..dont hold out because its easier.. <p></p>

[sootyuk]

The annoying thing is, that i know there are some nice robes in the game, just very low lvl robes. For example I found this Soft Fur Robe with my lvl 15 Paladin, If only i could find a Lvl 40-60 robe in the same style, or with a few different colour combinations. For those of you artistically inclined, this is a nightmare screengrab to tint. <img src="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cheesy50/robe3.jpg"> <p></p>

[Ironmeow]

<P>yah i agree, it seems like someone is getting lazy and making all the crappy stuff look good and the high end stuff look crappy.</P>

[Prothos]

It would be nice to give some variety to the players I am really hoping this might be viable in the near future. <P></P>

[JaggNomr]

<P>Oh WOW, thanks guys. All I have wanted from a MMORPG is variety. Thanks for letting my dreams atleast come true for a few minutes.</P> <P> </P> <P>TAKE NOTES SOE, People aren't spending time on this for fun. We WANT IT, and we WANT IT soon!</P>

[KniteShayd]

I very musch so agree that armour tinting would add soo much more flavor to the game.  the brawler outfits look darn good the first models are awsome!  the colors are not loud and crazy like in eqlive.  the only thing i can honestly say to bad mouth it is what if i had a piece of each color?  try making a model with different piece color combos and see if that would look hideous.  if it does, that is why soe prolly hasnt done it thus far.  although i have seen a pally with cloth pants, chain sleeves and and a breastplate.  looked real wierd. lol.  but whatever floats your boat i gess.  i still would like to be able to dye my robes.  just got rid of my crap brown D'morte robe to get yet again a white vest and pants.  can we say mundane? that is boring, granted i hav alot ahead me adventurewise, i would think sony would like to out do it competitors in terms of aesthetics, given the quality of our game, lookswise. <P>Get on the ball and release dyes in the next expansion!</P>

[Sinkat]

<P><FONT color=#ff3300>This thread should be moved to the Future expantion boards for ideas on a next Live Update or something, we really need something like this.<BR><BR>Good Luck!</FONT></P> <P> </P> <P></P>

[Aelanor]

<DIV>Quite nice... they did it in EQ1, and I know some people complained because they lost the uniqueness of their high tier gear. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solution? allow tinting for all, but make each level gear unique in their patterns, and more elaborate for fabled. </DIV> <DIV>Voila... unique for each level! This isn't that difficult, and would make people so much happier... I didn't care that much until I got my t6 robe, now I would like to look unique...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ael</DIV>

[Avarimar]

I'd love to see evil looking Shadow Knights and holy divine looking Paladin Knights in EQ2. Also I'd like to see dark sinister Warlocks and Wizards with stars and moons and more wizardly brighter flashy coloured robes. If they give people ability to tint their armour, then Shadow Knights might choose black and red, and Paladins might choose the lighter holy and divine colours, but whats stopping them from choose black and red? or a Shadow Knight from choosing white? When you run through the world and see someone, will you recognise their class? What would you really prefer, player tints or the devs to make class distinct equipment and more variation that fits within each classes theme? <div></div>

[JaggNomr]

Anything, I would like to see anything added to add more depth to the game. It is needed. Not only do people of different classes look the same, but characters of Hugh level differences look the same. That is the most shocking thing of it all. We need to distinguish ourselves among each other and level. Adding different tints would just be a START to what this gae needs in the variety department.

[Reena617]

<P><FONT face=Verdana size=1>Those look great!</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana size=1></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Verdana size=1>However, it's really sad that someone at home, using only photoshop, can come up with something that looks this awesome - and yet the SOE team, who undoubtedly has some very high end technology at their fingertips.. can't.</FONT></P>

[Kalinmoor]

<div></div><p>Original Armor</p><img src="http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9564/0218lj.jpg">Red/Gold Armor<img src="http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9199/armoroftheuber6oh.jpg"><div></div>