Assassin soloing

[Mr. Dawki]

<DIV>Ok yes assassis are not tanks but i have full fabled armor and i was able to tank nek 3 with one healer</DIV> <DIV>now i cant do anything in there even with 2 healers</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i used to be able to kill any mob in forsaken city (that zone of of mystic lake)</DIV> <DIV>now even the lowest green mob will eat me alive</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my mit % has been lowered about 3%</DIV> <DIV>and my avoidance wven with the second earing and an added agi potion is only 56% </DIV> <DIV>before the expansion it was an even 70%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>can you just take away my def stance now as i cant solo or tank a thing anymore</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>even lvl 58 grey non heroic mobs are landing way too much dmg</DIV>

[EtoilePirate]

I don't think an Assassin ever made a particularly good tank choice.  I always thought of myself as similar to a mage: if the mobs can hit me (1) I'm toast, and (2) I'm doing something wrong.On Test and Beta just before launch -- both on the new combat build -- I could still consistently solo multiple mobs up to 64^^^.  And I mean that as in, fighting one and surviving adds.  When in full Betabuff fabled, I also managed to take down mobs up to 67^^^ one at a time, when they didn't see stealth.  The fights were close, but isn't that what it's all about?  (For the record, the real, non Betabuff Kella has a few fabled pieces, about 8 Master Is, and more or less everything else is legendary and Adept III.)Given the size and scope of the game world, I think that's pretty fair for one player to be able to handle.  If everyone can always solo white and yellow ^^^ mobs then what the hell is the point of having group zones?Besides, when all the characters are 70/100 and fully adorned in their Fabled gear, the mobs will seem easier again in comparison.<div></div>

[Mr. Dawki]

<DIV>weather an assassin was made to be a tank or not the fact that our avoidance has been nerfed 10% + is wrong and needs to be fixed</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i cant solo even green heroics now</DIV>

[DiceDunkelrose]

what should i do when i'm bored now?<p>Message Edited by DiceDunkelrose on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:37 PM</span>

[steelbadger]

Uhhh, hasn't your avoidance gone down simply because all of the caps have gone up?  You are no longer at the caps, and thus your avoidance is no longer what it was.<div></div>

[Morticai the third]

<DIV>yes it went down because it went from 6 points a lvl to 6.5 but all leather tanks dont notice because they have deflection</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>scouts dont have deflection so SOE gave us the shaft</DIV>

[HazNpho]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Morticai the third wrote:<div>yes it went down because it went from 6 points a lvl to 6.5 but all leather tanks dont notice because they have deflection</div> <div> </div> <div>scouts dont have deflection so SOE gave us the shaft</div><hr></blockquote>Yeah, but thats typical SOE for you. Don't expect them to fix it though.And for the note, I think your a bit wrong on how bad we got nerfed, I grouped with some friends the day after release of EoF and getting it installed... We hit Dreadwake, I ended up tanking cause all we had was monks in the tank class. Between all of them none could match me for tanking, He couldn't hit me at all, he's lvl 42 or something and I was mentored to 54 from 59, none of my stats changed in the mentor process. But technically he was still grey to me. Even the other epics I have fought, unless they were 20 lvls below me would hit me. He didn't. And soloing green mobs... Done it, so I'm still not seeing where your having a problem.</div><p>Message Edited by HazNpho on <span class=date_text>11-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:29 AM</span>

[Mr. Dawki]

<DIV>IDK</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i was able to auto attack green heroics down now i cant beat them even with decapitate up</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but they did say the KoS mobs dodged the nerf bat and its still within the ZOMG EVERTHING IS BROKEN stage of the expansion</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my only consern is that i solo in the viliage of shin ad pack not kos so i hope they catch that zone too</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>note:although it was [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] funny to see my brothers "uber fabled " get one shotted by the first trash mob in deathtoll <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>edit YAY spelling errors</DIV><p>Message Edited by Mr. Dawkins on <span class=date_text>11-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:03 AM</span>

[steelbadger]

I saw a raid in Castle Mistmoore get chased out by the heroics in the second room <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[HazNpho]

After post to Dreadwake... Um, the only reason he was green to me for that fight was cause even at 55 (which I was mentored to not 54) he is still grey, it was the group avg that brought him down, and he didn't hit me once.As for the nerf bat, yeah, it seems our DPS has gone up, our avoidance, mit, and overall usefullness has gone down.<div></div>

[jpace1976]

<P>ASSASSIN : a <U>person</U> who commits murder; <I>especially</I> <B>:</B> <U>one</U> who murders a politically <U>important</U> person either for hire or from fanatical motives. </P> <P>According to this definition an assassin is a person ( singular ) that murders a important ( at least a heroic green ) person.  I know we're not ment to solo much but by definition we should be at least able to stand toe to toe 1 on 1 with an enemy of equal worth. I guess that says something about the worth of my 2 year old assassin if he gets beat up by green con'd mobs. If the state of the assassin stays the same I propose we change the name of the class to assailant, we assalt mobs not kill them.</P>

[Nathdorl]

theres kinda lot of whining in here... just like the monks do.the thing is: all avoidances have gone down 20% (evry class, MONK/BRUISERS TOO). and no we didnt hit the 80% cap before (i had 56% with agi capped)the deflection doesn help bruisers a single thing because their deflection was lowered too!after the exp soloing poets palace is still possible although a little harder (well of course you cant kill the last mob and i always skip those statue things coz it takes way too long to place them if solo).so i cant see what youre complaining about? monks kinda did the same thing although they're still overpowered as they can still solo in sanctumall soe did was changing the combat system so that you to actually care about your stats (like the importance of meleeskills on tohit% 'n stuff)

[Siclone]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jpace1976 wrote:<BR> <P>ASSASSIN : a <U>person</U> who commits murder; <I>especially</I> <B>:</B> <U>one</U> who murders a politically <U>important</U> person either for hire or from fanatical motives. </P> <P>According to this definition an assassin is a person ( singular ) that murders a important ( at least a heroic green ) person.  I know we're not ment to solo much but by definition we should be at least able to stand toe to toe 1 on 1 with an enemy of equal worth. I guess that says something about the worth of my 2 year old assassin if he gets beat up by green con'd mobs. If the state of the assassin stays the same I propose we change the name of the class to assailant, we assalt mobs not kill them.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>come on,,,you cant use a english dictonary difination of a word and apply it to a "Fantasy" Game....Websters difination of the word is not the same defination of the SOE "assassin"---this is SOE world,,,so only how they definate matters.  </P> <P> </P> <P>and come on,,,you cant stand toe to toe soloing a white solo mob? PLEASE.  I can solo two white solo mobs at once, being level 70 and not all that great gear.  your whining cause you cant solo "group" mobs....well guess what,,,,,thats the way SOE wants it, hence some of the changes,,,,</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by DaStone on <span class=date_text>11-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:37 AM</span>

[Mr. Dawki]

<P>and no we didnt hit the 80% cap before (i had 56% with agi capped)<BR></P> <HR> Psssst <P>get a good shield and some +parry gear you would have had it</P>