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TheRisingstorm

09-12-2006, 06:43 PM

<div></div><div></div>Well I’m a 70 assassin, and think that my DPS is ok, 1000-1300avg depending on group set up (pick up raids). Have gone down the STR and INT line. I just want to get a couple of things cleared up that I’m a bit fuzzy on!After STR is capped start building up INT (INT affects poison damage, but has it anything to do with proc rate?)As many Haste/DPS items as possible that stack. (But would you sacrifice INT for haste. What’s more important?)Currently using 2 piercing. Faster Weapon 1.0s is in main hand (does main hand affect when poison proc, as parse doesn’t seem like they proc as often as they should) Ok now about HOW you actually fight.As we have slow recast timers on our CA’s, what I am currently doing is debuffing and firing off as many as quick as poss (I do try to time some of the larger hits with other peoples debuffs ect), so that they will recharge sooner. I do very little auto attack in a fight (parse for labs zone shows 18% pierce max). Should I be timing certain skills, or just not using some of them. Basically I try to avoid autoattack as dual wield damage doesn’t seem the greatest.Do you all do similar or should timing be worked on ?? Is autoattack something I have underestimated!!Here is parse for example, only can find this 1 while not at home. Am mentored to mid50's zone was SOTL about a month ago.<a href="http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-08-08_03/225219_pestilent.gif" target="_blank">http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-08-08_03/225219_pestilent.gif</a> Thanks all Pestilent 70 AssassinRunnyeye<div></div>Message Edited by TheRisingstorm on 09-12-200608:20 AMMessage Edited by TheRisingstorm on 09-12-2006 08:20 AM

Sirlutt

09-12-2006, 07:07 PM

i have the Grinning Dirk of Horror, with 100% haste it auto attacks every 2s for about 500-1200 points.. that adds alot to my damage.I value haste over INT.. and i use my self DPS/Haste buffs when ever group ones are down.for me Auto Attack is about 400-700 DPS when in the right groups.. i use it as much as possible.Generally 1200-2200 DPS depending on the fight.<div></div>

Satie

09-12-2006, 08:00 PM

<div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr>TheRisingstorm wrote:<div></div><div></div>Well I’m a 70 assassin, and think that my DPS is ok, 1000-1300avg depending on group set up (pick up raids). Have gone down the STR and INT line. I just want to get a couple of things cleared up that I’m a bit fuzzy on!After STR is capped start building up INT (INT affects poison damage, but has it anything to do with proc rate?)No, int doesnt have anything to do with proc rate.As many Haste/DPS items as possible that stack. (But would you sacrifice INT for haste. What’s more important?)Hasted youll proc more often so haste > int. If your not close to caped on haste in the group your in then yea, i would put on haste items.Currently using 2 piercing. Faster Weapon 1.0s is in main hand (does main hand affect when poison proc, as parse doesn’t seem like they proc as often as they should)Yea, you proc off the main hand. Ok now about HOW you actually fight.As we have slow recast timers on our CA’s, what I am currently doing is debuffing and firing off as many as quick as poss (I do try to time some of the larger hits with other peoples debuffs ect), so that they will recharge sooner. I do very little auto attack in a fight (parse for labs zone shows 18% pierce max). Should I be timing certain skills, or just not using some of them. Basically I try to avoid autoattack as dual wield damage doesn’t seem the greatest.Do you all do similar or should timing be worked on ?? Is autoattack something I have underestimated!!You should not worry about auto attack. Spam all you have up as long as you have power. The loss you are seeing in melee when using CAs is less effected with slower weapons. (grinning drik, dirk of negativity, wurmslayer. . )Here is parse for example, only can find this 1 while not at home. Am mentored to mid50's zone was SOTL about a month ago.<a href="http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-08-08_03/225219_pestilent.gif" target="_blank">http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-08-08_03/225219_pestilent.gif</a>Melee is about 30% for me, but thats also because i probably have better weaponsThanks all Pestilent 70 AssassinRunnyeye<div></div>Message Edited by TheRisingstorm on 09-12-200608:20 AMMessage Edited by TheRisingstorm on 09-12-2006 08:20 AM<hr></blockquote>Satinah/SalinahJotO AB</div>Message Edited by Satie on 09-12-2006 09:22 AMMessage Edited by Satie on 09-12-2006 09:23 AM

Toravisu

09-13-2006, 03:26 AM

What parser is that?<div></div>

TheRisingstorm

09-13-2006, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the info. I guess I realy can't do much more until I get my hands on some better weapons.The parser is ACT<a href="http://home.maine.rr.com/eqaditu/ACT/" target=_blank>http://home.maine.rr.com/eqaditu/ACT/</a>Thanks

EtoilePirate

09-20-2006, 10:22 PM

Although auto-attack on the whole can be 35-50% of an Assassin's DPS, there are times when you don't want to be focused on it.If you're required to be jousting a mob with big AOE effects, or if your raid leader's strategies have you doing something else that doesn't have you more or less up the mob's backside the entire time (auto-attack range is smaller than CA range) you're not going to be maximizing your auto-attack DPS anyway. I think I get the most use out of haste and auto-attack on hard group mobs and lengthy dungeon crawls rather than on raid mobs.How I fight really does depend on the mob and the group. If I'm in a group of people I know, often work with, and trust I'll fight differently than if I'm grouping with people I either don't group with as often or don't perceive as being quite as good or as confident as members of my usual cohort. And being that I raid on a very small server (the smallest of all), our group composition and arrangements vary more than what most people are used to, so how I fight will really depend on the raid makeup, too.<div></div>

TheRisingstorm

09-21-2006, 03:45 PM

35-50% melee, thats a huge ammount. Dont think I have ever gone over 25%. what dps would you get for that over a 2min epic fight?Over 2 min fights I am now in the region of 1200-1500 with pausing slightly between hitting the next button (which i didnt do before) So it seems there should be a certain melee % that gives optimum dps?<div></div>