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Cael
02-07-2006, 02:12 AM
<div>Hello evil brothers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>Just a quick question to educate myself, how many positional attacks do you have?</div><div>Positional being at range, flank/behind, or invised so there isnt any confusion, and non positional being no special conditions, like invis or flank or range.</div><div> </div><div>As a ranger, I have:</div><div> </div><div>Precise Shot (Range)</div><div>Triple Shot (Range)</div><div>Amazing Shot (Range)</div><div>Crippling Shot (Range, but can be cast on the move)</div><div>Confusion Arrow (Range)</div><div>Snaring Shot (Range)</div><div>Culling the weak (Range and Flanked/behind, but can be cast on the move)</div><div>Stealthy Fire (Range and Invis)</div><div><div>Stream of Arrows (Range further than all other ranged Ca's but not by much, but still seems....odd)</div><div>Storm of Arrows (Range)</div></div><div>Natural Selection (Range and Invis)</div><div>Long Shank (Flank/behind)</div><div>Lunging Blade (Flank/behind)</div><div>Tangleflame (Invis)</div><div> </div><div><div>Non positional Attack I have:</div><div>Arrow Rip</div><div>Shocking Thrust</div><div>Fatal Reminder</div><div>Lunging Thrust</div><div> </div><div><div>I am a 56 ranger, and am going off a guide we have for all our skills, cause I cant recall them all from memory.</div></div><div>I think as our evil counterparts your conditional attacks are probably as numerous, but I dont know, thats why im asking</div><div> </div><div>This is not anything related to competition, hate, any of that crap, not trolling, I just want to educate myself on other scout classes.</div></div>

Tealdea
02-07-2006, 03:18 AM
<div></div><div></div>Let's see... From level 45 plus....All melee can be cast while moving.<font color="#ffff00">Melee</font>Mask of Night (flanking/behind - melee)Massacre (stealth - melee - Frontal AE)Garrote (stealth - melee)Punch Blade (stealth - melee)Assassinate (stealth - melee)Deathly Blade (stealth - melee)Gorestrike (stealth - flanking/behind - melee)Murderer's Assault (stealth - melee - all-around AE)Crippling Strike (melee - behind only)Finishing Blow (melee - flanking/behind)<font color="#ffff00">Ranged :</font>Assailing Blast (ranged - any dirrection - no movement)Spitting Asp (ranged - behind only - can be cast while moving)Fel Shot (ranged - flanking/behind - can be cast while moving)<font color="#ffff00">Other attack with no restrictions (the majority are low damage) :</font>Oozing Wound (very small dmg, up to 100 at best, small dot every 6 sec's, on termination of the duration 300-400 dmg is delt, but the duration is longer than the recast, so this is an unstable skill)Insidious Wound (up to 250 dmg roughly, small dot every 6 secs)Scraping Blow (up to 300 dmg roughly, small dot every 6 secs)Contrived Weapon (this is a unique ranged skill. It's decent damage, can be cast while moving and has no "target too close" restriction)Freezing Strike (1k dmg, roots target with 5% of breaking on dmg)Other skills are buffs, debuffs, resistance debuff/snare combo's and a skill that has a chance to proc extra dmg (400-500 roughly) for 5 succussfully landed attacks<div></div><p>Message Edited by Tealdeath on <span class="date_text">02-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:38 PM</span></p>

MystaSkrat
02-07-2006, 10:33 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Tealdeath wrote:<div></div>Oozing Wound (very small dmg, up to 100 at best, small dot every 6 sec's, on turminuion of the duration 300-400 dmg is delt, but the duration is longer than the recast, so this is an unstable skill)<hr></blockquote>They fixed that :smileyhappy:  24 sec duration, 30 sec recast

Tealdea
02-07-2006, 10:37 AM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>MystaSkratch wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Tealdeath wrote:<div></div>Oozing Wound (very small dmg, up to 100 at best, small dot every 6 sec's, on turminuion of the duration 300-400 dmg is delt, but the duration is longer than the recast, so this is an unstable skill)<hr></blockquote>They fixed that :smileyhappy:  24 sec duration, 30 sec recast<hr></blockquote>O ya? Nice... But wasn't it 20 sec recast to start? I don't remember, so wondering, I think it was?I see no behind only attacks on the ranger list... I feel like a rogue during duel's and when I use crippling strike when I think back on the good old days when itwas any dirrection skill, great skill for dueling. Now you'll be extremely lucky if you land it on a duel (you'd be surpised standing behind someone and get the "must be behind target" message lol.... )</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Tealdeath on <span class="date_text">02-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:41 PM</span></p>

twiddlethumb
02-07-2006, 11:23 AM
Gorestrike also has a requirement to face the target, unlike Punch Blade for instance<div></div>

c00nd
02-07-2006, 08:25 PM
<div></div>Question:  do rangers have an ability to invis from range while in combat?

Cael
02-07-2006, 09:35 PM
<div></div><p>Yeah, Stealth, our lvl 14 predator spell....I dont know what its called now or when its given to new rangers</p><p>We also have Improved surveil, which you cant be at max range to use, but you can be almost there, and it drops some aggro and puts us in stealth and has I believe a 3 min recast on it. This is also given to us but is a line really early in our lives. I tihnk its called evade at its early stages, but dont recall.</p>

dea
02-08-2006, 02:30 AM
<div></div>You can use the slow cast <font color="#666666"><strike>'Sneak'</strike></font>'Stealth' as well as the 'Stalk' line (of which Surveil and Improved Surveil are part) at range, can't think of any others off the top of my head.Edit: there I go showing my age, it is now 'Stealth' instead of 'Sneak'.<div></div><p>Message Edited by deaks on <span class="date_text">02-08-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:32 AM</span></p>

whytakemine
02-08-2006, 07:45 AM
I don't really consider ranged a positional attack since it doesn't require much movement.  I never have any difficulty getting into a position to use my ranged attack, but in big fights with lots of mobs it can take me a couple seconds to get in position to back attack whenever the tank switches targets.  In fact, I often use assailing blast or contrived weapon to get in an attack while I sort out where the target is and move to a position so I can backstab again. Nice list though.<div></div>