Darkfury Sabre

[MystaSkrat]

<div>They are changing this weapon.  You can add your comments on it here: <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=60523" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=60523</a></div><div> </div><div>I, personally, don't think it's a very good change.  I know a lot of you probably don't have this weapon, but if those of you that do have it want to throw your 2c in on that thread, please do.</div>

[Craien]

<div></div>Well I don't have it yet, but will eventually.  Looks like they're making it a pretty mediocre weapon, except maybe when compared against crafted legendary (but that shouldn't really be the case imo).  Thanks for posting the link.

[MystaSkrat]

<div></div>Well, at the very least, they are flipping the stats now (20str 10 agi).  Yay :smileyhappy:

[arkkon]

<div>pris 1.0 , 25 str,  10 agi.</div><div> </div><div>Is it not expected of them to make it better than the pris 1, or do we have to remind them that its stats are inferior.</div>

[MystaSkrat]

<div></div>Yea I agree that the total of the stats should be higher at least, kinda odd...

[Craien]

<div></div>Hmm ... I expect the answer to that would be something like 'It's not intended to be the upgrade for the Prismatic, the stats are as intended'.  Or 'This is part of a general, longterm plan to bring the scout archtype dps down across the board'.  I know, conspiracy theories, but it sort of fits.  Or I'm tired.

[Jvaloth]

<div></div><div></div><p>Its barely better than Prismatic 1.0 and its infinitly harder to get.</p><p>I've been reading conflicting reports.  Screenshot I see regarding test says 20 agi 10 str  +5 pierce.  Someone made a post regarding one of my complaints  saying that the stats were reversed and  its now  20 str, 10 agi  +5 pierce.   </p><p> </p><p>Can someone verify/clarify?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Jvaloth on <span class="date_text">01-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:50 AM</span></p>

[KirikaNo]

<div></div>They did reverse the stats to 20 STR but it's still not all that great... I'd like to see something a bit better for such a tedious and annoying quest.  Desert Skewer is far and away better.

[Jvaloth]

<div>Aye, stats do suck considering what all is involved to get it, that much is for.    25 str 10 agi  +5 pierce  10% proc rate   47.7 dmg rating     <---- Stats the weapon should have.</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[KirikaNo]

<span><blockquote><hr>Jvaloth wrote:<div>Aye, stats do suck considering what all is involved to get it, that much is for.    25 str 10 agi  +5 pierce  10% proc rate   47.7 dmg rating     <---- Stats the weapon should have.</div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>48.5 damage rating.  That makes it SLIGHTLY better damage-wise than the Foreman's Shank, Short Sword of Sorrow, etc.</span><div></div>

[Kokus]

<div>Personal opinion on what it <em>should</em> be:</div><div> </div><div>~48 damage rating.</div><div>25 strength, 15 stamina, 75 health, 75 power, +5 piercing</div>

[Graton]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>KirikaNoir wrote:<div></div>They did reverse the stats to 20 STR but it's still not all that great... I'd like to see something a bit better for such a tedious and annoying quest.  Desert Skewer is far and away better.<hr></blockquote>this is not to imply that it isn't a hard weapon to attain. i don't have one and my guild has never fought the godking but the weapon requires an enormous time investment and from what i've heard the godking is no party, so it's tough to get. that said a guild can get this weapon for everyone all at once. comparing it to a drop from terrorantula ( i think he/she/it drops the skewer); i don't find it indefensible that the skewer be better.terrorantula is a contested spawn with a chance to drop a master chest which might have the skewer and which one person will get. i think he spawns about once a week per server so it's not ridiculous that the skewer is better. as for the foreman's shank / short sword of sorrow well i'm not sure where i fall on that. those weapons are not hard to get , ie the mobs aren't hard, but you get one shot a week and the master chance is no better than 50% i'd guess. still i would agree that the prismatic should be at least equivalent to these in terms of dmg rating and stats. sure the proc sets this weapon apart but given the effort, that seems reasonable.</span></div>

[Tealdea]

<span><blockquote><hr>Kokusho wrote:<div>Personal opinion on what it <em>should</em> be:</div><div> </div><div>~48 damage rating.</div><div>25 strength, 15 stamina, 75 health, 75 power, +5 piercing</div><hr></blockquote>Agree, except </span><span>on 25 strength, 15 stamina, 75 health, 75 power, +5 <font color="#ff0000">piercing... <font color="#ffffff">make it Agi.</font></font></span><div></div>

[dparker7]

<div></div>The stats really should be str and int.  Every scout class procs and bard damage is mostly based off int.  Meanwhile sta is nice (but not damage) and agi is fairly worthless.

[Craien]

<div></div>I'm with Kokusho.  I like the idea of getting more intelligence, but if given a choice I would go with stamina.  More hitpoints equal greater survivability, and you can't deal out dps if you're dead.

[KirikaNo]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Graton wrote:<div><span><blockquote>as for the foreman's shank / short sword of sorrow well i'm not sure where i fall on that. those weapons are not hard to get , ie the mobs aren't hard, but you get one shot a week and the master chance is no better than 50% i'd guess. still i would agree that the prismatic should be at least equivalent to these in terms of dmg rating and stats. sure the proc sets this weapon apart but given the effort, that seems reasonable.</span><hr></blockquote></div></blockquote><p>Yeah I understand the contested loot > instanced loot argument, but the fact that this weapon is WORSE than things like the Short Sword of Sorrow and the Foreman's Shank is appauling.  Look at the facts:</p><p>SSoS/FS - Off of mobs in instanced raid zones with lockouts, mobs that drop both of these are fairly easy, very good stats on both, drop very frequently.</p><p>Sabre of Anuk - End of a long and obnoxious series of quests, must defeat Godking Anuk in his instance after having collected all of the eyes in Silent City, on top of the eye requirement, there is a lockout on the Fountain of Life, Godking is infinitely harder to kill than the mobs that drop the SSoS or FS.</p><p>So why are weapons like those equivalent to the Sabre of Anuk?  It makes no sense.  Leave the stats the same, raise the damage rating to something like 47 or 48.  The proc will ensure better DPS with the Sabre.  Give us a REASON to finish Peacock.</p><p> </p>

[toleran]

<div>Let me ask a question here why this might be slightly nerfed... Is it possible that we can use both the prismatic 1.0 and 2.0 duelie style?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Furry Cucumber lvl 60 <[Removed for Content] of Rezonance></div><div> </div><div> </div>

[KirikaNo]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>tolerance wrote:<div>Let me ask a question here why this might be slightly nerfed... Is it possible that we can use both the prismatic 1.0 and 2.0 duelie style?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Furry Cucumber lvl 60</div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>If you really want to you can... I don't see why you would, though.  Foreman's Shank > DPS of both.

[pera]

You can use both but the pristmatic short sword sucks majorly now.And with LU 19 they power regens no longer stack.For the time and effort involved in this quest the sabre is extreamly lacking compaired to the rest of the godking weapons.  The healer and mage ones are freaking awsome, and the sabre actualy lost a LOT of stats from what it was before this LU all to gain +5 piercing.The sabre should have a desent proc like reduces hate, or sigificantly increase the dmg of the proc.<div></div>

[Jvaloth]

<div></div><p>I agree 100% .  Very weak weapon now.   +5 piercing means nothing.    Whoever said it was 48-49 dmg rating...  its still 44.4.</p><p> </p><p>This weapon needs 25 str,  20 sta,  90 health / 90 power  w/ a proc that does higher dmg and procs a debuff  like   negative pierce resist, negative poison resist, hate reducer (since we have one of the lowest hate reducing abilities of all the dps classes that need one) ,   a stun,  or  SOMETHING interesting.    The dmg rating needs to be boosted to 48.5  or 49.5.</p><p> </p><p>I'm so disappointed with SOE on so many fronts right now.  </p><p>Why is it that they always take 1 step forward, 2 steps back?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

[pera]

<div></div>Na i like the +5 piercing but i really would would an increased agi and str, with a tad of int on it mabe.  IT doese seem kind of bad that it's over all stats are lesser than the prismatic swiftblade<div></div><p>Message Edited by perano on <span class="date_text">02-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:45 AM</span></p>