Stealth

[Bloodbur]

<DIV>I'm sure this has been discussed but man am i ticked off...... seems like half the mobs in the game see stealth and they took away my stealth with no recharge or cast time which really [Removed for Content] me off. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Am i the only 1 really steamed by this ? Lemme know whats up!</DIV>

[Aienaa]

<DIV>Not only that, but Mask of Night seems to fail to put you into stealth quite regularly, which is annoying when a fight is getting close and you go to stun, stealth and backstab and well stealth just doesn't seem to work..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gwern - 53 Assassin</DIV>

[twiddlethumb]

And the surveil line gets unusable by certain HOs <div></div>

[TwoBy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bloodburst wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm sure this has been discussed but man am i ticked off...... seems like half the mobs in the game see stealth and they took away my stealth with no recharge or cast time which really [Removed for Content] me off. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Am i the only 1 really steamed by this ? Lemme know whats up!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Our 2 stealth skills are Hunt and Slip Away.  Slip Away has no cast time and they both will scale up as you level.  I'm fine with mobs seeing stealth and invis.  Not all do, but some will, so it keeps you on your toes as you explore an area.

[Trei]

["... Not only that, but Mask of Night seems to fail to put you into stealth quite regularly, which is annoying when a fight is getting close and you go to stun, stealth and backstab and well stealth just doesn't seem to work....."] It only fails to stealth me when I <i>miss. </i>I think you missed. <div></div>

[Beli]

<P>I have a 26 Troubador and have found that Walk Lightly (stealth upgrade) often fails to work since LU13. The hot button icon get the yellow highlight, and the recast timer has elapsed, but nada. Only way to fix is to zone or camp.</P> <P>Has anyone else been experiencing this with other stealth abilities?</P>

[Comaagereon]

Yeah, I also noticed an issue with the stealth abilities yesterady.  I was in a group and was unable to engage stealth using hunt.  This never happened before and I do not group much so I thought there may have been a wierd issue with buffs or my system was giving me issues.  Nevertheless, it was quite annoying to have to rely on non-stealth attacks, essentially depriving me of most things that are worthwile.  I hit the hotkey and it just stayed depressed like it was waiting for a timer to elapse.  If anyone has any insight I would appreciate it.

[EtoilePirate]

<span><blockquote><hr>Comaagereon wrote:<div></div>Yeah, I also noticed an issue with the stealth abilities yesterady.  I was in a group and was unable to engage stealth using hunt.  This never happened before and I do not group much so I thought there may have been a wierd issue with buffs or my system was giving me issues.  Nevertheless, it was quite annoying to have to rely on non-stealth attacks, essentially depriving me of most things that are worthwile.  I hit the hotkey and it just stayed depressed like it was waiting for a timer to elapse.  If anyone has any insight I would appreciate it.<hr></blockquote>If anyone in your group is in your zone and is in combat, you can't use an out-of-combat stealth.  And if they're not close enough to target, you can't use an in-combat stealth.  Meaning you're just plain stuck.  My guess is that's what happened, although it might not have been.</span><div></div>

[Achar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trei49 wrote:<BR>["... Not only that, but Mask of Night seems to fail to put you into stealth quite regularly, which is annoying when a fight is getting close and you go to stun, stealth and backstab and well stealth just doesn't seem to work....."]<BR><BR><BR>It only fails to stealth me when I <I>miss.<BR></I>I think you missed.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I have been missing Mask of Night 25% of the time on yellow/orange ^^^ mobs. I wonder if casters are getting resisted on par?</DIV> <DIV>So our burst DPS, is getting smaller and smaller.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Arch</DIV>

[Skyroamer]

<font color="#ffffff">I have also experienced this, even before the DoF expansion and the combat/class revamp. I have only experienced that it's happened  with the surveil line abilities (surveil, shadow etc) and not the other ones, but then I think I didn't try them either before I logged. </font><span>Mind you, this is not an out-of-combat stealth, and I was just inches behind the mob I was aiming to hit (so it wasn't out of range or lacking target)</span> <div></div>

[CyriexVTZ]

<span><blockquote><hr>Acharon wrote:<div> I have been missing Mask of Night 25% of the time on yellow/orange ^^^ mobs. I wonder if casters are getting resisted on par?</div> <div>So our burst DPS, is getting smaller and smaller.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Arch</div><hr></blockquote>Arch, Are you using your offensive stance during those misses? As our defensive stance lowers our melee skills by a signifigant amount, we end up with the weapon skills a few levels lower than our current level (eg. a level 44 assassin with defensive stance on might have the weapon skills of a level 40 unstanced assassin). That makes the Yellow/orange mob more like a nasty red, and you're bound to have a signifigant miss rate I have found using my agressive stance on yellow and above mobs (and the related signifigant improvement to our melee skills) produces a very satisfactory hit rate on high level mobs .... just remember, they sure hit back hard..hehe</span><div></div>