Which ebon imbued weapon should I have made?

[Kizee]

<DIV>The few people I have talked to said to fo ebon leafblades but I don't like the looks of weilding a spear. Why do people like leafblades...is it because it has a low delay?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I like the traditional look of assassins that weild small weapons (daggers, shortswords).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Does anybody have a suggestion what to get besides the leafblade and maybe a picture of it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks :smileyhappy:</DIV>

[Putka]

well you can take any ornate spear and see how it looks.. I don't like them much myself either. But I guess they proc significantly more due to slow delay <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I also hate the fact that I have to use a cedar LONGbow because it procs more than the short one as well... *$%#&! big bow looks ugly and has worse stats than the short one <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> In eq2 if you want to look good you'll have to be gimped <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kizee]

<P>The longer delay weapons proc more offen? That doesn't make any sence.</P> <P>I figured the faster you swing the more chance you have for the weapon to proc.</P>

[Cah]

<DIV> Both of you are wrong <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cahan on <span class=date_text>04-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:52 PM</span>

[Kokus]

<DIV>My favored crafted piercing weapon is the ebon sai. :smileyhappy:</DIV>

[Cah]

<DIV>Can you post a screenshot of that please? I only saw a screen of an ebon great axe which looks really cool, so I'd like to know if more rare crafted weapons have a special skin <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV>

[Kokus]

<DIV>Ask and ye shall recieve:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://home.comcast.net/~raleldorjax/EQ2/sai.jpg"></DIV>

[Cah]

<DIV>Nice stats, but looks a bit rusty^^ or is it just the lighting?</DIV>

[Kokus]

<DIV><IMG src="http://home.comcast.net/~raleldorjax/EQ2/sai2.jpg"></DIV><p>Message Edited by Kokusho on <span class=date_text>04-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:15 AM</span>

[Kizee]

<DIV>Really nice stats!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Neat looking skin also but I never liked how the Sai's scaled to my woodelf. The handles come up to my neck. :smileysad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So the ebon weapons don't have a unique look to them? That looks like a regular sai with a multi colored skin to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hear that the short sword looks nice... anybody have pictures of that?</DIV>

[Kokus]

<DIV>heh.. give me a sec and i'll post my ebon short sword</DIV>

[Kokus]

<IMG src="http://home.comcast.net/~raleldorjax/EQ2/ss.jpg">

[Kizee]

<DIV>Jeez kokusho.. have any more you want to post? LOL</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The short sword looks kinda neat... but I like the sai better. (even tho it doesnt scale properly)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am assuming that they all have the same stats.. right?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks alot for the screenies. :smileyhappy:</DIV>

[Kokus]

<DIV>You're just lucky that I was browsing the boards while crafting. Pretty easy to take some screenshots and post them. =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://home.comcast.net/~raleldorjax/EQ2/ss2.jpg"></DIV>

[Kizee]

<DIV>Sai has more str....and I am a str nut. :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Meh... I don't know what to get. :smileyindifferent: </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If anybody else has any other ebon weapons they want to post.. please feel free. :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope I didn't cause you to miss any rare counters... I almost missed one yesterday when I was surfing hehe. I got my root tho!</DIV>

[xunx]

<div></div><div></div>wrong post-nt<p>Message Edited by xunx on <span class=date_text>04-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:26 AM</span>

[xunx]

<div></div>wrong post - nt <div></div><p>Message Edited by xunx on <span class=date_text>04-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:41 AM</span>

[frogspawn]

For grouping dual wielders I highly recommend the sai.  The str and power on that are by far the best.  For a slashing alternative I went with the rapier--smaller power, but same str.  People like the leafblade because they saw a few of them on the top melee hits chart and assume since it has a higher dmg per attack that they'll get bigger hits from it.  That isn't true as the dmg on a weapon doesn't affect your combat arts, but that's why they are popular. All dw weaps are the same dps just as all 1h are the same and all 2h are the same.  So, it comes down to stats and looks.  If you're a grouping t5 assassin you're likely after str and power as your main stats.  The sai rates the highest there.  Here's a site with all the ebon weap stats: http://www.eversor.com/public/ws/t5rare.html<div></div>

[Kizee]

<P>Awsome! </P> <P>Thanks for the chart Frog. </P> <P>That is what I was looking for. :smileyhappy:</P> <P>Figures that the stiletto is high Agil.... :smileyindifferent:</P> <DIV>I will probally end up with the sai because of the reasons you stated Frog.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks again for all the replies.</DIV>

[Putka]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cahan wrote:<BR> <DIV> Both of you are wrong <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cahan on <SPAN class=date_text>04-12-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:52 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sorry, how am I wrong? This post is exactly what I thought about when writing my reply. Yes the proc % <U>over time</U> is supposed to be the same on all weapons, but I said that slower weapons have a higher % of procing on <U>each hit</U>. This is the reason why you see your poison go off so often on bow attacks, since they have insanely high delay. Now I'm not claiming I know everything about this game's mechanics, but I'm assuming if youre using poison with a 7.0 delay bow, you have 58.3% chance of procing on each shot. If I'm wrong about this, please enlighten me, I'm always seeking deeper insight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Cah]

You do not one hit mobs you usually fight, you hit them several times during a fight. So of course slower delay weapons have a higher proc rate per single hit, but as fights usually last for about half a minute or longer, this is not the important number. It's the chance to proc over time, as you said, so in the end it doesn't matter if you are using high or low delay weapons. Actually if you're fighting a very high lvl mob compared to your level you are likely to miss more hits, which could lead to less procs with a low delay weapon, because you have fewer swings that possibly could hit. I think o_0 <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I'd say it's just a matter of taste which kind of weapon you're using, that's why they implemented this system. For bows I'd say you're actually right, because you only have 2 or 3 styles that you use during a fight (I don't use bow skills at all, so it doesn't matter for me personally). <div></div>

[Putka]

<P>Well you wont be missing much after sticking Punch Blade and Anathema hehe <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Yeah ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I suppose it doesn't matter much with melee weapons. Still, it does help with proccing more on melee CAs which can sometimes take a bit of time to execute. But yes, it makes a huge difference on bows. Kind of interesting way of implementing procs heh.. I just wish they'd be more clear with such descriptions, not forcing us to read Dev Tracker to have a clue about how it all works.</P>