What would it take to really make us raid useful all the time?

[Sharde]

<DIV>Even not at 100% but wanted for a raid? Suggestions? Comments? One thought is for our damage CA's make them varied on TYPE of damage (not amount) by weapon wielded? </DIV>

[Synne]

Great question.  It's pretty simple.  Most epic mobs are immune to slashing or piercing or both.  Give us a crushing weapon (blackjacks), like HIkarusai suggested.  Reduce the recast timers and power cost on bloodthirster, condemning blade, and assassinate. Reduce power cost on seeping wound, infected wound, and lingering blow. Make all attacks deal melee damage only.  Not piercing damage.  Let the weapons determine the damage type. Allow our attacks with debuff elements to refresh the debuffs when multiple assassins are in a raid so we don't lose out on our ability to attack when another assassin uses the same skill. Fix Massacre. Give us poisons that actually work at level 50. These are just a few things that would go a long way to making us useful in a raid situation.  As it stands now, it would only make a raid stronger to replace predators with fighters or sorcerers and that is just not acceptable.  <div></div>

[khalysta]

<DIV>1. Overall dps - needs to be higher and significantly higher than fighters and near what a mage puts out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. We need to be able to hit the mobs.  Nothing hurts more than the fact that on a number of mobs crushing is your best attack so if we could dual wield maces or something that would help.  The fighters have no problems again hitting these mobs since they can use all types of weapons with the exception of crusaders being the limited fighter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Poisons need to be viable.  They are part of our balance but if they don't work on raid mobs then our dps drops.  We and other classes should have the debuffs needed for poisons as well so even if the mobs are slightly resistant the raid should be able to drop the resistance and help them hit for full.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4.  Fix stacking - Two assassins on a raid or of any class shouldnt be a huge problem like it is now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When all things are boiled down 4 things matter to a raid:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Tanking - this is the domain of the fighters so not our area of expertise</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. healing - domain of the priests</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Utility - mainly for the enchanters and bards here or what classes can provide the best buffs.  Assassins don't have buffs for the group that work in combat so this is not really our expertise.  Debuffs could be counted here but every class in the game has these.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4.  Raw DPS -  This is our really only viable option. We don't buff, we don't heal and we don't tank so the real usefulness is through damage.  Having high dps makes you a desired raid class and with our foundation of skills it seems we were meant for this but we just arent living up to it at the high end while we did at the low end.</DIV>

[IsmeldaLasomb]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> khalysta wrote:<BR> <DIV>1. Overall dps - needs to be higher and significantly higher than fighters and near what a mage puts out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. We need to be able to hit the mobs.  Nothing hurts more than the fact that on a number of mobs crushing is your best attack so if we could dual wield maces or something that would help.  The fighters have no problems again hitting these mobs since they can use all types of weapons with the exception of crusaders being the limited fighter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Poisons need to be viable.  They are part of our balance but if they don't work on raid mobs then our dps drops.  We and other classes should have the debuffs needed for poisons as well so even if the mobs are slightly resistant the raid should be able to drop the resistance and help them hit for full.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4.  Fix stacking - Two assassins on a raid or of any class shouldnt be a huge problem like it is now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When all things are boiled down 4 things matter to a raid:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Tanking - this is the domain of the fighters so not our area of expertise</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. healing - domain of the priests</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Utility - mainly for the enchanters and bards here or what classes can provide the best buffs.  Assassins don't have buffs for the group that work in combat so this is not really our expertise.  Debuffs could be counted here but every class in the game has these.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4.  Raw DPS -  This is our really only viable option. We don't buff, we don't heal and we don't tank so the real usefulness is through damage.  Having high dps makes you a desired raid class and with our foundation of skills it seems we were meant for this but we just arent living up to it at the high end while we did at the low end.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>/agree

[Putka]

<P>Lol looks like some sorceror who doesnt want us to be raid-viable went on a 1-star spree :smileyvery-happy: or was it a rogue? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Anyway, poisons are getting fixed <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Double proc, higher damage and skill rank up to 250! /cheer</P> <P>I'm glad I didn't pick jeweler yet <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>As for debuffing noxious resists, defilers can drop several thousand of it with Aphotic Corruption. Wow.. and I thought my defiler had no raid use <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Tazzrin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Putka wrote:<BR> <P>Lol looks like some sorceror who doesnt want us to be raid-viable went on a 1-star spree :smileyvery-happy: or was it a rogue? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Anyway, poisons are getting fixed <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Double proc, higher damage and skill rank up to 250! /cheer</P> <P>I'm glad I didn't pick jeweler yet <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>As for debuffing noxious resists, defilers can drop several thousand of it with Aphotic Corruption. Wow.. and I thought my defiler had no raid use <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I need to ask you where you got your insider information because I either missed it somewhere if it was publicly announced or you have some strings that you can pull. If the latter is the case then I would ask you to talk to the devs or whoever you get your info from and tell them to fix us now.</DIV>

[Putka]

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