Specialized Training

[Fogh]

Figured I'd get a post started for specialized training for assassins...for my first I pickedElaa's Relentless Ambush - does about 100 damage for me, same timer as ambush/poisoners blade

[Chronic]

<DIV>anyone know if Holly's Entangling Trap stacks with our other snare lines? (i.e. does it grey out both skills if you use one or can we snare 2 mobs at a time now?)</DIV>

[xGamer]

<DIV>Since they all looked like utility based spells and didn't look upgradeable, I didn't think the attacks would be that powerful. So I chose Harkins Stalking</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Casting time: 3s</DIV> <DIV>Recovery: 0s</DIV> <DIV>Recast: 15s</DIV> <DIV>Skill: Stalking</DIV> <DIV>Required: 100</DIV> <DIV>Mastery:150</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This rocks!  You move much quicker in stealth and shh...it stacks with other stealths.</DIV>

[Fogh]

Does that stealth use the same timer as another? How does it compare in speed to slip away or something

[Calixt]

I am pretty sure all these will grey out another one of our skills, depending on what level you are supposed to get the trait.I got both the Elaa's ones. The ambush one greys out poisoners blade, and the pincer one greys out Ebon Blade. The pincer one also adds a 20point DoT onto it from what I've seen. Hits roughly the same as my Ebon Blade adept 1. More testing on that to follow though, haven't had much experience with it yet.

[Fogh]

Yeah, i think you are right, they are upgrades/imporivements and will always grey out another skill they are upgrading.Anyone done the #3 specialized training? Really curious on the improviement on the Assassins blade one and the ebon blade one... I am leaning towards the ebon blade upgrade since I can use it 1-2 times a battle, whereas assassin blade is once every 5 min.

[Sharde]

<DIV>When i was using the ambush one it didnt seem to grey out anything? maybe im crazy but i used both Ambushs right in a row, i chose the dot for the 20 one, bleed something, Yea.... on the same timer as bleed and agonizing wound ... bummer...... picked the extreme damage one for 30..... now thats handy =) more damage than my adept 1 assasins blade (it shows as adept 2) its higher level so i can still get more growing out of it, quicker recast, and not greying out the assasins blade... so 2 Extreme damage hits </DIV>

[Gw]

<DIV>The ambush skill isnt on the same timer as you normal ambush  but  it greys out  your poisoners blade.</DIV> <DIV>I dont use the special training ambush anymore as I prefer my poisoners blade. I think it should be on the same timer as ambush.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Nikenin]

<DIV>Anyone have any idea how long the slow effect of Holly's Entangling Trap last?  I see the snare part show up in my maintained abilites for about 2 seconds before its broken due to damage but I'm curious how long the slow effect last as theirs no indication in the maintained window.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Belgarog</DIV> <DIV>27th Lvl Ratonga Assassin</DIV> <DIV>Antonia Bayle</DIV>

[Kadaryn]

Harkins Stalking greys out Hunt, but the recast timer is fast it doesn't realy matter.I am very glad I chose this one over the others. Regular group mates can't belive how well I can keep up while stealthed. They should have just named this one 'Freedom'. The only problem I have with it is how cocky I get and sometimes forget to check for 'scout' type mobs that might agro on me.

[Dacari]

<DIV>Where/when do you get this specialized training? I'm 26 and haven't found anything yet?</DIV>

[Trei]

<blockquote><hr>Gwif wrote:<DIV>The ambush skill isnt on the same timer as you normal ambush but it greys out your poisoners blade.</DIV><DIV>I dont use the special training ambush anymore as I prefer my poisoners blade. I think it should be on the same timer as ambush.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>YepA similar bug is on the lvl 10 quickstrike upgrade, and it is really [Removed for Content] me off.It was explained that the trained versions would grey out the skills they are based on, so technically right now we are getting INFERIOR versions of skills one can't even get yet at the respective training levels... ? Not to mention that this is also giving lvl 10 predators extra attacks they should not be getting.It would have made a lot more sense if quickstrike/ambush (scout arts) were linked with pierce/poisonblade (predator arts)OR grey out just what the description say the trained versions would upgrade from.If the current state of the skills are intended, then this is false documentation and I really REALLY do NOT like being irreversibly mislead by false documentation, no matter how trivial the issue may be.I really would like to know if Archetype-level arts are intended to be linked with similar Class/Subclass-level arts.I do believe they are logically supposed to but currently they are not linked.