cheap shot..

[Karam_Gruul]

<DIV>Hey all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just wondering, looking at our lvl 1-50 skill list, i dont see a replacement anywhere for our Cheap Shot skill (5 second stun move)..... now im a little upset about that, as i think we badly need a more lengthy stun to make us more effective while soloing, i can never get behind a mob or anything using just a 5 second stun to pull off any of my positional moves.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>maybe i'm wrong and we do get one somewhere.. i'd like to know if we do!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and if we dont, is it worth upgrading cheap shot to adept 1 or something, does that increase the stun time?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks in advance!</DIV>

[TormEQ2]

<DIV>Well, the cheap shot deal is pretty simple. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Circle strafing, anyone thats played any FPS game for some time will know what that means, and that is pretty much how you're going to get a Backstab or similar thru.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can't comment on the lenght of the stun duration though, since I don't have cheap shot adept 1 for my newbie scout yet (My mate had it for me, but put it up for sale at four gold thinking no one would buy it at that price, and the next morning it was gone <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Karam_Gruul]

<DIV>but theres simply not enough time to turn off combat, activate stalk, sneak behind an enemy AND pull off shadowblade all within 5 seconds, its just physically impossible considering the cast times involved... i cant see how it can be done</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Trei]

Turn off combat Activate cheapshot and queue stalk Step to side of target and queue shadowblade, all before stalk completesJust make sure you are always facing the target and your s.blade will fire off at the 4 second mark.<p>Message Edited by Trei49 on <span class=date_text>12-31-2004</span> <span class=time_text>08:00 AM</span>

[Tri]

<DIV>Hmm usually I just jump over the mob while the bar for cheap shot is about halfway. Hit aneak atk or shrouded strike on the way over and 90% of the time the mob is stunned and still facing away from me when the next atk fires. Haven't tried the turn of auto atk,CS,stalk and Sblade one yet....might give it a go to see how it turns out</DIV>

[Tolil]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Karam_Gruul wrote:<BR> <DIV>but theres simply not enough time to turn off combat, activate stalk, sneak behind an enemy AND pull off shadowblade all within 5 seconds, its just physically impossible considering the cast times involved... i cant see how it can be done</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Yes there is, I do it all the time.</P> <P>Make sure your not using bleed before you use cheap shot, if bleed hits the mob while it's stunned it will start fighting again.  Also, check your combat spam to make sure that your poison hasn't hit yet - works the same as bleed, if it hits while the mob is stunned, it will start fighting.</P> <P>I usually try to get a cheap shot and second stealth attack early in the fight, which frees up bleed and any other DoT's for after the stun</P>

[KroviusTu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tolil wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Karam_Gruul wrote:<BR> <DIV>but theres simply not enough time to turn off combat, activate stalk, sneak behind an enemy AND pull off shadowblade all within 5 seconds, its just physically impossible considering the cast times involved... i cant see how it can be done</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Yes there is, I do it all the time.</P> <P>Make sure your not using bleed before you use cheap shot, if bleed hits the mob while it's stunned it will start fighting again.  Also, check your combat spam to make sure that your poison hasn't hit yet - works the same as bleed, if it hits while the mob is stunned, it will start fighting.</P> <P>I usually try to get a cheap shot and second stealth attack early in the fight, which frees up bleed and any other DoT's for after the stun</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>I do this all the time as well.  There's pletty of time.  The trick is to chain stalk and run around the target BEFORE the casting finishes.  That way, you'll be able to get off any of the stealth moves.</P> <P>However, DOT'ing the target will wake it up out of stun early.  So save those until after you've used Stalk.</P>

[KroviusTu]

<DIV>Doh, I just repeated what he said.</DIV>

[sorav]

The reason why assassin's don't get an upgrade to cheap shot is because at that level we aren't assassin's we're scouts and have the same generic skills as every other scout. I bet brigand or swashbuckler gets upgrades to that skill.

[Sarevh]

instead of running around the mob you can just jump over it. provided its small enough.

[JeffGodofBiscui]

<DIV>Actually, what i find i've used cheap shot for when soloing anymore is my ranged attacks.  granted, a lot of you posting are under 30, but at 31 you've got 2 ranged skills that can hit from the front, while moving and do about as much as an assassin's blade together.  i just drop a snare on, cheap shot, back up and start firing.  adds more damage with 0 chance of screwing up than trying to reposition of a shrouded blade/cut throat.  though i havn't been able to get off a back shot(shrouded barb)  doing this, takes too long to get a distance behind the enemy and still get 2 second cast off before they wheel about.  anyway, just a thought for those of you having trouble getting behind those pesky mobs.</DIV>