Rat Pet ~ blah

[Elv]

So, bought my rat pet. Cost me like 14 silver off a vendor. What does it do? hmmm he will follow you around. Wont guard you, or attack on command. Kinda just sits there making little rat noises when your getting beat on by other mobs. Dont buy it IMO, unless you feel the need to waste 14 silver. I hope this is just a bug atm.. Kinda lame if not.

[Demon Wrai]

<DIV>It's ONLY 14 silver.  I read elsewhere that it's broken.  Doesn't sound broken to me.</DIV>

[Flarglegru]

<DIV>i read several places that it is just for show. its one of our few novelty abilities. every class gets a few . we also get a high elf illusion at 40 or so and a shadow illusion at 50 i believe</DIV>

[Good_ome]

<DIV>Im so getting this rat pet , just to have it follow me around "making rat sounds"</DIV>

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Good_omens wrote:<BR> <DIV>Im so getting this rat pet , just to have it follow me around "making rat sounds"</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I'm hoping the guards in Qeynos will attack it.  That way I can use it to distract some while I make a dash for doors.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And probably get attacked right on the other side. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Shin]

not meaning to derail the pet rat thread, but the guards outside qeynos wont attack you (if you're evil)once you get inside, they... sort of.. smack you around, but they dont do damage, they just throw you outside the city... someone else said they made it into the city and i was trying for 30 minutes.... maybe when we get a higher level sneak..

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shino_ wrote:<BR>not meaning to derail the pet rat thread, but the guards outside qeynos wont attack you (if you're evil)<BR><BR>once you get inside, they... sort of.. smack you around, but they dont do damage, they just throw you outside the city... someone else said they made it into the city and i was trying for 30 minutes.... maybe when we get a higher level sneak..<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I was hanging inside Qeynos (yes, I'm evil) all last night.  They see right through sneak, hostile or no.  And looks like they will continue to do so forever.</DIV>

[Dormam]

<DIV>I got the rat pet and kinda wish I hadnt.  True it was only 14 silver....but I am not so sure I will get 14 silvers worth of fun out of it.  All it can do is follow you around and half the time it gets behind (you can outrun it) and it gets lost.  As a class flavor option - its pretty flavorless.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dormammu wrote:<BR> <DIV>I got the rat pet and kinda wish I hadnt.  True it was only 14 silver....but I am not so sure I will get 14 silvers worth of fun out of it.  All it can do is follow you around and half the time it gets behind (you can outrun it) and it gets lost.  As a class flavor option - its pretty flavorless.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Tsk tsk.  Sounds like someone doesn't know how to relax.  Think about it!  A Ratonga and his pet rat!  Oh, the adventures.  Maybe you can claim it's your wife.  Or your son.  Your father?  Some other relate.  Maybe claim it's a miniature giant space rat and you found it some time after injuring your head.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What about this?  Claim it's your womanizing little brother.  Oh, he gets into so much trouble.  HEY!  Stop looking up that Barmaid's dress.  Silly rat.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Demon Wraith on <span class=date_text>11-22-2004</span> <span class=time_text>05:43 PM</span>

[Dormam]

<DIV>Actually the most fun I had with it so far is when I did a /moon in the rats face......my buddies replied that seeing that...was just...wrong...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Heh.</DIV>

[Buadyen]

Assassin pet rats and wizard cat familiars ignore each other, too. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[superrans]

<DIV>I've been rolling around with another assassin lately who has the rat pet. The pet seems pretty useless but every once in a while the pet manages to get aggro. Even in EQ1 I never was a class with pets so I dunno if my buddy is using some sort of /pet taunt command or something, but just shows that they can actually do something. I prolly won't waste the money on it yet. If I wanna see a rat, I can just look at myself.</DIV>

[EvL_Kraze]

<DIV>where exactly do you get the rat pat i want it extremely bad.</DIV>

[Elv]

<DIV>How about you pay me 14 silver. Ill follow you around in game for a bit. I wont help you.. or talk to you. In fact after 10 min or so Ill just go off in my own direction. That way we both win. You get to see what its like to have a rat pet, and I get my 14 silver back. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Deal ?</DIV>

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Elvar wrote:<BR> <DIV>How about you pay me 14 silver. Ill follow you around in game for a bit. I wont help you.. or talk to you. In fact after 10 min or so Ill just go off in my own direction. That way we both win. You get to see what its like to have a rat pet, and I get my 14 silver back. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Deal ?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>You have to do it permanently and be at my beck and call all the time anytime.  None of this for a little while crap.</P> <P> </P> <P>If I only get to have you as a pet for a little while, you only get a little of your silver back.  Say... 2 coppers?</P><p>Message Edited by Demon Wraith on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>05:48 AM</span>

[Elv]

<DIV>I was actually repling to <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=11044" target=_blank><SPAN>EvL_Kraze</SPAN></A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>.. and I summoned out my RAT twice since I purchased it for a total of about 5 min at most. So in that senerio 5min = 14silver *rounded 1 min = 60 sec ,, 60 sec x 5 = 300 sec ...   300 sec divided by 14 silver = *amount of sec per silver   21.4sec  1 silver = 100 cp.  21.4 sec divided into 100 cp = amount of copper per second my rat is worth. *to date  Grand Total  >>  4.6 copper per second </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cheerz~!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Elvar wrote:<BR> <DIV>I was actually repling to <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=11044" target=_blank><SPAN>EvL_Kraze</SPAN></A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>.. and I summoned out my RAT twice since I purchased it for a total of about 5 min at most. So in that senerio 5min = 14silver *rounded 1 min = 60 sec ,, 60 sec x 5 = 300 sec ...   300 sec divided by 14 silver = *amount of sec per silver   21.4sec  1 silver = 100 cp.  21.4 sec divided into 100 cp = amount of copper per second my rat is worth. *to date  Grand Total  >>  4.6 copper per second </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cheerz~!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Well, then you paid alot for it.  Me and EvL probably are going to have it out quite a bit longer than that.</DIV>

[Grinda]

where do you buy this useless pet from?ive looked everywhere and cant find it.

[Dormam]

<DIV>North freeport at the trainers just north of the library.</DIV>

[EvL_Kraze]

<DIV>man ... i still cant find the rat ... where is this **ZOMG** thing?</DIV> <DIV>ewww nvm i found it by the tree</DIV><p>Message Edited by EvL_Kraze on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>01:25 PM</span>

[Sem]

<DIV>Hey Smeg</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yeah I have this rat and Smeg and I were playing about with it at Owlbears in Nektulos. Ocassionally it would draw huge aggro with its "little rat noises" and would tank an Owlbear pretty well despite being "Just for show".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I actually saw it attack once, I was fighting Wisps in Nektulos and they AoEd as they do. Roland went berserk and proceeded to lay into the Wisps, not stopping until they all lay dead. Maybe he does have potential as a working pet after all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Semetta Bloodbath</DIV> <DIV>Assassin</DIV> <DIV>Crushbone</DIV>

[Iccurus]

<DIV>personally, I'm glad I bought it for 14sp. Earlier today it took a rampage (which killed it) but it saved our tank, which was worth the 14sp in my opinion.</DIV>

[Mjk_cz]

For anybody who cannot find the rat combat art, you can buy it in north freeport, opposite side from dark elf/ fg access quest <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Close to the BIG tree there are 3 trainers selling skills. Rat pet is curently broken, you can buy it, cast it, it can follow, stand still, that's all, it will never attack, guard etc you. It makes some squeeking noise and it's BIG rat like rats in FG. Also it can take occasional hit from enemies so if you got high fps already np to use it as light meatshield. Hopefuly later they will fix it so it will be able to attack some<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[PassingStranger]

<DIV>I personally think we kinda get jipped in the whole level 20 special skill thing. Both Crusaders get a horse and we get a rat. Pfft.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Though I suppose some of the others are useless too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But yeah, like some others have mentioned, it did draw aggro for me once. I was sneaking past a hostile with the rat pet out, and it aggroed on the rat. Not that it was particularly useful, since because it doesn't fight, it won't hold any aggro or anything.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Most useful thing it does is bother your friends <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[gaarder]

I have to say I am a very happy owner of my new pet rat. Yes it drove me mad a few times messing up my wooden furnitures at home, yes it cost me a few deaths saying hi to its cousin the bat in Nektulos Forest, yes sometimes it goes crazy in group and over taunt the main tank. Oh and that cleric gave me a face when I was asking him to heal my poor Gonobi...But then a lone assassin needs company at times. Alone deep in enemy territory, nothing is better than a trusty pet rat who listens and will never sell your secrets to nobody. And oh I enjoy yelling MICEEEEE while jumping onto that cute dark elf in the group...

[Theo]

<DIV>lemiwinks~</DIV>

[Grinda]

thing is useless, only use i found for it is when soloing you can agro enemies using stalk, and they go for the rat instead of you.other than that its totaly useless, unlike the SK/Palladins horse.Wizards also get gipped too.. they get an equally useless pet cat.Wardens and furys get to turn into a wolf or a lioness respectivley, and i hear that when they do their stats slightly improve.sort the rat out! even if it just attacks for like 5dmg every 2 sec its beter than just sitting there like an idiot.Only real fun i have had with it, is sneaking into Baubleshire, going stealthed, joining the Wholesalers there and then running around the wholesalers using slipaway and watching the reaction from the gnome chars inside.. some ran away from ratty! heh was fun for a bit.

[Ryzori]

<DIV>Rat pet needs a revamp. Currently, it's garbage. I understand "fun" spells but...come on...having a horse is FUN. Having a pet rat follow you around without any function is fun for about...2 minutes...5 if you're really patient.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[syniste]

I dunno - I think it's useful. I started a thread about it, but you can set up your rat to get agro when you solo. With the mob's back turned to you, you're able to do a bit more damage per fight than you normally would otherwise. Once in a great while, I can get my rat to keep agro for an entire fight - I've gotten him down to about 25% health. He takes a nice beating =)If you experiment with it a little, you might find a use for him when you solo.

[cweav]

<blockquote><hr>Grindath wrote:its totaly useless, unlike the SK/Palladins horse.Wizards also get gipped too.. they get an equally useless pet cat.Wardens and furys get to turn into a wolf or a lioness respectivley, and i hear that when they do their stats slightly improve.</blockquote>SK/Paladin horse is neat looking but it's not any faster than Pathfinding. The Warden/Fury spell to turn them into wolf/lion form is NOT their goofy level 20 spell. The Fury level 20 "fun" spell coats their target in glowy dust. That's it. If you think a pet rat isn't cooler than that, then you're crazy. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Skarr_Vect]

<DIV>This thread was a good laugh.</DIV>

[alerka]

<DIV>Since this is a MMORPG, I see no problem if the rat did nothing other than stand there and squeak. I find anything that helps you feel immersed in the game environment is a plus to a RPG.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, I am sure that SOE has something in store for the rat in the future. My guess is that the rat will occasionally taunt the mob off of you so that you can use backstabs while soloing more effectively. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The problem was the rat was probably taunting too well and being used as a meatshield, which was overpowering the class. I'm sure they are working out a way of balancing it where the rat only draws the mobs attention for a split second so you have to pay attention and backstab appropriately.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Don't hold your breath though. Enjoy the rat for what it is: a fun aspect of being an assassin that take the game a notch further. Furniture doesn't do jack either, but you still see people shelling out loads of money on it.</DIV>

[Grinda]

the SK horse is a LOT beter than pathfinding i think you will find.what you need to outrun it is a scout with good agility, journeymans boots, and SPRINT.also the cheapest horse that you can buy at the stables for 2pp + is only as good as the lvl 20 Pally/SK horse.hmm... bit unfair if you ask me.

[pjstyles]

we shouldve got a type of bird, like an evil bird, unlike the ranger bird instead of a ...rat. rats are the worst thing that i hate about everquest. ive had enough rats to deal with.

[swdrgn]

I used my rat down in groups in edgewater. Some of the mobs there do a random 400 point damage to the group. I found that having my pet rat out it lowers the percentage of me getting hit. There has been a few times where he has took a hit for me and even has died in my stead.

[Kimira]

<DIV>The rat is pretty useless.  Only reason I wasted money on him was because I'm a kerra, and having a rat follow a cat Is silly =).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm lvl 29, wondering what novelty we get at 30. </DIV>

[Elv]

<DIV>Illusion High Elf</DIV>

[Sem]

<DIV>We get nothing unusual at 30. Illusion High Elf is level 40.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Worth a mention though; you have to buy Deadly Shot (level 30 skill) from the trainers in North FP.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Semetta Bloodbath</DIV> <DIV>35 Dark Elf Assassin (Malefic)</DIV> <DIV>Crushbone</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sem on <span class=date_text>12-13-2004</span> <span class=time_text>02:45 PM</span>

[Zeroimagination]

<DIV>1) My rat has died for me several times while I leg it to the zone line on those monsters that absolutely refuse to stop chasing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) and noticably less effective, he seems to squeak more when there's baddies around.  I leave him out when I'm harvesting around reds, and I'm pretty convinced that when he starts squeaking like mad that it's time to leg it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I think would be really really cool is if while you're stealthed and a baddie looks right at you, if the rat is near you, they see him and think that whatever aroused their suspicion was the rat.  That doesn't happen, but it'd be nice.</DIV>

[Stormewol]

<DIV>Early warning rat?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guess were not good enough for a guard dog :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Katanari]

<DIV>I have to agree its a pretty worthless pet. Only thing fun with it is when my Fury friends turns it into a lion.. than atleast its a cool looking pet than lol. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If nothing else atleast have it raise our str and agil or something.. give it some reall benifit like the crusader horses.</DIV>

[Buadyen]

Except that the assassin rat has no additional benefit, which is exactly how it's supposed to be. The fact that the Crusader horses give a speed buff is a bug, as has been said many times over.However, if the devs were to suddenly have a change of heart and add some benefit to the fluff spells, I think it'd make more sense for the Predator pets to provide some sort of scouting capability, much like the Eye of Zomm spell from EQLive.That seems to fit better overall than having a pet rat give stat buffs.

[ZenRenaga]

<DIV>I love my rat. I was in Nek and it pulled a Owlbear off me. I finished that bear off with a few more ranged attacks. The rat does more then we think.</DIV>

[Amise]

<DIV>I love my rat too.  I don't care that she doesn't do anything it's just supposed to be a fun spell and that's how I see it.  I like having her follow me around squeaking while I'm soloing, it's much more fun farming grey mobs for heritages and stuff when you have a rat for company.   </DIV><p>Message Edited by Amise on <span class=date_text>03-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:49 AM</span>

[Elv]

<DIV>Its funny how this thread made a come back. Im intial post was back in Nov. When 14s was ALOT. Funny how times change... Now it doesnt seem like that big of a deal considering the economy balanced out a bit. But now at Lv 47.. my pet will get barraged once for 1k + dmg and be toast. So now I can officially say its  " useless " maybe not " pointless ".. cause some ppl enjoy having it around. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Personally Id prefer a Raven or a Crow. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[GrudgePluck]

<DIV>I <3 rat pet.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In FG earlier tonight, I had my rat out, and we were going through the corridors by the ogre zombies. Well those zombies are bugged, dont aggro and cant be attacked (unless someone knows  workaround, I sure dont and nobody in my group did) well after standing around a second, both zombies attacked me and only me at different times, opening them up to be attacked. I can only assume it was because they didnt like the rat squeeking. Best 14 silver I ever spent.</DIV>