Assassin FAQs

[Elundil0908]

<DIV>Thanks for the info all  have no problem getting behind the enemy and using sneak attack now</DIV>

[Sobeli]

Had someone call me a newb in a group today because I stealthed while waiting for main tank to pull to our group. I was stealthing to anticipate the pull and get in a Silent Blade. When I asked why I was a newb, this supposed font of knowledge player informed me that stealthing creates aggro and generates hate.Rather than argue, I simply said "not always".My understanding is that if an aggressive creature spots you and blows your stealth, it attacks -- like *any* creature would that spots you. Aggressive creatures that don't spot me never attack until I attack.That said, I think the only way I can generate aggro and hate is by using my powerful attacks too soon in the battle, not simply by being stealthed.Any comments on this?

[Demon Wrai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sobelius wrote:<BR>Had someone call me a newb in a group today because I stealthed while waiting for main tank to pull to our group. I was stealthing to anticipate the pull and get in a Silent Blade. When I asked why I was a newb, this supposed font of knowledge player informed me that stealthing creates aggro and generates hate.<BR><BR>Rather than argue, I simply said "not always".<BR><BR>My understanding is that if an aggressive creature spots you and blows your stealth, it attacks -- like *any* creature would that spots you. Aggressive creatures that don't spot me never attack until I attack.<BR><BR>That said, I think the only way I can generate aggro and hate is by using my powerful attacks too soon in the battle, not simply by being stealthed.<BR><BR>Any comments on this?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> The guy is an idiot.  It does nothing of the sort.

[Dormam]

<DIV>If you do activate the "hunt" ability (at least I think its hunt) which is supposed to lower your aggro to a critter while stealthing up, it will aggro a mob if it is not currently attacking anyone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have actually used this skill to pull mobs up in the air that I couldnt otherwise reach, like wisps.</DIV>

[sag]

<DIV>If you do activate the "hunt" ability (at least I think its hunt) which is supposed to lower your aggro to a critter while stealthing up, it will aggro a mob if it is not currently attacking anyone.</DIV> <DIV>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i think that's actually 'stalk' that does that...since its a 'combat-only' skill it apparently begins combat even if you haven't engaged - if you have the mob targeted pre-comnbat and use stalk, you will initiate</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anyway - who do you talk to to start the assasin quest?</DIV>

[khalysta]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sagun wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anyway - who do you talk to to start the assasin quest?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>emissary mitsia<BR>

[Sobeli]

<blockquote><hr>sagun wrote:<DIV>If you do activate the "hunt" ability (at least I think its hunt) which is supposed to lower your aggro to a critter while stealthing up, it will aggro a mob if it is not currently attacking anyone.</DIV><DIV>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>i think that's actually 'stalk' that does that...since its a 'combat-only' skill it apparently begins combat even if you haven't engaged - if you have the mob targeted pre-comnbat and use stalk, you will initiate</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>One other note you all may also be aware of from experience:If you miss a stealthed attack skill because the target moved out of range, you don't break stealth BUT your melee attack is engaged. If you don't turn off your basic melee attack before trying to get close to the target, you will attack and break stealth.Question on a combo move I've used and notice a difference:If I use the Lucky Break > Cheap Shot > Bleed chain, and get a Ringing Blow, the final damage output is much higher than other chains that lead to Ringing Blow. I'm guessing here that the benefit of the ringing blow is a free 'stun' on the target, while the damage is based on the skills used for the chain (i.e. Bleed causes more dmg than other sword-icon chain moves, so naturally this chain leads to more dmg). Anyone know if this is true, or if certain HO chains cause more dmg depending on which skills were used for the chain -- as in a dmg bonus for using certain skills in the chain?

[malla]

<DIV>That right, stalk is the combat only stealth that can be used for pulling. Here is the cool part, since it also lowers your threat lvl (agro) you wont be the one beeing hit most of the time (in a group that is).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Target the mob in question (makeing sure that the other are ready)</DIV> <DIV>2. Hit the key for Stalk, causing the mob to agro, BUT since you lower your agro...that is already zero since you havent attacked him the person closest to the mob will be attacked (so the tank in question should try and be the closest).</DIV> <DIV>3. fight!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[MMag]

<DIV>question about becoming an assassine</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ok if i create a character kerra start in quenos as a predator </DIV> <DIV>at lev 19 can't i just go to freeport and finish the assassine quest and come back to quenos as an assassine</DIV> <DIV>or do i have to go through the betrayel quest to become an assassine and switch to freeport as my home town</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i want to become a good assassine (hehehe)</DIV>

[Dhar]

<blockquote><hr>Sobelius wrote:Had someone call me a newb in a group today because I stealthed while waiting for main tank to pull to our group. I was stealthing to anticipate the pull and get in a Silent Blade. When I asked why I was a newb, this supposed font of knowledge player informed me that stealthing creates aggro and generates hate.Rather than argue, I simply said "not always".My understanding is that if an aggressive creature spots you and blows your stealth, it attacks -- like *any* creature would that spots you. Aggressive creatures that don't spot me never attack until I attack.That said, I think the only way I can generate aggro and hate is by using my powerful attacks too soon in the battle, not simply by being stealthed.Any comments on this?<hr></blockquote>Actually, he's semi-right.If your tank started to pull a group, but the group hasn't engaged in combat, and you begin to "hunt", aggro will switch to you. I think sneak does this as well, but not sure. I don't use sneak anymore. But I've had this happen a few times where the mobs were incoming, I triggered "hunt", and they attacked me instead of the tank.

[LyamSham]

<DIV>Awesome info thanks for taking the time to put it all together</DIV>

[scivias]

<blockquote>Actually, he's semi-right.If your tank started to pull a group, but the group hasn't engaged in combat, and you begin to "hunt", aggro will switch to you. </blockquote>As a simple rule, all stealths that require you to select a target ere you can use them are bound to produce hate to the target. Everything that gets you stealthed without having to select a target and thus without initiating combat is harmless.So you can stealth all day long while you wait for the tank to pull the mob, calling you a newb because of it is not semi-right, its just false.

[Vai]

<DIV>From what I can tell, if a group member aggros something, it will aggro everybody in the group.  So for example if the group bruiser goes out and pulls a group of mobs but for whatever reason he dies enroute back to the group, even if you are stealthed the mobs'll eventually get to you, sooner or later.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not 100% sure that is the case, but my guess is that stealth is not possible (with the aggro'd mob or mobs) when you're in the group and somebody in the group has aggro.  Else, stealth would be the greatest skill ever because it'd be better than FD!</DIV>

[brulgard]

<DIV>Not true at all.  I can pull aggro from a tank that's recently pulled by hunting only, and it doesn't require a target.  Going into stealth mode while a tank has little hate against him will instantly pull the aggro to you.  I can repeat this if you'd like to see it in game.</DIV>