Player telling me I was wearing mage armor

[sr22ger]

I was in a group last night in CT that was going fairly well, except for having to swap in and out players for not paying attention or just had to leave.  Basically got a full level in a couple hours, so I was happy.  Then along came this rng the leader invited.  I escaped us out to catch him at the entrance and not 30 secs after he zoned in he was commenting on my armor."You need to invest in some fulginate(sp?) gear, your wearing mage gear!"I promptly explained to him that I wasn't so interested in Mitigation, but more so in str....And before I could finish that I try to arrange my gear by str 1st, agi 2nd and int 3rd, he stated I 'NEED' agi only.I dropped the conversation at that point and was going to let the parser do the talking, which it did.  I was basically out dpsing the other rng 2-1.  But of course the other rng quickly pointed out his 1400 dmg shot, which I kinda laughed at since 1400 is on the lower side of what Hidden Fire does for me.  Again didn't open my mouth.Anyways, this really irked me considering I spend a lot of time upgrading my gear and bow CA's to keep myself parsing at the top of my xp groups, regardless of class competition.  And yes I still die alot from taking aggro from the MT, but I am slowly learning how to deal with it with poisons and ca's.  So my question is am I right in going for stats before mitigation for a group oriented rng?  If I take aggro and die, I put it on me in not being more cautious with my hate.So here is a link to a <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=259254108" target=_blank>profile</a> of myself.  I would post the link to the other individual but I am not for calling out people on forums, just looking for advice.I am still in the process of upgrading my gear for T5, but keep finding ways into good xp groups or guild hq groups and it has kept me from harvesting more to afford the rest of the stuff I want.  My str is more than 100 points over and my agi is more than 50 points (lol) over the rng in question.  Any even my attack is within 2 points of the other rng who is 4 levels above me.  Any answers would be appreciated.  I have looked through some profiles of rng's my level and they seem to be scattered across the board, some having basically no str and others comparable to what I am going for.  Thanks!<div></div>

[Hisvet]

<P>Well from what I understand of the combat changes avoidance and such is not armor but class based now.  The difference between a leather wearing ranger and a chain one will just be in the stats it gives.  We are also now a SPLIT POOL class.  We get our power pool from both agility and strength now.  Int is for procing and if you use poisons *really* use poison not grab one off an npc vendor and want proccing off of CAs then thats for you.  </P> <P>As a lvl 70 raiding ranger my priorities are STR INT AGIL in that order.  When I didn't raid It was STR AGIL.  So I"d say you're doing pretty good and aware of your stats and affects.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Hisvet on <span class=date_text>12-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:47 AM</span>

[Badaxe Ba]

Keep doing what works for you.  Stats are important, as well as mitigation and avoidance.  And if the parser has you at or near the top, you are on the right track.   Its about finding the balance that lets you play your character well.  I will say that better mitigation wouldn't hurt you much, there are chain and leather armor pieces with comparable stats as the chestpiece you have on.  And the mitigation will help you survive that much longer, hopefully so your tank can get the aggro back away from you.  "A dead ranger don't dps nuttin" is a mantra to remember.  You can also tell that mage, you'd happily receive any donations towards armor he wishes to provide. Then buy more arrows.

[sr22ger]

<div></div>Thanks for the advice guys.  I do in fact use the proper tier broker bought poisons, and that is why I focus somewhat on int as well.  Its a pretty noticeable increase in poison damage even with minor increases in int.  I'll be sure to focus on it more now.  I do plan on upgrading the lvl 30ish pieces, just haven't found the moeny yet.  Mainly the reason I have bought leather in some cases was because of the price vs stat thing where leather can be much cheaper for the same stats as chain.And yes I do parse on top of all of my parties, really its not even very close most of the time.  That's why when I got this comment I was kinda irked lol.<div></div><p>Message Edited by sr22ger on <span class=date_text>12-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:47 AM</span>

[Gareorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sr22ger wrote:<BR><BR>And before I could finish that I try to arrange my gear by str 1st, agi 2nd and int 3rd, he stated I 'NEED' agi only.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I said in another thread, "There are some truely horrible Rangers in this game", as you can see. </P> <P>You are on the right track.  Since our power pool is now a dual stat pool, AGI may not be as important as it once was.  I agree that INT may help more than AGI these days, but there isn't a lot of gear with both STR and INT on it.  I always look for STR first and INT second.  It seems that just about everything we can wear has AGI anyway so I've sort of come to ignor that stat lately.</P> <P>But this comes from a raiding point of view.  If you plan to mostly group and solo, this may not work out so well for you.  You may need the avoidance that comes with the extra AGI.  In which case, I agree totally with your priorities.</P>

[Sulas]

I mostly wore imbued leather for my 40s and it served me fine (Granted this was before the changes which are currently in effect.)I am near exclusively a soloer, and ultimately chose to go with rare imbued chain for my 50s.  Now that I'm nearing my 60s, I'll have to re-assess that, but as a soloer, I just like the mitigation of chain.  I also focus on Str first, since Agi seems to come on everything anyway.  My second concern has been Int, just cause I like poison...  With my current gear I have no problems with single MoBs that are 1-2 levels above me.  I haven't tried even-con^ in a while and I doubt I'd survive yellow^.I'm impresses with your stats.  If you want to compare yourself to a casual soloer: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=149443101" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=149443101</a><div></div>

[TaleraRis]

The only reason that Gwyn is currently in melodic xegonite is because I wanted to work on Int. I was a pure leather wearer previously, as the benefits of the increased avoidance were too valuable in my playstyle versus the mitigation chain would provide me. Basically, if I got close enough to get hit, I was close enough to die to it. It was always much better to avoid getting hit entirely. I wanted to up my Int because it was pitiful, because it's always nice when poisons proc for you, even when you're out soloing. But there is nothing wrong with being a leather wearer and str is definitely just as much as a priority, especially now, as agi is.<div></div>

[sr22ger]

Solo wise, I can hold my own really, but I do much better when I have room to work.  My goal is always to kill the mob before it gets to me, so avoidance or mit again really doesn't concern me for that end.  I can kill green ^^^ named 9-10 levels below me, but I have to kite them with our three snares and not get any adds doing so.  Last night I started the basement access quest in Nek Castle to continue on with a couple HQ's, and I was able to kill Ellsie (35 ^^^ when I was 44), but had to kite her up and down the catwalk she was on and probably ended up with 5% health lol.  She was hitting me for 350-450 when I had to turn her around though.  I do like your cobalt chain though, I'll have to look at that when I ding 52.<div></div>

[LoreLady]

<div><blockquote><hr>sr22ger wrote:I was in a group last night in CT that was going fairly well, except for having to swap in and out players for not paying attention or just had to leave.  Basically got a full level in a couple hours, so I was happy.  Then along came this rng the leader invited.  I escaped us out to catch him at the entrance and not 30 secs after he zoned in he was commenting on my armor."You need to invest in some fulginate(sp?) gear, your wearing mage gear!"I promptly explained to him that I wasn't so interested in Mitigation, but more so in str....And before I could finish that I try to arrange my gear by str 1st, agi 2nd and int 3rd, he stated I 'NEED' agi only.I dropped the conversation at that point and was going to let the parser do the talking, which it did.  I was basically out dpsing the other rng 2-1.  But of course the other rng quickly pointed out his 1400 dmg shot, which I kinda laughed at since 1400 is on the lower side of what Hidden Fire does for me.  Again didn't open my mouth.Anyways, this really irked me considering I spend a lot of time upgrading my gear and bow CA's to keep myself parsing at the top of my xp groups, regardless of class competition.  And yes I still die alot from taking aggro from the MT, but I am slowly learning how to deal with it with poisons and ca's.  So my question is am I right in going for stats before mitigation for a group oriented rng?  If I take aggro and die, I put it on me in not being more cautious with my hate.So here is a link to a <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=259254108" target="_blank">profile</a> of myself.  I would post the link to the other individual but I am not for calling out people on forums, just looking for advice.I am still in the process of upgrading my gear for T5, but keep finding ways into good xp groups or guild hq groups and it has kept me from harvesting more to afford the rest of the stuff I want.  My str is more than 100 points over and my agi is more than 50 points (lol) over the rng in question.  Any even my attack is within 2 points of the other rng who is 4 levels above me.  Any answers would be appreciated.  I have looked through some profiles of rng's my level and they seem to be scattered across the board, some having basically no str and others comparable to what I am going for.  Thanks!<div></div><hr></blockquote>Sounds like your doing everything just fine, it doesnt matter if your armor is leather or chain or cloth.. As long as it fits, and try and go for str/agil as much as you can... I wouldent worry about int at this stage of the game yet...</div>

[Saihung23]

<DIV>Dude!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You arent wearing a dress like those stinking finger wigglers are you?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you are...please keep your bow hidden....dont let anyone see one of us bad [Removed for Content] rangers in a man-dress!  Thats for the squishy mages!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/sigh</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What has this world come to when a ranger is wearing a dress </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/sob</DIV>

[Caliga]

Do you ever solo?  I guess mit doesn't matter if you never get hit.  But honestly, if I saw a ranger in all cloth I'd be laughing too.<div></div>

[Prandtl]

In my 40's I liked wearing the enchanted wicker armor from EL.  It was a pretty common drop from laminas, and every peice had nice delicious STR stats.  The heck with ebon when you are a ranger pauper!

[TaleraRis]

<div><blockquote><hr>pinkdove80 wrote:Do you ever solo?  I guess mit doesn't matter if you never get hit.  But honestly, if I saw a ranger in all cloth I'd be laughing too.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Look again. His armor is mostly leather. And if you're soloing right, you shouldn't be getting hit. If you're spending an overlong time in melee while soloing, then you're doing something wrong. </div>