Training Safe Fall?

[Spontz]

How should I go about increasing my Safe Fall skill?  I'm new to EQ2 rangering, and just hopping off of things doesn't seem to do it (except once I jumped off a ledge in the Elddar Grove, near a waterfall, and died instantly... no Safe Fall gain, but it was the first time I sustained damage from falling, and it was rather strange as it was no higher than any other ledge from which I'd plunged to a perfectly secure and painless landing).So what is the trick to gaining skill in Safe Fall without dying?

[Starwindz]

<DIV>lol dont jump from some place to high griffin towers work for a while but your gonna have to move up and you skill gets higher</DIV>

[Zholain]

<font size="2">You'll need to get it up over 100 or so (use the griffon towers), then go the the mage tower in South Qeynos.  Start with the lowest portal (I think it's the one on the right as you go in the tower).  Go in the portal, jump off...and keep on, working your way to the highest portal,  This is easiest because there's no running to get back to you jump-off point.  Jump..take a step..jump...boring as heck, but is very efficient.  You should be able to max it out in a couple of hours.</font><div></div>

[Taubin]

<div><blockquote><hr>Zholain wrote:<font size="2">You'll need to get it up over 100 or so (use the griffon towers), then go the the mage tower in South Qeynos.  Start with the lowest portal (I think it's the one on the right as you go in the tower).  Go in the portal, jump off...and keep on, working your way to the highest portal,  This is easiest because there's no running to get back to you jump-off point.  Jump..take a step..jump...boring as heck, but is very efficient.  You should be able to max it out in a couple of hours.</font><div></div><hr></blockquote>Will that work all the way to 350?  I've been stuck at 273 forever now lol</div>

[Spontz]

Thanks for the advice! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Corwinus]

Yes I reached 350 in the SQ Mage tower, it works.Corwin - Oasis<div></div>

[TimidMou]

Safe fall got slightly more tricky since the falling damage update in EOF, nonetheless, I have had success jumping down from Kelethin.

[Ranja]

<div><blockquote><hr>TimidMouse wrote:<div></div>Safe fall got slightly more tricky since the falling damage update in EOF, nonetheless, I have had success jumping down from Kelethin.<hr></blockquote>I jumped down from Kelethin all the time and have never gotten a skill up from it. I am at 280/350 and the only place I can get a skill up is SQ tower from the hgihest point. I even went to Sol Eye once and jumped all the way down from the top walkway to Nagafen's walkway. Talk about a shortcut<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[TimidMou]

One thing about Kelethin is that not all the ground is level. I can still get points at 300+ safefall but it matters where you jump and where you land.

[Spontz]

Safe Fall is really beginning to irritate me.  I've gained three points in it so far, and all three times I had to die to gain that point.  I jumped off the griffon tower about twenty times without gaining a point (and usually without damage, there's apparently ONE PIXEL on which I can land and take damage and thus, I guess, have a chance at gaining Safe Fall skill).  I jumped off the tree in the Elddar Grove, and once nothing happened, and once I died and gained a point.  I found a small cliff in Antonica from which I could jump and take damage, did that about twenty times, and only gained a point the one time I overshot and died.Is there any way to gain Safe Fall at low levels without dying?  It only seems to happen about a third of the time even then, so I can see myself racking up an XP debt it would take six weeks to undo before maxing out the skill. <span>:smileymad:</span><div></div>

[TimidMou]

The problem with training safefall now is the fact that there are new mechanics which make it so that if you fall less than a certain distance you take no damage, then alot of damage if you exceed that. It didn't always use to be this way. You can use the ramp in the commonlands to train safefall as you can go up the ramp as far as needed before falling, hope that helps.

[Mary the Prophetess]

<P>I have a REAL problem with my Fae Ranger.  Because of 'Glide', I can't seem to train in 'Safe Fall' at all!</P> <P>And, yes, Faes <STRONG>DO</STRONG> need 'Safe Fall', as 'Glide' suspends in combat.</P> <P>I have heard purchasing a mount will let me bring up my skill, but that's a damned expensive skill to train in under those circumstances.</P> <P>Any advice?</P>

[Sulas]

If Glide suspends in combat, could you engage a MoB that will take a long time to kill you and then start jumping off cliffs?  I was going to suggest getting into a duel, but realized you would leave the combat circle ...<div></div>

[pseudocide]

<DIV>the order of portals in SQ mage tower from lowest to highest is blue => red => yellow =></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>in case anyone was wondering o_0</DIV>

[Caliga]

<blockquote><hr>Mary the Prophetess wrote:<div></div> <p>I have a REAL problem with my Fae Ranger.  Because of 'Glide', I can't seem to train in 'Safe Fall' at all!</p> <p>And, yes, Faes <strong>DO</strong> need 'Safe Fall', as 'Glide' suspends in combat.</p> <p>I have heard purchasing a mount will let me bring up my skill, but that's a damned expensive skill to train in under those circumstances.</p> <p>Any advice?</p><hr></blockquote>Find a mystic and ask for their walking underwater buff and start diving off a cliff into a body of water.  You will hit the bottom.<div></div>

[Countzero]

<P>I have found the teleporter from floor 1 to floor 2 in Vaults (of Elarad?) in BArren Sky to be the best way to work up safe fall.</P> <P> </P> <P>IF you're in t7, just get into one of those groups, request nicely to have the mobs around the teleporter cleared.. </P> <P> </P> <P>After you complete the zone and get screwed out of a class hat (again)  go back the ther teleporter on the ground floor, port up to level 2... there's a hole right there leading to the ground floor (and the teleporter).</P> <P>The safe fall checks as soon as you hit the ground, after dmg is dealt or mitigated the porter will spring u back to level 2.</P> <P>Wash RInse Repeat.</P> <P>I had a conjuror friend port me up after she was done with the instance on my lvl 37 Swash.  Ooooh did 185 safe fall feel nice.  I can jump of n'marr's ascent with little or no dmg.</P> <P> </P> <P>AS for fae.. yer stuffed on that tactic... the devs need to put in a fae ability to turn off glide... sorry.. just coz u have wings don't mean u got to use em all the time.. as the birds.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[TerriBlades]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GTaubin wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zholain wrote:<BR><FONT size=2>You'll need to get it up over 100 or so (use the griffon towers), then go the the mage tower in South Qeynos.  Start with the lowest portal (I think it's the one on the right as you go in the tower).  Go in the portal, jump off...and keep on, working your way to the highest portal,  This is easiest because there's no running to get back to you jump-off point.  Jump..take a step..jump...boring as heck, but is very efficient.  You should be able to max it out in a couple of hours.<BR></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Will that work all the way to 350?  I've been stuck at 273 forever now lol<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If that doesnt, Use the wing at Drednever Crash site.. Its what I would do to cap my safefall while waiting on the rest of the raid way back when.

[TaleraRis]

Bounce!I've found, just like in EQ1 for those of us who had monks there, that bouncing down a cliff tends to get me more safe fall skill ups than just freefalling. Now it's tricky. You don't want to jump jump. You want to sort of tumble down, so you take damage, but not too much damage, and you get a lot of contact with the cliffside. I haven't tried it as much since the fall changes, but it did still seem to be working last time I went to work on safe fall.<div></div>

[Bre]

<P>The sides of the Halls of Fate Isle in the Bonemire work well for the method Gwyneth suggested. Also instead of relying on a mystic to give you free movement in the water you can use a Gnomish Floatation Device (equipaple at lvl 5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Throw on a Rebreather (equipable at lvl 49) and you are set. </P> <P>I trained the last 50 or so of my safe fall pts on the isle of the ravasect in the bonemire. There is a cliff to the left there, if you are looking away from the dock, that is up a ways past the epics spawns kinda right above one of the undead towers. You can invis and jump off as long as ya want.  And get a little hunting in when the mood strikes ya. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>Brega, 70 Ranger Test Server</P>

[afeather]

There is also an adornment for cloaks that reduces falling damage. I found it invaluable in training up safefall

[Ranja]

I am at safefall 280 and have not had a skill up in probably over 6 months. I think it is broken. I have fallen to my death many times trying to get a skill up and with 280 in safefall that is a very long fall. I don't get skill up in SQ tower anymore and I rarely take damage jumping from Kelethin. I have stopped trying as there is obviouslly something wrong with it and 280 protects me from most falls anyways.

[Prandtl]

Strange.. My safe fall is stuck at 275 and I havent had a skill up in months.  The red portal in SQ mage tower is too low, I dont get skill ups.  The yellow portal is too high, I die every time.  Is there anywhere in between?  I sure havent found it yet!  Or else the skill up is completely broken

[Gareorn]

It's been about six months now for me too.  I'm stuck at 230.  Spent 2 hours in the mage tower a while back jumping.  Took damage each time, yet nothing.

[afeather]

If your dieing in the mage tower get an adornment for a cloak. The T5 one reduces damage by 25% and the T6 by 30%. That should be enough to keep you alive from the fall from the yellow platform at your level. It is just that it takes a lot more jumps at that level to get a skillup. You will be jumping for hours to max up lol.

[Gareorn]

Hours?  It's broke right now.  Thousands of jumps so far without a skill-up.  And I'm not dying.  Taking damage, but not dying.

[GuardianOfTheDe]

<p>I've gotten two to five level ups in a row while out in Antonica. From 90-100, it only took me 30 minutes while jumping off the North side of the spires in NQeynos by the griffon tower. </p><p>With pathfinder, I could run up the steep hill faster. </p><p>While in the Tower though, I don't seem to get any or it takes an hour to get 1 point. I'm only at 112, so I should still be leveling up fairly quicky. I still have to use the ledge before ground and I take some 300 points of damage so I hve to stop and wait every so often anywys.</p><p>I seem to get more levels if I take damage instead of just the system message.</p>