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<DIV>Well i though i'd post this to ask what others are doing.. Reason being i don't have many problems if i'm focused (no punt intended there) in doing good dps. New aa's have helped but myself and our other ranger who i'm sure will comment seem to top parse or there abouts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SO for those struggling what or how do your play your ranger? admitedly both me and the other ranger in guild have T8 ammo however i use rain caller bow and still do good damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Are your useing Focus aim properly? remember its 10seconds of 100% haste and if you have no dps buff then 94% , i tend to hit off selection, rain of arrows tripplevolley, devitalizing arrow or amazings shot if i have time. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hardly ever melee sometimes when all ranged CA's are down and say its labs and the enemies a droag i'll go in with master strike or rangers blade.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you use caustic poison? if not then why not? it'll add to your dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Try using potions to buff INT if your in a low INT grp or STR if there's no real str buffs in grp. Ask to get a coercer bruiser Zerker or dirge in grp anyone one of them will help buffs wise.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also some people aren't aware of the lvl 35 adept III spell called Honed reflexes it'll buff your haste.. if used in a macro with killing instict you again get 100%dps 100% haste quite handy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also set up a new tab window and have just your hits and crit hits you can thens see what works best for your. I find / found my short bow wurm to miss alot and i find i can put out much better dps with rain caller even though the bow has a lower dps rating. For Auto DR i'd switch to ghostly bow of blyze you can just put the bows on a hotbar and switch as needed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>THats all i can think off but it seems to work for me. As rangers you have to work for your dps.. Auto and timing is key and i've still not quite mastered it but i'm getting there.. IF anyone wants to add comments please do.. Although don't flame my methods just post yours. It'll be much more helpful to the discussion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks.</DIV>
Aroumon
12-08-2006, 09:31 PM
<DIV>Well I have done is cpmplain so far, but I have noticed in comparisin that I do do more damage than most rangers on parses. Our brigands are just that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good, that said I will now share some ranger knowledge that I have been holding back for a while.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First this post I don't agree with 100% but you have a good method none the less. To maximize dps you should never use Selection, rain of arrows or veilded fire with Foucs, you are wasting a good 75% crit chance on high cast time CAs. Yes it is about getting the right CAs off during your 10 second widow ( 15 seconds for me with the AA ) but you also have to let an auto attack through in between each attack.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bow I have is slightly better than the rain caller. This said the same strat could be employed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One incomming you should be in stealth and use your veilded fire, followed by your hawk ( if there is am ae that hasen't hit yet wait until just AFTER the ae to cast your hawk ) The next step is to cast Culling of the Weak, this will ensure that you are ready to unload your dps, because if aren't behind the mob you will lose over 200 dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The next step has the most timing involved. First off you use Focus Aim, usually a Arrow with hit and crit right after you cast it, with the additional 15 seconds you should be able to get off all your non-stealth CAs with time inbetween. I would suggest starting off with Devitilizing arrow just incase the target you are fighting is a brawler class. The rest is up to you, use high damage CAs first.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now....this is the part of the fight where ranger dps falls apart...unless..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The next thing which I know alot of other rangers will argue with me about is Stream of arrows. I believe with full Stream AA it actully maintains you dps. I usually hit for about 1300 per shot with my Offensive stance hitting about every other shot and my poison hitting about every third..If you have a dirge or conj in your group this part of the dpsing is actully better than using your CAs. What 5 AA points into stream does is lower the time it takes between each arrow and lower the duratio of the spell. Which is awsome for us rangers. a 1.1 casting time on each arrow will maintain your dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Once this has finished there will be a few ranged CAs up I suggest you use them, in cunjuction of casting honed reflexes and killer instinct. by the time you have finished the CAs that you are doing Stream should be back up and so should your hawk, cast your hawk then use stream.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you don't have 5 AA points into stream then it might be more bennifical for you to run in and melee until you have enough ranged abilitys to improve your dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Some random things that will help your dps:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Search for items that aren't bows that will proc off combat arts, and on attack ( note: these cannot be weapons, but CAN be shields ) Ulthors round shield of striking ( T5 shield Kinig Zalak the Ancient ) and Cryptic Metalic Coat ( T5 BP Meeting of the Minds ) are two great examples of dps increasers for rangers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Aroumon Highwind</DIV> <DIV>70 Ranger Najena</DIV> <DIV>Second Dawn</DIV>
jrisley69
12-08-2006, 11:07 PM
Honestly, i do what the first poster does in certain situations. if it's a group then i will do focus, selection, followed by hawk to reduce or transfer aggro then rain of arrows. i find that with the full 5 points into selection and rain you dont have as long a casting time as before and can get off another ca or 2 before its over. it's always nice to see rain or selection have that chance to Double attack too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>
Aroumon
12-09-2006, 06:13 AM
<DIV>CAs cannot double attack thanks for playing.</DIV>
jrisley69
12-09-2006, 06:39 AM
<div></div>actually i beg to differ, i have seen on many occasions my CA's double attacking. i'll throw out an art, then after it hits, it immediately cycles again and hits again. this is our bow CA's. Dont know if this is a bug but i watch my attack damage a lot during a fight and i notice this happening. Has anyone else seen this? <div></div><p>Message Edited by jrisley69 on <span class=date_text>12-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:41 PM</span>
Aroumon
12-09-2006, 06:41 AM
<DIV>even if selection or rain "magically" double attacked why the hell would focus matter?</DIV>
jrisley69
12-09-2006, 06:43 AM
whoa bro, you seem like your gettin [Removed for Content]. i just posted a opinion of what i do. helpin a brother out.<div></div>
Aroumon
12-09-2006, 06:52 AM
<DIV>CAs can't double attack dude, double attack only applys to autoattack.</DIV>
Aroumon
12-09-2006, 06:55 AM
<DIV>Sorry, I am not getting mad, I just had a very bad and long day at work, I didn't mean to come off in any sort of way. One tip though, you should toss our your hawk either before or after you hit focus, it will help your dps. Its wasting 1-2 seconds of precious fouc aim time.</DIV>
jrisley69
12-09-2006, 07:01 AM
K, i'll take another look at it, but i am pretty positive i have seen my Combat arts double attack or double cast. I.E. i shoot off snaring shot, it hits the mob, then the cast timer for snaring shots goes off again and hits him again. Could you other rangers keep an eye out on this.<div></div>
Balerius
12-09-2006, 09:26 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jrisley69 wrote:<BR>K, i'll take another look at it, but i am pretty positive i have seen my Combat arts double attack or double cast. I.E. i shoot off snaring shot, it hits the mob, then the cast timer for snaring shots goes off again and hits him again. Could you other rangers keep an eye out on this.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Neither your bow CAs nor your bow autoattack will do a double attack, unless you have the new double attack AA...in which your bow autoattack has a chance to double attack. Never have, never will.</P> <P>I think what some rangers perceive as a double attack is actually the timer on their autoattack expiring immediately following the completion of a bow CA. This often gives the appearance of two arrows being fired for one bow CA...when it is actually the arrow from the bow CA being immediately followed by a bow autoattack.</P>
TerriBlades
12-09-2006, 11:04 AM
<P>It actually sounds like he was interrupted during the use of a CA, and it tried to recast for him. I could be wrong, but that sorta fits what he was saying.</P> <P>They are right however. CA's dont have a chance to double attack, thats Autoattacks only.</P>
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