Ranger Gods

[Ranja]

I saw Tunare mentioned in the Ranger forums and it peaked my interest. Is this the best god for Rangers? Can we worship any god as long as it is proper alignment? If so, I assume each god will give different benefits. So, is it just a matter at looking at all the favors that each god gives and choosing the one that you think best fits your class?<div></div>

[Jodah]

<DIV>The gods don't like rangers thats why they suck balls and shoot styrafome arrows.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/edit forgot to mention I have a lvl 30 ranger</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Honestly I would pick any  god that lets me keep a distance from other players so I can get at least more than that first shot off.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Jodah66 on <span class=date_text>11-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:02 AM</span>

[Thorn4]

Well after reading the descriptions of the God Abilities <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=27287" target=_blank>here</a> I have to say I am pretty disappointed. Looks like melee classes and casters get some nifty abilites, but Tunare seems a little more tuned to healers (Summons 100 arrows? Increase Range Crit by 10% with a 1 hour recast, ugh) I guess I'll have to see once I get in game. Thoughts/Comments? <div></div>

[Teksun]

Do we as Rangers have to worship a good god or can we go neutral?<div></div>

[Ri]

Either good or neutral<div></div>

[TerriBlades]

<P>Nope, dont have to worship any god if you dont want to. </P> <P>This is another area where it would appear that Rangers are getting snubbed. I mean really, theres only one useful thing for rangers under Tunare, and I honestly dont think its worth the time or the effort to even bother. Frankly, it seems more like this was thrown in as an afterthought.  From what I have seen, none of the other gods will help rangers much either, unless you're a fan of melee.</P>

[Teksun]

I'm taking a real hard look at Brell... AOE's etc...

[TaleraRis]

I was already pretty much decided on Brell, just for RP reasons. With no real benefits from any other gods rangerwise, I'm going to stick with my decision. Been working on the deity quest on beta.<div></div>

[SpiralDown]

Tunare has more than just the arrow summoning/ ranged crit... the two that only help healing spells directly (though, I wonder if it would effect healing poison) are completely useless.  The root will help soloers, the 2 temp pets seems to go with our own  increasing list of temp pets, a couple will give anyone some druid skills, and a couple can probably be of use to anyone (along with the heals and pets) Only Ro seems completely useless, since you need to cast a spell for most of his stuff.  The rest have stuff anyone could want, heals, power regen, aggro control, pets and dmg spells. <div></div>

[Teksun]

<div><blockquote><hr>SpiralDown wrote:Tunare has more than just the arrow summoning/ ranged crit... the two that only help healing spells directly (though, I wonder if it would effect healing poison) are completely useless.  The root will help soloers, the 2 temp pets seems to go with our own  increasing list of temp pets, a couple will give anyone some druid skills, and a couple can probably be of use to anyone (along with the heals and pets) Only Ro seems completely useless, since you need to cast a spell for most of his stuff.  The rest have stuff anyone could want, heals, power regen, aggro control, pets and dmg spells. <div></div><hr></blockquote>On Tunare: Would the healing bonus' apply to the Healing Spells she gives???On Ro: I noticed in our Pred AA line they word our poisons like they are 'cast' as spells are. I wonder if they would count?</div>

[Dojoc]

and what do we know now ?tunare [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]s rangers every morning at breakfast into the back ....<div></div>

[Jay]

As far as I can tell, Tunare is the only one with any ability that directly helps rangers. And even Trueshot doesn't look all that impressive from where I'm standing, so maybe this will be just a matter of flavor for most of us.

[Deml]

<P>I fully believe there really is no choice for rangers with the current diety setup.  Not trying to be completely negative though, they have told us that these are not all of the gods that are returning though.  The ones we have now are just the first, and primary for events to come, but the rest of the panthion will be returning in time.  We're rangers, biding our time and sticking it out through things is what we do so just stick this out and hope that Karana has some abilities directly for rangers/scouts.</P> <P>Tunare really doesn't bring much for us at all but the forest spirit group heal over time proccing pet does proc a ton for us if you use it. =)</P>

[Teksun]

This at T1:Rift from Below (1125)6s duration, max AE targets 15Inflicts 2190-5109 crushing damage on targets in Area of EffectInflicts 344-803 crushing damage on targets in Area of Effect every 3 seconds_Throws target backPlus the fact that I craft, is enough to make me want to choose Brell<div></div>

[Anxi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Demlar wrote:<BR> <P>I fully believe there really is no choice for rangers with the current diety setup.  Not trying to be completely negative though, they have told us that these are not all of the gods that are returning though.  The ones we have now are just the first, and primary for events to come, but the rest of the panthion will be returning in time.  We're rangers, biding our time and sticking it out through things is what we do so just stick this out and hope that Karana has some abilities directly for rangers/scouts.</P> <P>Tunare really doesn't bring much for us at all but the forest spirit group heal over time proccing pet does proc a ton for us if you use it. =)</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There's really no good "scout" diety period.

[Jaggid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Teksun wrote:<BR>This at T1:<BR><BR>Rift from Below (1125)<BR>6s duration, max AE targets 15<BR>Inflicts 2190-5109 crushing damage on targets in Area of Effect<BR>Inflicts 344-803 crushing damage on targets in Area of Effect every 3 seconds_Throws target back<BR><BR>Plus the fact that I craft, is enough to make me want to choose Brell<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That does look very nice!

[Torrin]

I will have to find it again; but there was a post on the forums quoting a Dev at one point.What was quoted was that the Ranger class was never truely intended to be a Ranged-only class.  And that they were made to be a balance of Ranged and Melee.I think that is sort of the wording of it, might be a little off..What I'm getting at is any Diety abilities that will greatly help Rangers in Melee is a Must have!Our Ranged is powerful, and with nice bows we're the most dangerous ranged class topping casters..  But our Melee is sorely lacking.  I'm sure atleast some of you here know how challenging it is for a PvP Ranger against top tier Raid geared classes played by players who know what they're doing.  It is far too easy for a class to quickly close the distance between themselves and a Ranger for the Ranger to get anywhere near Maximum DPS against them.  That is where any Melee buffers will come in handy big time.  If I can get Diety abilities that will help me last longer hand to hand or do a bit more hand to hand damage, by god I'm taking them!  Will put me on fighting groudn against some of those Melee classes that don't like to give me any room <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So.. in parting I say this.Turn your largest weakness into your greatest Strength.Our Ranged CAs are already powerful, why make them more powerful when we can follow a different path and enhance our Melee fighting abilities? <div></div>

[TerriBlades]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rain420 wrote:<BR><BR><BR>Turn your largest weakness into your greatest Strength.<BR>Our Ranged CAs are already powerful, why make them more powerful when we can follow a different path and enhance our Melee fighting abilities? <BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>And what happens when other scouts use the same diety? That same greatest weakness will still be..... our greatest weakness.<BR></P> <P>And while I understand that we are a hybrid mix of ranged and melee, thats really no excuse for ignoring rangers, the one class that well benefit the least from deities being put in the game. I will not be doing any diety quests in the near future. Its just going to be a waste of time IMO. </P>

[SpiralDown]

<blockquote><hr>TerriBlades wrote: <blockquote> <hr> rain420 wrote:Turn your largest weakness into your greatest Strength.Our Ranged CAs are already powerful, why make them more powerful when we can follow a different path and enhance our Melee fighting abilities? <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>And what happens when other scouts use the same diety? That same greatest weakness will still be..... our greatest weakness.</p> <p>And while I understand that we are a hybrid mix of ranged and melee, thats really no excuse for ignoring rangers, the one class that well benefit the least from deities being put in the game. I will not be doing any diety quests in the near future. Its just going to be a waste of time IMO. </p><hr></blockquote>I think asking for a god that focuses on rangers is a bit greedy.  Of course the focus is on meleeing, everyone but mages melee.  Rangers are the only ones that use ranged combat. The god blessings and miracles will only be adding a boost, a max of twice an hour anyway.  Heck, you only need one blessing and miracle to be worth anything, since you can only have one of each at a time.  These things use will be for spiking DPS, healing, tanking or whatever on hard names or for those "oh crap" moments and having someone throwing an extra heal out will save the group from a whipe.  They could very easily be worthless outside of RP reasons or goofing around with a new toy.  Though, why skip content, especially if it does give something, not perfectly, but for sure something new and interesting?<div></div>

[Teksun]

Thre is a good chance that Bristlebane or Karana could  have something decent for us, when/if they make it <div></div>

[TaleraRis]

Fact of the matter is, intended or not, ranged is our primary method of fighting. It's where we have our heaviest hitters and the most of our CAs are focused around it. They don't have to focus a god around rangers to give boosts to rangers. DPS and haste boosts are good, to hit chances, temporary increases to not just melee crit on a skill but also ranged, etc. They could be incorporated without the gods having such a focus on melee boosts.<div></div>

[Balerius]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rain420 wrote:<BR>I will have to find it again; but there was a post on the forums quoting a Dev at one point.<BR>What was quoted was that the Ranger class was never truely intended to be a Ranged-only class.  And that they were made to be a balance of Ranged and Melee.<BR>I think that is sort of the wording of it, might be a little off..<BR><BR>What I'm getting at is any Diety abilities that will greatly help Rangers in Melee is a Must have!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>The issue to me isn't that there are no decent ranged deity abilities.  There aren't any melee ones either.</P> <P>The problem is that "Good" scouts don't have any decent deity abilities.  Swashys aren't too happy either.  Compare what is available from a good or neutral deity to what's available to an evil scout.  It isn't even close.<BR></P>

[Sylverlokk13]

Just wait till Karana gets released, I bet the bringer of storms has some good ranged miracles and blessings. <div></div>

[Wil81115]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sylverlokk13 wrote:<BR>Just wait till Karana gets released, I bet the bringer of storms has some good ranged miracles and blessings. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>And how long as we suppose to wait for this deity(another expansion?!?!?) to show up ?</P> <P> Oh I'm just suppose to buy the EoF expansion then pay for a "few" more months of playing and when they get around to it they'll add more deities, <STRONG><U>IF</U></STRONG> they add more..   /sarcasm off</P> <P>  While the new AA's do look better then any bones they have thrown to us in a while, they could still use a lot more tweaking. </P>