Our 10 second DPS+CRIT+HASTE buff

[Decipio243]

<DIV>Sorry all, I am at a training class and do not have the spell name in front of me... I just hit level 64 and took my 10 second buff for my M2 choice, figuring I would be using that most fights, and could possbly give me the most bang for my buck... I was wondering how you all use it most effectively...??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I assume the +Haste only works with autoattacks, correct? But with only a 10 sec duration, Thats one, maybe 2 shots before it wore off and seemd kinda pointless.  I tried popping it, then running thru as many ranged CA's as I could, and it seemed to make a big difference in my dps...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just curious how you all use it to be the most effective?</DIV>

[FluffyDestroyerofWorlds]

<div></div>I chose that one as well.  I have found the most effective way to use it is to use your fast-casting bow CAs first, perhaps with storm-of-arrows at the end.  Also, don't queue your CAs.  If you wait until one is complete before hitting the next one, you'll get in an auto-attack in which is where you'll have the possibility of getting in a buffed ranged crit.Smoothie Le'Clot - 70 RangerShadows & DustMistmoore<div></div><p>Message Edited by FluffyDestroyerofWorlds on <span class=date_text>10-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:08 AM</span>

[Gareorn]

<DIV>I normally use it in conjunction with the same abilitities each time.  Focus + Devitalizing + Tripple + Culling + Miracle.  I deviate from this situationally, but this is my norm.  I can get crits on those four each time and crits on two to three auto attacks for a total of six/seven crits by doing this.  I'm still using grizzlefazzle's bow with a 6 second delay.  I found this to be the most effective use for me.  I'll also use it on sniper and veiled from time to time.  I can get both those to crit plus one auto attack, for a tremendous amount of damage but it's not real good DPS due to the length of the cast timers and it will draw aggro if use too early in the fight.</DIV>

[Vaiko]

<P>Yes, haste and DPS buff is for auto attack only. The additional crit chance works on CAs as well.<BR>If you would not had any haste and DPS buff on you, from your group or from your self, the almost 100% haste and DPS short duration buff can increase your auto attack damage up to 4 times.<BR>The additional crit chance would increase this multiplier even a little bit further.<BR>A fully hasted 6 seconds delay bow would allow you around 3 auto attacks in that 10 seconds window which can deliver, with the right bow, up to 4k damage per arrow easily. Theoretically.</P> <P>Constrain one is you are already hasted from a item and self-buffs therefore the advantage is not so large anymore.<BR>Also your group mates may give you already a DPS buff, which will lower the benefit as well.</P> <P>I still feel that the short duration buff is useful because with the right AA setup you are able to squeeze about 70% of your ranged CAs into that 10 seconds time window and get the 3 auto attacks in that time as well. The CAs will benefit from the additional crit chance and the auto attack from all three effects. The additional ranged skill you get from the buff will help you hitting orange mob.<BR>It is not my first choice as M2 anyway but that’s up to you to decide for yourself.</P>

[Vaiko]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FluffyDestroyerofWorlds wrote: ...  Also, don't queue your CAs.  If you wait until one is complete before hitting the next one, you'll get in an auto-attack in which is where you'll have the possibility of getting in a buffed ranged crit. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You are going to get the auto attacks in between as well when the CAs are queued. There is no need to wait.

[Vaiko]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gareorn wrote: <DIV>I normally use it in conjunction with the same abilitities each time.  Focus + Devitalizing + Tripple + Culling + Miracle.  I deviate from this situationally, but this is my norm.  I can get crits on those four each time and crits on two to three auto attacks for a total of six/seven crits by doing this.  I'm still using grizzlefazzle's bow with a 6 second delay.  I found this to be the most effective use for me.  I'll also use it on sniper and veiled from time to time.  I can get both those to crit plus one auto attack, for a tremendous amount of damage but it's not real good DPS due to the length of the cast timers and it will draw aggro if use too early in the fight.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I try to start with a Veiled Fire, the long cast time allows the tank to place the mob at the right spot and gives her also a lead on agro. Then I use the two debuffs (parry, heat) followed by Focus Aim and the 7 quick casting ranged CAs. On mob groups, replacing 2 CAs by Rain of Arrow at the end may be a good option.

[Decipio243]

Thank you all VERY much for some GREAT information, exactly what I was looking for!

[Judist]

<P>Good pick, its allows you to solo some of the bigger heroics out there by taking them down to 50% before they reach ya (remember to throw in snaring shot). On raids you can use it as many as 4 times on a single encounter depending on your raids overall DPS.</P> <P>When EoF comes out and haste/dps is re-capped at 200%, this CA has the possibility of becoming a truely class defining skill.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Jayad]

Back when I was still a ranger, I switched out Focus Aim M2 for Selection M2.  There's not a lot of difference between Focus Aim M1 and M2 and it's easy to find the master.  The additional damage for Selection was more useful IMO.<p>Message Edited by Xney on <span class=date_text>10-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:30 AM</span>

[Torrin]

personally I went with Devitalize Master 2, the enhanced defense decrease plus the added damage I can Crit using it just about every other hit.  Which I already had the Selection M1, Focus Aim M1..  Right now I just wish I could find a Lunging Joust M1.. I'm tired of using my lv.50ish Root attack and have it resisted by everything and everyone.. I'd get an Adept 3 of it but Spongy just soo freakin expensive may as well just hold out for a M1.<div></div>

[Gerdos]

<DIV>Could someone with M2 Focus Aim, please post the stats.   </DIV> <DIV>Could someone with M2 Selection, please post the dmg range with STR capped.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[xandez]

well, this really is a no-brainer... pick the focus aim as your M2 in lvl 64, wont regret it.Another good choice is the debuff imo, but it doesnt give you nearly as much benefit as the focus aim.++Xan<div></div>

[xandez]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Xney wrote:<div></div> <div></div>Back when I was still a ranger, I switched out Focus Aim M2 for Selection M2.  There's not a lot of difference between Focus Aim M1 and M2 and it's easy to find the master.  The additional damage for Selection was more useful IMO.<p>Message Edited by Xney on <span class="date_text">10-30-2006</span> <span class="time_text">11:30 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>well, then you must have done something wrong <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Seriously thou, you'll need to couple the focus aim with a high max dmg bow (such as ghostly bow of bylze) or similar to really see how the focus aim buff shines.++Xan

[Jayad]

<DIV>Well, it was nice, until I started raiding a lot.  Then I think the extra damage from Selection was a better choice when the alterantive is a master1 in the other.  You're already dps buffed usually.   Ranger expertise is quickly fading, though, from me!</DIV>

[xandez]

hmmh.... shrug, well, if you feel that way, then good.Of course teh difference between the M2 and M1 isnt that big, so... you prolly made a good choice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

[jarlaxle8]

<P>I think Focus Aim is great. I use every time it's up. I have it as Master 2 choice and don't regret it, but M1 may be good as well.</P> <P>Best use you can get out of it is when you have Poise as well (end skill in the Agi AP line). With the reduced cast times you can squeeze in more bow CAs. In those 10 seconds I see loads of big orange numbers floating around. :smileyhappy:</P> <P>As for CA queing: I read in some dev post that an autoattack will happen between queued CAs, if the needed delay since last autoattack has passed. I always queue up, and my autoattacks seem to fire when they should.</P>

[xandez]

<P>yah, have noticed this with my alt warden. She hits with melee between dmg spells... </P> <P>++Xan</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by xandez on <span class=date_text>10-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:39 PM</span>

[Jayad]

Yes it does fire when it's queue'd up <STRONG>when the CA finishes casting.  </STRONG>However - any time you spend queue'd up is time you're losing for the next auto-attack.  Losing auto-attacks affects your DPS adversely, especially with high end bows.

[Rahmn]

<P>Auto attack doesnt have a cast time, its just happens every __seconds, regardless if CA's are Qed or not.</P> <P>Edit.  The only time this is not true is if ur stealthed for an attack.</P><p>Message Edited by Rahmn on <span class=date_text>10-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:55 AM</span>

[Jayad]

Yes, but auto-attack will not happen while you're casting.  If you could attack, but don't because you're casting, then you're missing auto-attacks. 

[xandez]

Yah, but this used to be so that if you queued your CA:s, you still wouldnt autoattack between the CA:s? Or i have always thought it was like that <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

[Prandtl]

<P>We are getting conflicting responses on the question of wether autoattack fires if you que up CA's</P> <P>So I searched for the dev response.  And searched and searched.  And found</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=115003#M115003" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=115003#M115003</A></P> <P>"<FONT color=#ff0000>If an auto attack was due while casting it essentially executes one right after casting.  So in your case it would cast, swing, and then schedule another auto attack in 2.5 seconds.</FONT>"</P> <P>the above statement was for a 2.5 sec weapon.  There are some good tidbits in the thread. Well worth reading.</P>

[Gerdos]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Prandtl, great job finding that post.</P> <P>Sorry for repeating this, but i really need the info, and noticed a few on this thread that could help me supplying it.</P> <P>Could someone with M2 Focus Aim, please post the stats.   </P> <DIV>Could someone with M2 Selection, please post the dmg range with STR capped.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[xandez]

will post the M2 focus aim stats later when im in the game (cant remember those outright), if someone hast done that already... ++Xan<div></div>

[Zholain]

<div></div><font size="2">Master II Selection:  1121 - 1868 ranged damage to targets in area of effect.  This at 535 strength.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zholain on <span class=date_text>11-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:49 PM</span>

[Ranja]

<div><blockquote><hr>rain420 wrote:personally I went with Devitalize Master 2, the enhanced defense decrease plus the added damage I can Crit using it just about every other hit.  Which I already had the Selection M1, Focus Aim M1..  Right now I just wish I could find a Lunging Joust M1.. I'm tired of using my lv.50ish Root attack and have it resisted by everything and everyone.. I'd get an Adept 3 of it but Spongy just soo freakin expensive may as well just hold out for a M1.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Waht sever are you on? You cannot give away Lunging Joust master1. There are like 5 of them on the broker all for under 6p. </div>

[Illustrious]

<P>Yes, but auto-attack will not happen while you're casting.  If you could attack, but don't because you're casting, then you're missing auto-attacks.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>Auto attack does not happen while u are casting, but it DOES happen in the recovery time between casts.</P> <P> </P> <P>For a while this was bugged and you wouldnt auto attack with queued CAs but it has worked correctly for a long time now.</P>

[Teksun]

<div><blockquote><hr>Illustrious wrote:<div></div> <p>Yes, but auto-attack will not happen while you're casting.  If you could attack, but don't because you're casting, then you're missing auto-attacks.</p> <p></p> <hr> <p>Auto attack does not happen while u are casting, but it DOES happen in the recovery time between casts.</p> <p>For a while this was bugged and you wouldnt auto attack with queued CAs but it has worked correctly for a long time now.</p><hr></blockquote>QFEYou WILL get your autoattack at the same time your CA goes off.</div>

[xandez]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gerdos wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Could someone with M2 Focus Aim, please post the stats.  <BR><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Sorry this took this long... but here it is (you prolly wont even need this, but... heh)</P> <P>M2 Focus aim:</P> <P>Increases ranged crit chance by 42%<BR>Increases attack speed of caster by 85%<BR>Increases DPS by 97%<BR>Decreases Crushing/Piercing/Slashing by 192<BR>Increases Ranged by 127</P> <P><BR>++Xan</P><p>Message Edited by xandez on <span class=date_text>11-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:24 AM</span>

[Gerdos]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> xandez wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gerdos wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Could someone with M2 Focus Aim, please post the stats.  <BR><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Sorry this took this long... but here it is (you prolly wont even need this, but... heh)</P> <P>M2 Focus aim:</P> <P>Increases ranged crit chance by 42%<BR>Increases attack speed of caster by 85%<BR>Increases DPS by 97%<BR>Decreases Crushing/Piercing/Slashing by 192<BR>Increases Ranged by 127</P> <P><BR>++Xan</P> <P>Message Edited by xandez on <SPAN class=date_text>11-04-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:24 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Thanks Xan, i'll add it to the 1st post in Ranger - Resources.  Appreciate it !</P> <P> </P>

[xandez]

<P>np <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>++Xan</P>