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Vaylan77
10-12-2006, 02:08 PM
<DIV>i have rolled a ranger. he is now 17 and locked. i have two imbued rings, str and agi. one adds more dps when it proc and the other gives you a higher attack speed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but i don't understand dps totally to be honest (had not much effect on my 70 warden and i have never tried to understand the mechanic).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>attack speed means i can just hit more often when autoattacking right? to make up a simple example: if i have a delay of 2 secs on my weapon and the attack speed is increased by 50 % would this mean the delay now is 1 sec?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>now dps: what exactly would be the effect of - lets make it easy - 50% plus in dps. dps means damage per second, my combat arts do damage, but how they are affected by the dps modifier? if one combat art would do max. 100 damage would it then do 150???</DIV>

z3oslo
10-12-2006, 04:55 PM
First off, the rings do NOT trigger off your bow, only the melee autoattack and combat arts.(Yes its stupid)Haste and dps modifier only affect autoattackIf you have a dps modifier that is 30% and your bow autoattack damage is 100, it will now do 130 damage.If you have 50% haste, and you have a delay on your weapon with 2 sec, it will now be 1.5 sec with haste.

AChampi
10-12-2006, 05:15 PM
<DIV>As it only effects autoattack DPS:</DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New">Autoattack DPS = Average Weapon Damage * (1+DPS%)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New">                 -------------------------------- </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New">                    (Weapon Delay / (1+Haste%))</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Average weapon damage is easier enough to calculate and is left as an exercise of the reader <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>Hope this helps</DIV> <DIV>  -Slic.</DIV><p>Message Edited by AChampion on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:18 AM</span>

Ranja
10-12-2006, 05:39 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>z3oslo wrote:First off, the rings do NOT trigger off your bow, only the melee autoattack and combat arts.(Yes its stupid)Haste and dps modifier only affect autoattackIf you have a dps modifier that is 30% and your bow autoattack damage is 100, it will now do 130 damage.If you have 50% haste, and you have a delay on your weapon with 2 sec, it will now be 1.5 sec with haste.<hr></blockquote>Actually this is wrong. The AGI ring triggers off our bow and it gives us agi boost and haste modifier. The str ring only triggers off of melee and gives us str boost and dps modifier.</div>

z3oslo
10-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Have they changed the agi ring? I'm positive that thet agi and str ring didnt work off the bow when kos came out.

Marcuzs
10-12-2006, 06:00 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> z3oslo wrote:<BR>First off, the rings do NOT trigger off your bow, only the melee autoattack and combat arts.<BR>(Yes its stupid)<BR><BR>Haste and dps modifier only affect autoattack<BR>If you have a dps modifier that is 30% and your bow autoattack damage is 100, it will now do 130 damage.<BR><BR>If you have 50% haste, and you have a delay on your weapon with 2 sec, it will now be <STRONG>1.33 sec</STRONG> with haste.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Corrected</P> <P>Delay = 2/1.5 = 1.33</P>

xandez
10-12-2006, 06:08 PM
<P>well the haste doesnt affect straight to the delays of the weapon, it makes you swing more often in the given period </P> <P>so, if you have a 2.0s delay weapon, that means you swing once / 2s</P> <P>haste that by 50% --> you swing 1.5 times / 2s, hence your actual weapon delay now is 2s/1.5 = 1.33s</P> <P><BR>++Xan</P>

Stormhawk
10-12-2006, 11:42 PM
<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>bentgate wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>z3oslo wrote:First off, the rings do NOT trigger off your bow, only the melee autoattack and combat arts.(Yes its stupid)Haste and dps modifier only affect autoattackIf you have a dps modifier that is 30% and your bow autoattack damage is 100, it will now do 130 damage.If you have 50% haste, and you have a delay on your weapon with 2 sec, it will now be 1.5 sec with haste.<hr></blockquote>Actually this is wrong. The AGI ring triggers off our bow and it gives us agi boost and haste modifier. The str ring only triggers off of melee and gives us str boost and dps modifier.</div><hr></blockquote>Actually, AGI triggers off your bow because you use combat arts with your bow.  It will also trigger off melee combat arts.</div><p>Message Edited by Stormhawk on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:42 PM</span>