logitech G15 keyboard

[hieronym]

<DIV>anyone use the above? thinking of getting one for my constant arrow shortage :smileywink:</DIV>

[Asismii]

i use one... it works awesome, and ACT has a built in plugin for it so you can see real-time parsings if you so choose... its probably the best accessory to my computer <div></div>

[Zholain]

<font size="2">I have one and I'd have to say it's the best computer-related purchase I've made in a long time.</font><div></div>

[Mirdo]

Hi Hiero,I know your guild are clearing DT weekly - it's only a matter of time before one of the ammo bows drop for you. Once you have one - all your ammo worries are over (except maybe blunts). At 100 per summon and that every 5 mins, you  can actually keep supplied pretty much as you go.Still, if you need a new kbd anyway there's no harm in buying that one <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Mirdo.<div></div>

[Gareorn]

<DIV>I really like my G15.  Wouldn't trade it for anyhting else out there right now.</DIV>

[Jay]

I looked at this thing at the store, thought "A hundred bucks for a <EM>keyboard</EM>??" and moved on. I actually need a new one, too, ever since my cat spilled a full travel mug of creamed coffee all over my desk / keyboard / wall. Of course I was in the middle of a Labs raid at the time...

[Gareorn]

Buy on line.  I got mine for $45 and no sales tax.

[KnightOfTheWo]

Also got mine online, the G15 is more fun than a barrel of monkeys and that's saying a lot for a keyboard...<span>:smileywink:</span>Definitely worth it.<div></div>

[Dojoc]

<div></div>i prefer this over the G15<img src="http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/keyb_001.jpg">check it out <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/">here</a><div></div>

[Dej]

<div></div>The <span class="howcr">Optimus</span> keyboard will never release.  They set a release date of Feb 06.   Its a little past that and NOTHING!   They said there is no delay they were just sold out.   Well where are they.Stick with the G15 that the Optimus won't happen in the next 2+ years<div></div><p>Message Edited by Dejay on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:05 PM</span>

[Haruk]

What plugins are you guys using with it for EQ2?<div></div>

[Dej]

as stated above.    ACT!<div></div>

[Zholain]

<font size="2">Same.  ACT</font><div></div>

[Gareorn]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zholain wrote:<BR><FONT size=2>Same.  ACT<BR></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Same here.<BR></DIV>

[Cylmore]

ACT?  Ok, I'm confused.  What does that mean and how do you use it with the keyboard?Thanks.<div></div>

[Zholain]

<div></div><font size="2">Advanced Combat Tracker, the dps parser that most people seem to be using these days.  And it has a feature that pushes real-time parse data to the display on the G15.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zholain on <span class=date_text>09-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:01 PM</span>

[Cylmore]

Oh nice.  I noticed that WoW parser comes with it, but nothing for eq2.  (I just bought mine, so have just started playing with it).  Where do you find this ACT?Also, I have had problems with setting up the macros to the hot keys on the side.  They want to ignore the ctrl and alt part of the key sequence.  It works great on the single hotkey part, but the macro part struggles.  I'm trying to set up sequences for casting stealth and then sequence range attacks, stealth and sequence melee attacks, etc.  Anyone else have this problem?Thanks<div></div>

[Zholain]

<a href="http://home.maine.rr.com/eqaditu/ACT/" target=_blank><font size="2">Here ya are.</font></a><div></div>

[Cylmore]

Very nice, Thanks very much!!!<div></div>

[hieronym]

<DIV>thanks for the info all.</DIV>

[Deml]

Question for all the folks that have this.  I have tendonitis in my left arm/wrist and if I don't use one of the ergonomic keyboards I start getting cramps/pains after a couple hours.  Anyone else have similar issues but able to use this keyboard without any pain or problems?  I'd love to pick one of these up, but the fact that it's not a split keyboard style for folks with tendonitis/carpel tunnel (sp?) is the reason I'm holding off just yet.  Thoughts/comments please.

[Gareorn]

It's a standard keyboard layout, so I don't imagine it's going to be too useful if you need the split keyboard for medical reasons.   Maybe someone with experience on this knows more though.

[Corwinus]

<P>Not only Act has a plugin but also : </P> <P>- Fraps if you want to monitor your fps for tuning and,</P> <P>- Ventrilo in a new beta version downloadable from their website, it is very useful because in the raid you can actually read who is talking instead of trying to figure out who's voice it is.</P> <P>This is the very best keyboard i have found so far (allows me to play my macros from the Gxx keys which is a big help in raids, for a clumsy cat like me).</P> <P>my 2 coppers</P> <P>Corwin</P>

[Teksun]

<div><blockquote><hr>Corwinus wrote:<div></div> <p>Not only Act has a plugin but also : </p> <p>- Fraps if you want to monitor your fps for tuning and,</p> <p>- Ventrilo in a new beta version downloadable from their website, it is very useful because in the raid you can actually read who is talking instead of trying to figure out who's voice it is.</p> <p>This is the very best keyboard i have found so far (allows me to play my macros from the Gxx keys which is a big help in raids, for a clumsy cat like me).</p> <p>my 2 coppers</p> <p>Corwin</p><hr></blockquote>With Vent, just the person speakings name pops up?? That would be nice (I use a second PC for vent right now)</div>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Demlar wrote:<BR> Question for all the folks that have this.  I have tendonitis in my left arm/wrist and if I don't use one of the ergonomic keyboards I start getting cramps/pains after a couple hours.  Anyone else have similar issues but able to use this keyboard without any pain or problems?  I'd love to pick one of these up, but the fact that it's not a split keyboard style for folks with tendonitis/carpel tunnel (sp?) is the reason I'm holding off just yet.  Thoughts/comments please.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm in the same boat, and I havent' seen an ergonomic version of the G15 yet... but I haven't really been looking, either. I have a hard time justifying that kind of cost for a piece of what's essentially disposable hardware. But all those features sound really juicy...<BR>

[Cylmore]

<P>OK, next question from the informationally challenged:  I can't seem to find out how to download the ACT parser to the G15 display.  I've looked in the ACT forums, FAQ and the program itself.  What am I missing?  Any clue where to find it?</P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks</P>

[Cylmore]

Doh, nm.  I swear that wasn't there yesterday!!  :smileysurprised:

[Roark]

Once I went to an ergo keyboard it is hard going back. If I could find a good replacement to my Microsoft Wireless Natural set I would jump in a heartbeat. For now the only thing I can see coming down the road to replace it though is the Microsoft 8000.http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/14/microsoft_8000_keyboard/If anyone knows of another good ergo wireless keyboard please share.

[Jayad]

<P>You have to install the G15 software first.  That makes the LCD display usable by windows apps.  Then you have to enable it in ACT.  I also had to turn off the other information in the G15 drivers because the ACT info would only stay up for half a second before the clock or system CPU usage popped up.</P> <P>It's kinda cool.  I think it needs to be improved a bit.  So far the best use has been seeing total raid DPS to know when we're slacking.</P>

[Sannavekk]

<P>I have to admit for EQ2 I don't use the macros THAT much. Basically nothing combat related. Just a few. None of them afk macros of course</P> <P>I have a buff offensive..< a buff defensive (great after you die..which shouldn't happen anyway ..should it? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</P> <P>One that opens ACT, logs me onto teamspeak, one that pastes the ACT parse into my chat channel do it's an easy one key press...</P> <P>I love the ACT LCD window and the teamspeak LCD display though I prefer Ventrillo which I haven't seen an app for.</P> <P>Of course the backlit keys are very very nice.</P> <P><STRONG>I would LOVE if someone would create something that keeps track of my poison charges in the lcd window MAN I HATE When all of a sudden i wonder why i am not doing great dps and it's because my poisions expired and I didn't even notice. That's the killer app <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></STRONG></P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Sannavekk on <span class=date_text>09-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:14 PM</span>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sannavekk wrote:<BR> <P><STRONG>I would LOVE if someone would create something that keeps track of my poison charges in the lcd window MAN I HATE When all of a sudden i wonder why i am not doing great dps and it's because my poisions expired and I didn't even notice. That's the killer app <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></STRONG></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I don't understand - you can quickly see whether you have poisons up or not right on your screen, but you want it on the LCD window on your keyboard instead? I guess I don't see why you'd notice on your keyboard of all places, if you're not catching it on the screen in front of you... <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Ibixat]

Yes you can tell when a poison is up.Can you tell me at a glance how many charges are left, should I reapply it before this fight or wait till after, that requires a mouse over of the maintained effect.  I'm referring more to the fights where you start the fight and after the first proc, your poison drops and at that point I'm not really watching the maintained list to notice that it has dropped and it slips by.  Also I'm not compulsive enough to mouse over the maintained before every fight to see if I have charges left on the current dose. I don't see why you think having an actual count of charges available on a display, be it the maintained (preferred) OR on the lcd on the keyboard (what I was suggesting as a possibility), would be a bad thing, maybe usefull info displayed in an easy to see format is against your moral code or something.<div></div>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Ibixat wrote: <P>I don't see why you think having an actual count of charges available on a display, be it the maintained (preferred) OR on the lcd on the keyboard (what I was suggesting as a possibility), would be a bad thing, maybe usefull info displayed in an easy to see format is against your moral code or something.<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>LOL, who crapped in your Corn Flakes, buddy?</P> <P>I just asked how that presentation would differ. I actually agree that it'd be nice to have a clearer indication of when you're about to lose your poison application (maybe have the icon blink or something), but I'd rather have it in the game itself. </P>

[Jer_]

I remember when pathfinding lasted 15 minutes, we didn't know how many charges of poison we had left and we liked it!!! Well not really… but after a while I just got used to keeping an eye on my maintained icons. I like my G15…

[Jay]

LOL... and we walked to school uphill, n the the snow, both ways! And we LOVED it! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Prandtl]

<P>Snow?  You had snow?</P> <P>luxury</P> <P>We had to climb through molten lava with our father on our back whipping us with a strand of barb wire</P>

[Ibixat]

I buy my cornflakes pre-defecated, makes life easier....Sorry if I sounded harsh but come on, you kinda started it =)Anywhoo, if they gave coercers a warning that their charm was about to break how about giving us a visual clue that an applied poison is about to drop, like some subtle tinting of our view (fade a little green or red, soething we'd notice, hell make the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] maintained icon flash to solid red and back when it's under 10% charges remaining that would be good I think.<div></div>

[Teksun]

How about just a full count on the icon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Hmm lemme explain for the sane: you have the poison icon, and on top of that would be the number of doses left. A big 99 or 98 or 2 or whatever<div></div>

[Corwinus]

Yes just the person names that is speaking pops up

[Corwinus]

<P>Well,</P> <P> for my carpal tunnel problem i use products from Imak (imakproducts.com), but not the rigid ones,  I like very much the Ergobeads and the soft cotton material of the pillows for the writs support, on top of that they are washables and can be put in the freezer for a 15mn cooling effect (after that you have to recast lol - so i bought 2). </P> <P>G15 and ergobeads makes my life easier.</P> <P>My 2 coppers</P> <P>Corwin</P>

[Corwinus]

<P>Sorry,</P> <P>My short answer might have been confusing , when i said that It shows the name of the person speaking , i was refering to the Ventrilo applet for the G15 - Nota that applet is only available in the new beta version of ventrilo, which can be downloaded at the bottom of their download page (btw this version works just as fine as the lastest non beta version).</P> <P>My 2 coppers,</P> <P>Corwin</P>

[Ravenwind]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Prandtl wrote:<BR> <P>Snow?  You had snow?</P> <P>luxury</P> <P>We had to climb through molten lava with our father on our back whipping us with a strand of barb wire</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We could only dream of lava.  We had to climb up from the pits of hell with demons stabbing us in the eyes with only a drop of water to share between us!</P> <P> </P>

[Gareorn]

<P>Before we could walk to school in th snow, uphill.  We first had to take a wood plane and run it down our shins to the ankle, then take one of those canned ham keys and...</P> <P>What were we talking about again?</P>

[Prandtl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gareorn wrote:<BR> <P>What were we talking about again?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>ummmmmmm   I forgot   :smileymad:<BR>

[Deml]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RavenwindBR wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Prandtl wrote:<BR> <P>Snow?  You had snow?</P> <P>luxury</P> <P>We had to climb through molten lava with our father on our back whipping us with a strand of barb wire</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We could only dream of lava.  We had to climb up from the pits of hell with demons stabbing us in the eyes with only a drop of water to share between us!</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You had water?  Lucky bastige.  </DIV> <DIV>Before we could walk uphill to school we had to go and BUILD the school!</DIV>

[Prandtl]

At least you had a school to go to. We could only <U><EM>dream</EM></U> of going to school.  Why we didn't even have books. Our teacher branded the alphabet into your living flesh and taught us to spell with an icepick.  But try and tell that to these young rangers today<p>Message Edited by Prandtl on <span class=date_text>09-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:18 PM</span>

[Ravenwind]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Prandtl wrote:<BR> At least you had a school to go to. We could only <U><EM>dream</EM></U> of going to school.  Why we didn't even have books. Our teacher branded the alphabet into your living flesh and taught us to spell with an icepick.  But try and tell that to these young rangers today. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>So, thread de-railed by Monty Python?</P> <DIV><BR></DIV>

[ShaniquaJacks]

Bought mine about a year ago, for 80 bucks, was still worth it. It's beyond handy. I LOVE the backlighting on it, as I play in the dark more often than not [yeah, I'm oldschool like that lol] and I LOVE the LCD screen.  I too use ACT with it, which is nice now that I play a DPS class hehe. I also use the macro keys for other games, not much use for them for EQ2 but I use them for BF2 and what not. Anyways, by far the best accessory purchase I have ~ever~ made and I highly suggest getting one. The keyboard is also becoming more and more compatible with other games so, if you play multiple games, then it's even more worth it. <div></div>

[Taeki]

<div></div><div align="left"><font size="4"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">Did you ever find a solution to the ctrl and alt part?  I am having the same issue on a board I got for Christmas.</font></font></font><blockquote><hr><font size="3">Cylmore wrote:Also, I have had problems with setting up the macros to the hot keys on the side.  They want to ignore the ctrl and alt part of the key sequence.  It works great on the single hotkey part, but the macro part struggles.  I'm trying to set up sequences for casting stealth and then sequence range attacks, stealth and sequence melee attacks, etc.  Anyone else have this problem?Thanks</font><div></div><hr></blockquote></div><div></div>

[Teksun]

I'm still having problems using 'typed' macros. Sometimes the lag will cause me to miss a letter or two and the whole thing won't work. I guess I need to play with the time between keystrokes...<div></div>

[Domyr Farseeker]

<P>I just picked up a G15 a couple weeks ago. I was using an MS ergo one before that. </P> <P>The Vent and ACT plugins are awesome for raiding - I can see who's talking on vent and get a mini parse while fullscreen in-game. The backlit keys are really nice for latenight raiding, too. The macros are kinda nice, but you really have to play a bit with pauses and timing on key hold-downs to get them to work right every time - they aren't very lag-friendly. </P> <P>I saw some ppl on eq2interface talking about this keyboard a while back, I hope we see some more eq2 stuff come out for it sometime. There's a lot of possibilities there if someone could get it to work.</P> <P>As for ergonomics, this is a BIG keyboard, and probably won't work well if you have carpo. Unless you can use the macro keys a lot to reduce keypresses, there's a lot of space to cover - that'll probably put some extra stress on the wrists. It lays pretty flat, too - even with the back feet down. It feels like it's on a kinda wierd angle to me.</P> <P>Nice quality overall, and a nice feel to the keystrokes - I've been very pleased with mine.</P>

[afeather]

I love the G15 keyboard. I have a macro to start an HO use cheapshot run behind the mob and nail it with several rear/stealth CA's all with one button. Because the keyboard pollong is tied to frame rate and varies you need to put delays after the ctrl or alt key press and the key that comes after. eg. CTRL Delay 1 Delay hope that helps

[Badaxe Ba]

<p>I use a $10 keyboard I bought at Big Lots <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Almost all my macros are tied to my alphanumeric keys <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I still run act and can post results in-game with a keyboard press if desired.<img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'm old fashioned I guess, but I like a standard keyboard, heh.</p><p>Which I had to earn the money by trudging up the road of good intentions backwards while carrying chopped wood because we had no school at all, and used sign language because we had no written language.  And if we got the sign wrong we had our fingers chopped off and sewn back on backwards making us talk funny!</p>