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Rinio
09-11-2006, 05:03 PM
<DIV>Its Sad cos im probably about to get them nerfed hardcore but for rangers that use the sweet spot fighting style and spam auto ranged attack in between melee CAs so that all your auto attacks are ranged... look into iceforged Sais as your weapons of choice, since CAs are not effected by the weapon you use and all your auto attacks should be Ranged and not melee with that sweet spot play style they are very worth it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PM me for Details if you dont allready know. ^_^ </DIV> <DIV>Devs are so gunna nerf them for me sharing info to improve Rangers =(</DIV>

BSbon
09-11-2006, 08:50 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RinionX wrote:<BR> <DIV>Its Sad cos im probably about to get them nerfed hardcore but for rangers that use the sweet spot fighting style and spam auto ranged attack in between melee CAs so that all your auto attacks are ranged... look into iceforged Sais as your weapons of choice, since CAs are not effected by the weapon you use and all your auto attacks should be Ranged and not melee with that sweet spot play style they are very worth it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PM me for Details if you dont allready know. ^_^ </DIV> <DIV>Devs are so gunna nerf them for me sharing info to improve Rangers =(</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>not understanding this post. please explain.

Jay
09-11-2006, 09:14 PM
<P>He's being deliberately vague for some reason, hence the 'PM me for details.' But yeah, until that point, I was pretty lost.</P> <P>I just use the highest DR weapons I can get my paws on, personally. Right now, that happens to be the Sword of the Four Winds and the Foreman's Shank. Not very impressive, I know, but all the T7 Fabled DWs keep passing me by come raid night. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

Ranja
09-12-2006, 12:17 AM
Methinks these might be weapons that proc off of ranged. Hence his statement that we use ranged auto-attack inbetween melee CAs.<div></div>

Rinio
09-12-2006, 12:20 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bongotez wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RinionX wrote:<BR> <DIV>Its Sad cos im probably about to get them nerfed hardcore but for rangers that use the sweet spot fighting style and spam auto ranged attack in between melee CAs so that all your auto attacks are ranged... look into iceforged Sais as your weapons of choice, since CAs are not effected by the weapon you use and all your auto attacks should be Ranged and not melee with that sweet spot play style they are very worth it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PM me for Details if you dont allready know. ^_^ </DIV> <DIV>Devs are so gunna nerf them for me sharing info to improve Rangers =(</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>not understanding this post. please explain.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ok ok fine inc NERF from Ranger Hating Devs!</P> <P>Iceforged Sais have a 10% chance to proc knockback that last for .2 sec and a 140ish to 250ish cold AoE called Frost Gale </P> <P>Now here is the fun part they proc off Ranged, both of them form either hand and they arent Lore so you can wield two</P> <P>SO! end result if you play a sweet spot style and spam auto Ranged attack inbetween Melee CAs then you almost never auto attack with your melee weapons so DR on them wont mater because Damage Rating does not effect Combat Art damage amounts.</P> <P>proc gear FTW anyone? with just one of these in a crappy dps group ( i mean bad the inq didnt even dps me all i had was zerker buff and bruiser =/ group was 2 bruisers a zerker, inquisitor, mystic, and me.) set up in labs got me 2nd highest highest zone wide parse  only the assassin beat me and he was in a dps group. and after examining the parse the spell Frost Gale made up 6% of my total damage oh btw i dont do the int line so maybe you guys with higher int... and the 50% + crit chance... /giggle</P> <P>Thanks! inc Nerf from Ranger hating Devs /cry people couldnt just PM me? </P><p>Message Edited by RinionX on <span class=date_text>09-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:23 PM</span>

Jblaze2
09-12-2006, 12:43 AM
so thats why....was trying to figure out why this ranger was so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] close to the mob and putting up those numbers.

Mirdo
09-12-2006, 10:25 AM
<DIV>JBlaze - that close to the mob is where we need to be to put out high dps numbers anyway - with or without melee weapons proccing on ranged hits. Between our ranged autoattacks we squeeze in melee arts - you have to be close to the mob for those to land.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess the Sai's will be corrected so that they no longer proc off ranged. Not necessarily a bad thing as it sounds like a bug or oversitght from the proc revamps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mirdo. </DIV>

xandez
09-12-2006, 10:54 AM
Yep, i bet they will be "fixed" soon++Xan<div></div>

Teksun
09-12-2006, 03:58 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>xandez wrote:Yep, i bet they will be "fixed" soon++Xan<div></div><hr></blockquote>Your assuming Devs READ the Ranger forums <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

Rinio
09-12-2006, 05:03 PM
<DIV>someone said on a earlier post that status effects were still meant to cross over, that said shouldntthis wepaon not need a fix it does indeed cause a status effect knockback for .2sec ^_^</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if they do read this and it gets fixed and ruins my 20% aber AE damage may as well ruin claymores to! DW claymore procs off ranged from primary hand! so does 1hander! mwahahaha. I really think they are meant to tho cos omg there is no bow Reward, maybe Devs hate us less then I thought. =P</DIV><p>Message Edited by RinionX on <span class=date_text>09-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:04 AM</span>

jrisley69
09-13-2006, 02:05 AM
is this a PvE or PVP weapon? and if PvE, where and what drops or how do you get them?<div></div>

Rinio
09-13-2006, 03:41 PM
oh its PvE and i dont know where they droped i bought them, definatly a T5 raid tho probably something in everfrost imo