I'm jealous!

[Qaeadyen]

<DIV>I've managed to keep my mouth about the nerfs rangers have recieved over time even though it has caused me to play my ranger less and less. Sigh, now assasins even LOOK cooler with the new profession hat. Sigh, alas, I will never betray my ranger. Though, I am seriously considerign rolling an assasin alt now =(</DIV>

[TerriBlades]

<DIV>You must not have seen what ratonga look like in that ninja mask. </DIV>

[Ethyarion]

Instead of being jealous of the Assassin hat you should take a look at the new Troubador one and be grateful we didn't get that.

[Qaeadyen]

HAHA!!! Good point! I'm still loyal to the ranja!!!!

[LoreLady]

I never liked wearin caps anyways.

[Runewind]

Hey! I love the trouby hat! I was pulling for the Robin Hood hat for us. =P It would have been awesome. I almost want to make a Trouby just to get that hat now.<div></div>

[Teksun]

Nothing looks funnier than a frog in a pally hat <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Jay]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Teksun wrote:<BR>Nothing looks funnier than a frog in a pally hat <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>OMG, that one truly has to be seen to be believed... it's frightening and hilarious all at once.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But don't let Rinky see you posting that <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <BR></DIV>

[LoreLady]

I wanna see a froggie in an assassin mask that should be interesting.<div></div>

[Mirdo]

Froggies in their Necro hats are pretty scary too...

[Prandtl]

<P>Lets all just admit it...</P> <P>Those froggies are scary!</P> <P> </P> <P>Sorry Gwyneth  :smileyvery-happy:</P>

[Vaiko]

Boys, you are more talking about froggies than about Rangers. :smileywink:<FONT size=+0></FONT><BR>

[xandez]

They're just envious to teh froggies cause they'll change into a price / princess when someone kisses em! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

[Mirdo]

<Tracks for Gwyneth>

[Teksun]

I think I would have been happier with a 'robin hood' cap than our little hood thingy <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Gareorn]

Have you seen the Trouby's hat?  Personally, I prefer the hood over the robinhood style hat.  There is no way I'd ever show that [Removed for Content] [Removed for Content] piece of digestive waste the Troubys have.

[Runewind]

I like the robin hood cap. But I've already said that. It's dashing. I also like our hood and hopefully it'll look better when we get cloaks so it looks like a cloak and hood. But I could have gone for styling myself in the robin hood hat too. Would have been fun and it also would have looked pretty good with a cloak I'm happy either way but before they revealed the class hats I was hoping for us getting the Robin Hood hat ourselves. I'm a little annoyed that they gave it to trouby's instead<blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<div></div>Have you seen the Trouby's hat?  Personally, I prefer the hood over the robinhood style hat.  There is no way I'd ever show that [Removed for Content] [Removed for Content] piece of digestive waste the Troubys have.<hr></blockquote>Also....that language is entirely unnecessary. <div></div>

[Teksun]

I really like the trouby hat... of course I have one of those in real life, LOL<div></div>

[Gareorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gareorn wrote:<BR> Have you seen the Trouby's hat?  Personally, I prefer the hood over the robinhood style hat.  There is no way I'd ever show that [Removed for Content] [Removed for Content] piece of digestive waste the Troubys have.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><STRONG>Also....that language is entirely unnecessary. </STRONG><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Ummm...  Did we run out of Midol?  Lighten up dude.  Besides:</P> <P><IMG src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/content_images/NewProfessionHats/troubador.jpg"><BR></P> <P>I rest my case.</P> <P>Edit:  Forgot to put in the :smileyhappy: so some folks would know I'm just joking around.</P><p>Message Edited by Gareorn on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:54 AM</span>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> TwistedRiddles wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Gareorn wrote: <div></div>Have you seen the Trouby's hat?  Personally, I prefer the hood over the robinhood style hat.  There is no way I'd ever show that [Removed for Content] [Removed for Content] piece of digestive waste the Troubys have. <hr> </blockquote><strong>Also....that language is entirely unnecessary. </strong> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Ummm...  Did we run out of Midol?  Lighten up dude.  Besides:</p> <p><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/content_images/NewProfessionHats/troubador.jpg"></p> <p>I rest my case.</p> <p>Edit:  Forgot to put in the :smileyhappy: so some folks would know I'm just joking around.</p><p>Message Edited by Gareorn on <span class="date_text">09-14-2006</span> <span class="time_text">09:54 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I was pointing out it was innapropriate language for the forums. It's not necessary to make your point. And it can be offensive and easilly get the thread locked. </div>

[TerriBlades]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>I was pointing out it was innapropriate language for the forums. It's not necessary to make your point. And it can be offensive and easilly get the thread locked. <BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Could you please specificly state what you thought was so wrong with his post? I mean, are you THAT sensitive that the word [Removed for Content] to describe an inanimate object found in a game world irks you? Cause that's the only word in his comments that I could even remotely imagine you found offensive. As for what you deem inapropriate language?!? Well when you and Tipper Gore become SoE Forum Mods, then your opinion starts to matter. Till then, everyone else in entitled to their own view, and last time I checked, we were free to voice them. Unless of course insulting a pretty lame hat design is somehow breaking forum rules, and if it is, we better lock the hat theads on brigands, pallys, monks, assassins (or at least ones with ratonga posts <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). Have a nice day now. <BR></DIV>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>TerriBlades wrote:<div> <blockquote> <hr> TwistedRiddles wrote: <div>I was pointing out it was innapropriate language for the forums. It's not necessary to make your point. And it can be offensive and easilly get the thread locked. </div> <hr> </blockquote>Could you please specificly state what you thought was so wrong with his post? I mean, are you THAT sensitive that the word [Removed for Content] to describe an inanimate object found in a game world irks you? Cause that's the only word in his comments that I could even remotely imagine you found offensive. As for what you deem inapropriate language?!? Well when you and Tipper Gore become SoE Forum Mods, then your opinion starts to matter. Till then, everyone else in entitled to their own view, and last time I checked, we were free to voice them. Unless of course insulting a pretty lame hat design is somehow breaking forum rules, and if it is, we better lock the hat theads on brigands, pallys, monks, assassins (or at least ones with ratonga posts <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). Have a nice day now. </div><hr></blockquote>As a matter of fact yes, The word [Removed for Content] being used as a representation of "bad" is offensive. I would think at this point people would know that. I'm really shocked people can be that insensitive at this point. Maybe I just don't generally hang out with people who are immature enough to use it as a derogatory term or maybe they're just more aware of what could be offensive to people, I don't know. But many people I know (not just [Removed for Content] people but straight people too) Get offended when people use it in that manner. It's inconsiderate and insensitive. If we started using other minority terms as replacements for "bad" I would imagine people would have a problem with THAT. So yes it is offensive. I would think the mods would be mature enough to realize it's offensive. You've certainly never seen any of them or the dev team use it that way have you? And they aren't necessarily the most professional group of people. They joke around too but they know what's insensitive and what's offensive. So yes I get a little pain in my stomach every time someone says that because I would think people would have learned by now. I guess I was wrong. Sorry for assuming people were more mature than they are.</div>

[TerriBlades]

<DIV>Im sorry, but the word [Removed for Content] is in no way derogatory just because its used as a term of displeasure to describe something.  These kinds of things are only an issue when ppl make it an issue. You might as well be arguing that ppl in the north shouldn't use the word "pop" when talking about a soft drink. Different ppl have different terminology for words, and at no time when I was reading his post did I think of a homosexual, and as long as we are on the subject, I don't think most homosexuals find the word [Removed for Content] to be derogatory either, cause if they did Im sure they'd be all about renaming "[Removed for Content] Pride" to something less demeaning.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You my friend are what I would call "hyper-sensitive", and if you're okay with that, so be it. However, understand this... ppl are like snowflakes, we are all different. So while you may be hyper-sensitive, remember that not everyone is going to feel, act, or think the same way. And if more ppl would stop looking for something bad in everything and learn to live and let live, this whole world would be a nicer place. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit:</DIV> <DIV>As for the Dev Team... How would you know what words fill their vocabulary? Are you good personal friends with each and every one of them? Or rather are you just basing this on posts that you have seen them make? Just because you havent seen one of them use it on the forum, doesnt mean they dont ever use it.</DIV><p>Message Edited by TerriBlades on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:34 PM</span>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>TerriBlades wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div>Im sorry, but the word [Removed for Content] is in no way derogatory just because its used as a term of displeasure to describe something.  These kinds of things are only an issue when ppl make it an issue. You might as well be arguing that ppl in the north shouldn't use the word "pop" when talking about a soft drink. Different ppl have different terminology for words, and at no time when I was reading his post did I think of a homosexual, and as long as we are on the subject, I don't think most homosexuals find the word [Removed for Content] to be derogatory either, cause if they did Im sure they'd be all about renaming "[Removed for Content] Pride" to something less demeaning.</div> <div> </div> <div>You my friend are what I would call "hyper-sensitive", and if you're okay with that, so be it. However, understand this... ppl are like snowflakes, we are all different. So while you may be hyper-sensitive, remember that not everyone is going to feel, act, or think the same way. And if more ppl would stop looking for something bad in everything and learn to live and let live, this whole world would be a nicer place. </div> <div> </div> <div>Edit:</div> <div>As for the Dev Team... How would you know what words fill their vocabulary? Are you good personal friends with each and every one of them? Or rather are you just basing this on posts that you have seen them make? Just because you havent seen one of them use it on the forum, doesnt mean they dont ever use it.</div><p>Message Edited by TerriBlades on <span class="date_text">09-14-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:34 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>You my friend are using poor logic. It is NOT the same thing as using the word "Pop." It's not the WORD that is offensive. It is the meaning BEHIND the word. It has nothing to do with him USING the word "[Removed for Content]" it has everything to do with him USING the word [Removed for Content] to imply that it means BAD. If you don't see that or understand that than you're beyond the point where I can actually help you understand. If all of a sudden people started to use the term Mexican to mean bad don't you think a number of people of mexican decent would be displeased? And rightfully so? They're implying that something they are is synonymous with bad/stupid/etc If you actually are seriously not getting that then I don't know what to do about it. I can't actually believe you consider this "hyper-sensitive" I think at this point you are just desensitized to the term because it's been overused but that doesn't make it right and I think enough people have made it clear in enough public forums that it's NOT right that everyone would at least be consciously aware of such a thing. </div>

[Runewind]

<div></div>Also in response to whether or not this is against the forum rules I point you to the "Rules of Conduct" which state<p>You may <strong>NOT</strong> post or place in a signature any material that:</p><ul><li>Attacks or insults others on the board. Feel free to debate the idea, but do not turn your disagreement into an attack upon the poster or any person or group.</li><li>Engages in name-calling, harassment, or threats.</li><li>Contains obscenity, vulgarity, profanity or is sexually explicit. Though we do have a filter in place to catch unintentional obscenity from time to time, this is not a license to abuse it. Bypassing the obscenity filter by using letter, number, or character combinations that allow the obscene or inappropriate word to appear is unacceptable as well.</li><li><b>Disparages any religion, race, nation, gender, or sexual orientation.</b></li><li>Is considered inappropriate for children 13 or over as governed by general standards of decency in the United States of America.</li><li>Infringes upon anyone's privacy rights.</li><li>Is off-topic for the forum. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. There is a forum called Non-Gameplay Discussion for topics that don't relate directly to EverQuest II gameplay. However, be aware that the Rules of Conduct will still be enforced. Do not assume it is a board that welcomes every discussion; debating religion, arguing politics, looking for romantic partners, and attacking other games or companies are all examples of topics better suited for other boards and websites.</li></ul><div></div>

[Mirdo]

<DIV>I am offended by the fact the the word [Removed for Content] has been used to describe homosexuals to be honest. Hardly anyone applies it's original usage any more and people are almost afraid to use it for fear of the bashing they get if taken out of context (although that's not the case here - it was definately used derogeratively).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, that hat could almost be described as [Removed for Content]  as per it's original usage. It does have a jaunty, cheery look to it, but I wouldn't wear it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mirdo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Gailstryd]

<P>what if i were a [Removed for Content] mexican.....or or or a wet [Removed for Content] mexican! ! !</P> <P>hmm lets see now offensive......nope none of that is offensive to me prolly cause I have a brain enough to know it wasn't meant in that way or cause I realize my pathetic grasp on what is said in a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] game forum doesn't matter enough to completely and utterly derail and crap out a simple conversation.  As for whether or not [Removed for Content] is offensive and deragatory...yes it depends on how it was used and yes it depends on teh person hearing and using it.  However, given the current state of "american" english and the way it has developed and is used saying something like [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] balls [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] boobies [Removed for Content] etc etc usually means squat and is added more for flair and flavor or just as a side note tossed in cause everyone does don't you know!  I'm serious, I can't tell you how many times a day i say whatever "offensive" word and yet not have it mean what it literally means or have it mean what it would mean in a deragatory sense....most of the time when I say [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it means NOTHING! and just got tossed in tehre for whatever reason.  And if you are seriously going to go ape [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] over someone saying [Removed for Content] in a forum off hand with out malicious intent.....don't you have some poisoned punch and a comet to go play with instead?</P>

[Gailstryd]

OH and for soemthing constructive...the robinhood hat looks fine imo...would i wear it...yeah.  It is a classic and has been done to greater and lesser success through it's life.  Do I think it still defines the customary head garb of a ranger.....to some maybe but to me no.  The new age ranger seems to be more into cloaks and hoods and in all they'd avail him more use than a scrap of a hat with a feather on top.  Now if i were to look at someone off the wall and was suppose to be able to tell you waht their proffession was the person in the robinhood cap would be a woodsman/hunter/ranger and the person in a hood would be a rogue/thief/wizard even/ranger/etc/etc/etc could be anything really since just about anyone would wear a hood given it's warming and weathering properties lol.

[Gareorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>As a matter of fact yes, The word [Removed for Content] being used as a representation of "bad" is offensive. I would think at this point people would know that. I'm really shocked people can be that insensitive at this point. Maybe I just don't generally hang out with people who are immature enough to use it as a derogatory term or maybe they're just more aware of what could be offensive to people, I don't know. But many people I know (not just [Removed for Content] people but straight people too) Get offended when people use it in that manner. It's inconsiderate and insensitive. If we started using other minority terms as replacements for "bad" I would imagine people would have a problem with THAT. So yes it is offensive. I would think the mods would be mature enough to realize it's offensive. You've certainly never seen any of them or the dev team use it that way have you? And they aren't necessarily the most professional group of people. They joke around too but they know what's insensitive and what's offensive. So yes I get a little pain in my stomach every time someone says that because I would think people would have learned by now. I guess I was wrong. Sorry for assuming people were more mature than they are.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Whao, whao, WHOA!  I most certainly did not use the term [Removed for Content] in an offensive manner.  You need to take your personal political agenda somewhere other than the Ranger forums.  I was racking my mind trying to figure what it was that offended you.  Have you nothing better to do than lurk around waiting for someone to say something that can be construed as "offensive" in your twisted mind?  I said "[Removed for Content] [Removed for Content]."  I did not say "the hat was [Removed for Content]", nor did I use the derogatory spelling "[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]."  I did not hyphenate "[Removed for Content]-[Removed for Content]" to indicate the [Removed for Content] was a homosexual.  That was developed in your mind, and you need to get it out of the gutter.</P> <P>Most importantly...  Dude, you need therapy.  You called me insensitive, immature, and inconsiderate.  I might very well be all those things.  But if I am, you wouldn't know it.  Another thing you didn't know about me is that My 26 year old daughter is [Removed for Content].   So please take your radical political soapbox somewhere else.  It's not appreciated and it's probably the most offensive thing I've come across in over a month.</P>

[Gareorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR> Also in response to whether or not this is against the forum rules I point you to the "Rules of Conduct" which state<BR><BR> <P>You may <STRONG>NOT</STRONG> post or place in a signature any material that:</P> <UL> <LI><STRONG>Attacks or insults others on the board</STRONG>. Feel free to debate the idea, but do not turn your disagreement into an attack upon the poster or any person or group.</LI> <LI><STRONG>Engages in name-calling</STRONG>, harassment, or threats.</LI> <LI>Contains obscenity, vulgarity, profanity or is sexually explicit. Though we do have a filter in place to catch unintentional obscenity from time to time, this is not a license to abuse it. Bypassing the obscenity filter by using letter, number, or character combinations that allow the obscene or inappropriate word to appear is unacceptable as well.</LI> <LI>Disparages any religion, race, nation, gender, or sexual orientation.</LI> <LI>Is considered inappropriate for children 13 or over as governed by general standards of decency in the United States of America.</LI> <LI>Infringes upon anyone's privacy rights.</LI> <LI><STRONG>Is off-topic for the forum</STRONG>. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. There is a forum called Non-Gameplay Discussion for topics that don't relate directly to EverQuest II gameplay. However, be aware that the Rules of Conduct will still be enforced. Do not assume it is a board that welcomes every discussion; debating religion, arguing politics, looking for romantic partners, and attacking other games or companies are all examples of topics better suited for other boards and websites.</LI></UL> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You might want to adhere to a few of these rules yourself.</P> <P>To get the thread back from the unwarranted hijacking...  I don't really care for the hat.  Everytime I see it, I think of the old Errol Flynn movies which seem a little out of place in Lyceum.  But that's just me.<BR></P>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> TwistedRiddles wrote: <div></div>Also in response to whether or not this is against the forum rules I point you to the "Rules of Conduct" which state <p>You may <strong>NOT</strong> post or place in a signature any material that:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Attacks or insults others on the board</strong>. Feel free to debate the idea, but do not turn your disagreement into an attack upon the poster or any person or group.</li> <li><strong>Engages in name-calling</strong>, harassment, or threats.</li> <li>Contains obscenity, vulgarity, profanity or is sexually explicit. Though we do have a filter in place to catch unintentional obscenity from time to time, this is not a license to abuse it. Bypassing the obscenity filter by using letter, number, or character combinations that allow the obscene or inappropriate word to appear is unacceptable as well.</li> <li>Disparages any religion, race, nation, gender, or sexual orientation.</li> <li>Is considered inappropriate for children 13 or over as governed by general standards of decency in the United States of America.</li> <li>Infringes upon anyone's privacy rights.</li> <li><strong>Is off-topic for the forum</strong>. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. There is a forum called Non-Gameplay Discussion for topics that don't relate directly to EverQuest II gameplay. However, be aware that the Rules of Conduct will still be enforced. Do not assume it is a board that welcomes every discussion; debating religion, arguing politics, looking for romantic partners, and attacking other games or companies are all examples of topics better suited for other boards and websites.</li></ul> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>You might want to adhere to a few of these rules yourself.</p> <p>To get the thread back from the unwarranted hijacking...  I don't really care for the hat.  Everytime I see it, I think of the old Errol Flynn movies which seem a little out of place in Lyceum.  But that's just me.</p><hr></blockquote>Okay... well the way you used it implied that was the usage for the word. In the end I wasn't even arguing with you. The comment I made was directed at what I inferred from the language you used. I didn't yell at you. I simply stated that it was unnecessary language to use. That's all. The person that got me riled up was the person who was arguing with me over whether or not the word was offensive at all when used in a deragatory manner. Not you. You never pushed the issue. I simply stated that I felt it was unnecessary and could be taken offensively and it certainly could. When people started telling me the word could not be taken offensively is when I started to lose it. Because I feel people have become desensitized to the point where they don't know that this type of thing can be offensive. And for the record I wasn't lurking the boards to find instances of this word. I happen to find that it's actually pretty rare on these boards. I did a search after this and it took quite a while to find one where someone used the word in that manner. Sorry if my anger seemed misdirected. I realized you never actually meant to be offensive but the person who was arguing over whether or not the word IS offensive when used in that manner IS in the wrong so I do not regret arguing that point. and I'm not exactly sure WHAT you meant was [Removed for Content] then in your comment. but it could certainly be taken to mean you meant it was derrogatory since you were insulting the hat when you used it. I don't have a political agenda for the record. I don't even consider this political it is simply trying to stop people from being offensive.</div>

[Marcuzs]

This thread is [Removed for Content]

[Gareorn]

<DIV>Fair enough.  FYI, the word [Removed for Content] is often used as a slang term to mean "flashy" in many sub-cultures and is often complementary.  Probably comes from the flashy dress of those in the [Removed for Content]-Pride Parades.  I apologize for getting upset over this.  In my mind, I made a legitimate on-topic post , which was used to derail the thread into a discussion about sub-culture sensitivity.  I over reacted.</DIV>

[Rinio]

<P>[Removed for Content] means happy. homosexual people started useing it to describ themselves. but can you honestly say being [Removed for Content] makes a person any happier then being hetro?</P> <P>if your going to call something [Removed for Content] then say [Removed for Content].</P> <P>[Removed for Content] means Happy ^_^</P> <P>but this thread is [Removed for Content] /chuckle</P>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<div></div> <div>Fair enough.  FYI, the word [Removed for Content] is often used as a slang term to mean "flashy" in many sub-cultures and is often complementary.  Probably comes from the flashy dress of those in the [Removed for Content]-Pride Parades.  I apologize for getting upset over this.  In my mind, I made a legitimate on-topic post , which was used to derail the thread into a discussion about sub-culture sensitivity.  I over reacted.</div><hr></blockquote>If you meant flashy than I agree and I appologize for misinterpretting.  The hat is flashy. It's just that normally when people use that word to describe an inanimate object that's not what they mean. I shouldn't have jumped to that conclusion. Sorry.</div>

[Runewind]

Now truly back to the topic at hand. The assassin hat does look better than ours. But when cloaks come out I think we will look better I mean our hat actually looks like it belongs with a cloak. Whoever heard of a ninja in a cape?<div></div>

[Prandtl]

<P>I think the hat sucks</P> <P>unless thats offensive, that is!  :smileyvery-happy:</P>

[Jay]

<P>Do me a favor, will you? The next time any of you have a [Removed for Content] problem with someone's word usage on this forum, take it up with that person privately. Find out if they really meant what you think they did. Discuss it amongst yourselves. There is absolutely no reason that these exchanges require an audience. Use the PMs and settle your issues one-on-one, please. That will spare the rest of us some unneeded drama, and it won't put a perfectly harmless discussion at risk of getting locked b/c it degenerates into bickering. Thank you.</P> <P>For what it's worth regarding the topic at hand - I'm not a big fan of the Robin Hood cap. I don't think it really looks bad at all, it's well done for the style of hat that it is; I'm not not a fan of that style. Probably b/c it would look ridiculous on a kerra. (Not that the hood looks all that great either, but oh well.) </P>

[TerriBlades]

<P>Now that things have seemed to settle down a bit... </P> <P>Im going to have to agree with you Jay, I myself do not find the hat appealing at all. I could see where some rangers would fancy it being more of the Robin Hood style and all, but there again.. Didnt he always wear tights? ICH! I sure wouldnt wear it, and Im much happier with the hood, and I think it would look very nice with a cape (if done properly)</P>

[Runewind]

<div></div>Sorry, Jay. I didn't intend for it to derail the topic. It was a sideline comment because I felt that it was unnecessary language. I didn't feel it was needed to get the point across. I thought we could have a fine discussion about the topic without resorting to using language that might be seen as offensive. It's intention was not to derail the topic it was a  side comment. I wasn't even angry when I stated it. I was just bringing it to his attention. Yes, I misunderstood his intention and I appologized for that. It was an honest mistake. I didn't actually get upset until people started arguing with me about whether or not it was offensive and I felt I had to defend the fact that it certainly was. I try really hard to keep my cool on the boards for that reason. On the topic of the troubador hat. Everyone has their own opinions. I like our current hat but I would like theirs too. But the original topic was actually about the assassin hat. Which as I said may look better than ours now but who ever heard of a ninja in a cape? When cloaks come out I think we win.<div></div><p>Message Edited by TwistedRiddles on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:03 PM</span>

[Tarryn]

<P>The main problem I have with the hood I found after I recently started using the SOGA model for my ranger (after finally getting the look how I like it).  With SOGA on, when I put the hood on...the shoulders of the hood stick out past my arms.  Also, the headpiece of the hood outlines the head, rather than draping naturally like cloth would.  </P> <P>It definitely could use some additional work, imo.</P><p>Message Edited by Tarryn on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:30 PM</span>

[Runewind]

<div><blockquote><hr>Tarryn wrote:<div></div> <p>The main problem I have with the hood is that I've recently started using the SOGA model for my ranger, after finally getting the look how I like it.  But now, I put the hood on...and the shoulders stick out past my arms.  Also, the headpiece of the hood outlines the head, rather than draping naturally like cloth would.  </p> <p>It definitely could use some additional work, imo.</p><hr></blockquote>Hm...yeah well I don't use SOGA so I'm not sure how it looks with them. Well that and I don't have a hood to look at =P</div>

[Carna]

<P>I'm one of those people that don't like the way the word "[Removed for Content]" is bandied about as a pejorative. It sounds crass to me. Makes me cringe... as it happens however, the hat actually does look [Removed for Content]. If your Ranger is the type to roam with a band of merry men then this is probably a good thing. If not, it's probably a cause for concern.... fair advice would probably be to not stand around Qeynos Harbour in that hat unless you specifically want to strike up interesting conversations with sailors.</P> <P>Personally I've always fealt that on stumbling across an ogre in bright pink armour the comment "well that looks [Removed for Content]" is probably appropriate, because, well it does... describing a raid wipe as "[Removed for Content]" probably isn't, because it's not. The later always sounds like a petulant insecure teenager to me.</P> <P>Hey! Ogre or Troll Rangers in that hat... that has to be a screenshot worth having!</P> <P>And before anybody throws a hissy fit... I worked in theatre for a decade, don't have anything I need to prove one way or another; and I'm happy to leave the reader unsure as to whether I'm [Removed for Content] or not <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[guiddian2]

<DIV>this went from a fun post to an annoying debate of the meaning and use of that word, for gods sake stop making a big deal of it and lets see some more hats!</DIV>

[jtiltonaz]

<P>I'm not sure what to say with out offending homesexuals  or pimps. I am not here to offend either, and if you are a homesexual [Removed for Content] then I'm trully sorry. If I offend either then I apologize ahead of time.</P> <P>As for the troubador hat, I have to agree. It looks more fit for a night out in an all male dance club then for fighting Tranix in DT. I prefer my hood. </P> <P>I finally hit the level that I can wear it and for the first time ever I turned on my show hood or helm. I play with the SOGA models and I totally dig the way the hood looks. </P>

[Qaeadyen]

This thread was originally started by me to comment on the new hats available to some of the scout classes. Somehow it got off track and hasnt seem to recover so I will ask you all as nicely as possible to please keep this thread about its original subject. You are more than welcome to comment about hat suggestions for rangers but please do nto turn this thread into another annoying arguement of something not at all pertaining to its original subject. k .......thanks

[Deml]

I blame Gareorn for this thread, we all know he's the troublemaker of the bunch.  :smileytongue:

[Gareorn]

<P>:smileysurprised:</P> <P>I resemble that remark!</P>

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> EthyarionEQ wrote:<BR>Instead of being jealous of the Assassin hat you should take a look at the new Troubador one and be grateful we didn't get that.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I like the troub hat :smileysad:

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gailstryder wrote:<BR> <P>what if i were a [Removed for Content] mexican.....or or or a wet [Removed for Content] mexican! ! !<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Mmmm, Rainbow Margaritas!</P> <P>/drool</P>

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gareorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Fair enough.  FYI, the word [Removed for Content] is often used as a slang term to mean "<FONT color=#ff00cc>flashy</FONT>" in many sub-cultures and is often complementary.  Probably comes from the flashy dress of those in the [Removed for Content]-Pride Parades.  I apologize for getting upset over this.  In my mind, I made a legitimate on-topic post , which was used to derail the thread into a discussion about sub-culture sensitivity.  I over reacted.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>If you meant flashy than I agree and I appologize for misinterpretting.  The hat is flashy. It's just that normally when people use that word to describe an inanimate object that's not what they mean. I shouldn't have jumped to that conclusion. Sorry.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The word is Flamboyant... not flashy. which can also denote [Removed for Content].  But heeeey, my ranger's [Removed for Content] >snap, snap, snap< and i use the term freely honey. /headswirl  LoL</P> <P>I don't get offended by the term [Removed for Content], and i don't think that people should be offended at any term unless directed at them in a negative way.  even then it's all on the person receiving how they are gonna react to it, no pun intended. :smileywink:</P> <P>some one says "you so [Removed for Content]" i say back "yeah, and your point?"   my freinds and i use neg terms with eachother as terms of endearment.  words such as the "n" word, "b" word, and mofo(the real version), along with [Removed for Content] and P*$$y.</P><p>Message Edited by KniteShayd on <span class=date_text>09-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:17 PM</span>

[jinxedup]

You know how I know you're [Removed for Content]?

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jinxedup wrote:<BR> You know how I know you're [Removed for Content]?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>?<BR>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jinxedup wrote:<BR> You know how I know you're [Removed for Content]?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>"Because you just macrame'd yourself a pair of jean shorts."<BR>

[KniteShayd]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jay42 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jinxedup wrote:<BR> You know how I know you're [Removed for Content]?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>"Because you just macrame'd yourself a pair of jean shorts."<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I didnt know you could macrame denim..., something your not telling us Jay?:smileytongue:

[Jay]

LOL I don't make the knitting rules, I'm just quoting one of the many hilarious answers to Jinxedup's quoted question. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[StarryEyedElf]

<P>It's a shame, even though the thread was initially derailed, someone got it back on target, and THEN it was derailed AGAIN. Honestly, I doubt it can go back to being on topic.</P> <P>That said, it is NEVER okay EVER to call anything "[Removed for Content]," especially considering it wasn't being used in the sense where the hat was being called happy. "[Removed for Content]," in this case, was being equated to "bad." In my opinion, it is a bigotted point of view to equate those two words together, and SOE does not allow for conversation that disparages any religion, race, nation, gender, or <STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00>sexual orientation</FONT></STRONG>.</P> <P>Thread closed.</P>