What Haste item are you using?

[Jay]

<DIV>I have an old Fabled bracelet that I've outgrown, but I keep it b/c it grants me 20% haste. I really need to replace it - the stats are way low nowadays - but I haven't been able to find something that gives a comparable haste modifier. I do sometimes hit cap on raids but I'd rather not lose too much haste for routine hunting. What are you guys in T7 using? Are there many items that even grant a decent haste modifier? Or do you just roll without item-based haste and just rely on group buffs?</DIV>

[Pins]

Deathtoll Neck/Wrist item is probably what I bet most people use, 25str/agi, 10wis/int, 110hp/power, resists, 23% Haste. There's also a neck/wrist item with 22% haste off Tarinax(+15 to all, 110hp/power, resists), and a belt off Hurricanas(~20str/agi/sta, ~90hp/power, resists) with 23% haste.

[Prandtl]

Flowing black silk sash, and my pet monk

[Rahmn]

I got the Tarinax haste item, 22% neck/wrist, cause I'm too lazy to finish up DT(need Harla)<p>Message Edited by Rahmn on <span class=date_text>08-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:08 AM</span>

[Deml]

<DIV>I use the DT access neck/wrist item.</DIV>

[Stormhawk]

<div></div><div></div>I use the haste belt from Roost since I'm not quite DT flagged yet.<font size="1">Edit: Looking at the stats again, I'm an idiot for saying I'd replace the belt.</font><p>Message Edited by Stormhawk on <span class=date_text>08-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:16 PM</span>

[Teksun]

Nemisis Bracer. You'll get one of those soon Kaeros...<div></div>

[Jay]

<P>Nemesis chain and the mysterious "Roost item" (which Roost?) are the only one of those I have a shot at right now, and aren't the Nemesis bracers like 5% haste only? I was hoping for something over 15% at least. </P> <P>Oh well, whenever we get to Tarinax or DT, you and I are gonna have to arm-wrestle, Tex. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </P>

[Dragonsviperz]

Yea the Nemesis chain bracers is only 5%. I'm not sure on the Roost item though Kaeros. I would bet its Roost in Mystic Lake though.

[Gareorn]

<DIV>This brings up a question.  Do haste items stack?  I've only had the one (FBSS) that I use when I need a little extra haste.</DIV>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<DIV>This brings up a question.  Do haste items stack?  I've only had the one (FBSS) that I use when I need a little extra haste.</DIV><hr></blockquote>No, they do not.

[Stormhawk]

<div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div> <p>Nemesis chain and the mysterious "Roost item" (which Roost?) are the only one of those I have a shot at right now, and aren't the Nemesis bracers like 5% haste only? I was hoping for something over 15% at least. </p> <p>Oh well, whenever we get to Tarinax or DT, you and I are gonna have to arm-wrestle, Tex. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><hr></blockquote>The Roost is in Mystic Lake.  You need to have completed the access quest which is found on the 3rd floor of the monk tower in the Village of Shin.It is a x2 zone that has rare named in it.  One of the named drops the Cartilagenous Cord.  Stats are 22 STR 20 AGI 26 STA 120 HP 121 Power 568 Disease 639 Heat / Mental and 20% haste.  The last guy is pretty difficult but you can farm the named before him for some decent loot.The belt is pretty awesome even without the haste. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by Stormhawk on <span class=date_text>08-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:17 PM</span>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pinski wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gareorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>This brings up a question.  Do haste items stack?  I've only had the one (FBSS) that I use when I need a little extra haste.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>No, they do not.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Indeed - for the most part, any item with a special buff attached does not stack with other items that have a buff with the same name. I believe Flowing Thought is the exception, but Calaglin would know more about that. My understanding is that it doesn't matter what the effect of the buff is - if the name of the buff is different, it'll stack even if the effects are the same. Like if your boots said Haste and your gloves said Quickness, and they both increased attack speed by 10%, you'd effectively get 20% increased attack speed. (I'm making this up, though; I've never heard of Haste by any other name.)</P> <P>Thanks for the info on the Roost in Mystic Lake. I figured it wasn't the PoF version, LOL. So it looks like I'll be starting that access quest soon! </P>

[Dragonsviperz]

Yea Flowing Thought stacks. And that access quest is pretty easy and short. Starts in the Monk Tower. You have to mouse over a book and read all the text to recieve the quest.

[TofuPatty]

<blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>My understanding is that it doesn't matter what the effect of the buff is - if the name of the buff is different, it'll stack even if the effects are the same. Like if your boots said Haste and your gloves said Quickness, and they both increased attack speed by 10%, you'd effectively get 20% increased attack speed. (I'm making this up, though; I've never heard of Haste by any other name.)</p> <hr></blockquote>Haste doesn't work this way - at least with anything that I'm aware of.  Cyenadros, a x2 contested in SoS drops chain leggings with the effect Lightning Limbs, increases attack speed by 21% when equipped.  This doesn't stack with any other worn haste item, or so I was told by a guildie who got a pair. What's kind of suprising to me is the number of people I run across without any haste items at all, opting to wear usually a belt with higher STR than the FBSS.  I was unlucky on haste items to replace the FBSS til the DT bracelet, so I wore the FBSS for 38 levels.  15% haste is by far better for DPS than 15 or 16 more STR in the belt slot. <div></div>

[Mirdo]

<P>Fitzpittle in DT also drops a 23% haste belt - not stats but loaded with resists. But if you can get to and kill him you would probably have your access wrist item anyway :smileyhappy:</P> <P><A href="http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6491/flawless7os.jpg" target=_blank>http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6491/flawless7os.jpg</A></P> <P>Mirdo.</P>

[Teksun]

I don't see why haste doesn't stack... I mean it IS capped right??? 100%??? <div></div>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TofuPatty wrote:<BR><BR>Haste doesn't work this way - at least with anything that I'm aware of.  Cyenadros, a x2 contested in SoS drops chain leggings with the effect Lightning Limbs, increases attack speed by 21% when equipped.  This doesn't stack with any other worn haste item, or so I was told by a guildie who got a pair.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for passing it along. <BR>

[LoreLady]

Im using the same as you kaeros (Tarinax is still being a pain for our guild) - dont think hes 3groupable with relic and such <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Teksun wrote:I don't see why haste doesn't stack... I mean it IS capped right??? 100%??? <div></div><hr></blockquote>It's make buffs useful stll, and not allow you to [Removed for Content] out haste items and make other classes completely useless.

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pinski wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Teksun wrote:<BR>I don't see why haste doesn't stack... I mean it IS capped right??? 100%??? <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It's make buffs useful stll, and not allow you to [Removed for Content] out haste items and make other classes completely useless.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>While I totally agree, I have to wonder why it's okay for so much FT to stack, for the same reason - many classes help power regen. Do you think it's just because power regen is not capped, so it can stack indefinitely?<BR>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:While I totally agree, I have to wonder why it's okay for so much FT to stack, for the same reason - many classes help power regen. Do you think it's just because power regen is not capped, so it can stack indefinitely?<hr></blockquote>Because they made it so with items you can only get half of the In-Combat Power Regen cap, and there is no other way to make up the rest of the cap except by buffs(or traits/level, but you can only add 18 by traits+level(at 70)). Whereas due to the fact that haste items are already up so high(23%), they'd have to make it so that you could only cap at a low-ball value for it, due to caps. Of course, what they could do is let them stack, and actually make more mobs with haste/dps debuffs, which would in turn make it work out.

[Zarath]

<DIV>Can you guys post screen shots and mob/zone info for the haste stuff that is higher than 15% (FBSS)?  I can't seem to track any of them down on fan sites, and I don't have access to the items database on sony.  I've been using FBSS since i got it, lvl 70 now and working on DT access.</DIV>