The Theory

[PrinceThrakha]

<DIV>Case:</DIV> <DIV>There is an imbalance between the number of players choosing Queynos over Freeport. In order to make more players choose Freeport the the ranger class has been severly nerfed</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charge:</DIV> <DIV>* the chance of a master drops for evil classes is higher than that for good classes</DIV> <DIV>* DPS for good classes are lower than for evil classes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Evidence:</DIV> <DIV>* compare prices between masters for different classes on the broker</DIV> <DIV>* parse DPS ib raids</DIV> <DIV>* <A href="http://www.eq2census.com/" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://www.eq2census.com</FONT></A> - count the number of players for each class, all servers (thanks to Gerorn for showing me this)</DIV> <DIV>* check the amount of items on the Freeport broker versus the amounts of items on the Queynos broker (i.e. in Maj'Dul)</DIV> <DIV>* check the lag and amount of players online at the same time, same weekday in Queynos Harbor and whatever part of Freeport where the docks are.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The idea is not new and original. It is not mine originally. But it is worth looking at again, because it connects to 90% of all the other ranger threads.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course we will never get an official confirmation. For some unexplainable reason this subject is taboo and EQ2 players don't seem to be worthy the time of developers answering straight forward, polite, justified questions. Moderators are happy to lock any threads that bring up the subject. Its not a consipracy - just a plain lack of servicemindedness.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Woodstick,</DIV> <DIV>70 ranger,</DIV> <DIV>Crushbone server</DIV>

[PrinceThrakha]

<P>I forogt one piece of evidence</P> <P>Lately you are able to betray at any level. Is that because they want you to switch from ranger to assassin or something else?</P>

[Mabes]

Well, I do agree that they want less people to play rangers because there are so many, though let me make a couple points.  One, the prices on master I's are higher for rangers, because there are more rangers.  More demand = higher prices.  Second, for PvE server's, it doesn't really matter if there's more good than bad, and on PvP servers, there already is considerably more evil than good players.

[Drainlo]

I think SOE is evil, therefore they want players to be evil also.  hehehehehe

[BSbon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mabes wrote:<BR> Well, I do agree that they want less people to play rangers because there are so many, though let me make a couple points.  One, the prices on master I's are higher for rangers, because there are more rangers.  More demand = higher prices.  Second, for PvE server's, it doesn't really matter if there's more good than bad, and on PvP servers, there already is considerably more evil than good players.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i've seen the opposite of this on kith. last night i checked ranger masters for level 45-53 (my level range) and there were 5 pages of them most priced at around 1 plat or less. cheapest was 67g and most expensive was 3 plat.

[Balerius]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> PrinceThrakhath wrote:<BR> <DIV>Case:</DIV> <DIV>There is an imbalance between the number of players choosing Queynos over Freeport. In order to make more players choose Freeport the the ranger class has been severly nerfed</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charge:</DIV> <DIV>* the chance of a master drops for evil classes is higher than that for good classes</DIV> <DIV>* DPS for good classes are lower than for evil classes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Evidence:</DIV> <DIV>* compare prices between masters for different classes on the broker</DIV> <DIV>* parse DPS ib raids</DIV> <DIV>* <A href="http://www.eq2census.com/" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://www.eq2census.com</FONT></A> - count the number of players for each class, all servers (thanks to Gerorn for showing me this)</DIV> <DIV>* check the amount of items on the Freeport broker versus the amounts of items on the Queynos broker (i.e. in Maj'Dul)</DIV> <DIV>* check the lag and amount of players online at the same time, same weekday in Queynos Harbor and whatever part of Freeport where the docks are.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The idea is not new and original. It is not mine originally. But it is worth looking at again, because it connects to 90% of all the other ranger threads.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course we will never get an official confirmation. For some unexplainable reason this subject is taboo and EQ2 players don't seem to be worthy the time of developers answering straight forward, polite, justified questions. Moderators are happy to lock any threads that bring up the subject. Its not a consipracy - just a plain lack of servicemindedness.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Woodstick,</DIV> <DIV>70 ranger,</DIV> <DIV>Crushbone server</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll probably get banned...or much much worse for this, but....</P> <P>The truth is that the devs are actually Orcs.  I mean real honest to goodness Orcs who have slipped into San Diego from a dimensional portal that was created on the Crushbone Everquest II server.  I saw it happen with my own eyes.  Several Orcs were gathered in Zek and a great shimmering happened...and they stepped through.</P> <P>They arrived in San Diego and took over the SoE offices.  Of course, no one really noticed in California whn it happened because...well...it's California.</P> <P>Anyway, they periodically revisit Norrath via black helicopters that they fly back through the dimensional portal.  They fly around causing lag and casting dps debuffs on rangers.  (as a side note, when you get stuck on clouds or your griffin flies erratically, it's because their black helicopter is close by and they don't want to be seen).</P> <P>At any rate, while the OP is close to the truth, I have given you the real answer to what is going on.  Honest.  Just look at the evidence.</P>

[Drainlo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Balerius wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'll probably get banned...or much much worse for this, but....</BLOCKQUOTE> <P>The truth is that the devs are actually Orcs.  I mean real honest to goodness Orcs who have slipped into San Diego from a dimensional portal that was created on the Crushbone Everquest II server.  I saw it happen with my own eyes.  Several Orcs were gathered in Zek and a great shimmering happened...and they stepped through.</P> <P>They arrived in San Diego and took over the SoE offices.  Of course, no one really noticed in California whn it happened because...well...it's California.</P> <P>Anyway, they periodically revisit Norrath via black helicopters that they fly back through the dimensional portal.  They fly around causing lag and casting dps debuffs on rangers.  (as a side note, when you get stuck on clouds or your griffin flies erratically, it's because their black helicopter is close by and they don't want to be seen).</P> <P>At any rate, while the OP is close to the truth, I have given you the real answer to what is going on.  Honest.  Just look at the evidence.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> well i hope thats true, cuz it's better than what i was thinking lol <BR>

[Teksun]

<div></div>If Rangers were based in the haunted mansion, I wouldn't play one. I just don't like that city. It's to much of a maze, LOL<div></div><p>Message Edited by Teksun on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:36 AM</span>

[PrinceThrakha]

<DIV>Belarius, all I can read from your post is that you don't understand the difference between conspiracy theory and plain straight forward critisim/constructive discussion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Does this dimension portal/orc story reflect the education level of your immediate neighbourhood?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How revealing...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Go look up "customer relations" in a dictionary. You need to buy a dictionary first but that is a whole other story. Good thing you seem to know the alphabet, or most of it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One thing at a time. I don't want you to think to much or you might overheat and evaporate.</DIV><p>Message Edited by PrinceThrakhath on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:29 AM</span>

[Teksun]

Gee, SOMEBODY lost there sense of humor... I'll track it down for you for 1pp....<div></div>

[Saihung23]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Balerius wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll probably get banned...or much much worse for this, but....</P> <P>The truth is that the devs are actually Orcs.  I mean real honest to goodness Orcs who have slipped into San Diego from a dimensional portal that was created on the Crushbone Everquest II server.  I saw it happen with my own eyes.  Several Orcs were gathered in Zek and a great shimmering happened...and they stepped through.</P> <P>They arrived in San Diego and took over the SoE offices.  Of course, no one really noticed in California whn it happened because...well...it's California.</P> <P>Anyway, they periodically revisit Norrath via black helicopters that they fly back through the dimensional portal.  They fly around causing lag and casting dps debuffs on rangers.  (as a side note, when you get stuck on clouds or your griffin flies erratically, it's because their black helicopter is close by and they don't want to be seen).</P> <P>At any rate, while the OP is close to the truth, I have given you the real answer to what is going on.  Honest.  Just look at the evidence.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That is some funny poo right there <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Why did anyone take offense to that?  I personally am hard pressed not to believe it.<BR></P>

[BSbon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Balerius wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll probably get banned...or much much worse for this, but....</P> <P>The truth is that the devs are actually Orcs.  I mean real honest to goodness Orcs who have slipped into San Diego from a dimensional portal that was created on the Crushbone Everquest II server.  I saw it happen with my own eyes.  Several Orcs were gathered in Zek and a great shimmering happened...and they stepped through.</P> <P>They arrived in San Diego and took over the SoE offices.  Of course, no one really noticed in California whn it happened because...well...it's California.</P> <P>Anyway, they periodically revisit Norrath via black helicopters that they fly back through the dimensional portal.  They fly around causing lag and casting dps debuffs on rangers.  (as a side note, when you get stuck on clouds or your griffin flies erratically, it's because their black helicopter is close by and they don't want to be seen).</P> <P>At any rate, while the OP is close to the truth, I have given you the real answer to what is going on.  Honest.  Just look at the evidence.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That is some funny poo right there <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Why did anyone take offense to that?  I personally am hard pressed not to believe it.<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>it cant be true cause i hear they are gnolls.

[Prandtl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Teksun wrote:<BR>Gee, SOMEBODY lost there sense of humor... I'll track it down for you for 1pp....<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sorry.  Mulder and Scully already have the assignment to find it

[Jay]

<P>Loosen up, Prince-guy... it's just a joke, and a pretty funny one at that.</P> <P>If you'd prefer, we could just leave the humor to one side and say "Your theory is utterly ridiculous." </P> <P>But that's not half as fun now, is it?</P>

[KnightOfTheWo]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div> <p>Loosen up, Prince-guy... it's just a joke, and a pretty funny one at that.</p> <p>If you'd prefer, we could just leave the humor to one side and say "Your theory is utterly ridiculous." </p> <p>But that's not half as fun now, is it?</p><hr></blockquote>Aye, it was  just a joke. (At least that was how I read it.) And it WAS funny. I'm sure no flames were intended. I will out manuever Teksun on this one though and say I will get your (Prince-guy) sense of humor back for the low low price of 75 gold...<span>:smileyhappy:</span></div><p>Message Edited by KnightOfTheWord on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:46 AM</span>

[Louden1]

Evil outnumbers Good on PvP Negafen.

[Lexan]

<DIV>Well whatever the conspiracy i do believe that Rangers got the (nerf bat) because of pvp......</DIV>

[KnightOfTheWo]

<div><blockquote><hr>Lexani- wrote:<div>Well whatever the conspiracy i do believe that Rangers got the (nerf bat) because of pvp......</div><hr></blockquote>Now if only you could prove it...<span>:smileysurprised:</span></div>

[Lexan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KnightOfTheWord wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lexani- wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well whatever the conspiracy i do believe that Rangers got the (nerf bat) because of pvp......</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Now if only you could prove it...<SPAN>:smileysurprised:</SPAN><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>None of the pvp rangers are complaining <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[KnightOfTheWo]

<div><blockquote><hr>Lexani- wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> KnightOfTheWord wrote: <div> <blockquote> <hr> Lexani- wrote: <div>Well whatever the conspiracy i do believe that Rangers got the (nerf bat) because of pvp......</div> <hr> </blockquote>Now if only you could prove it...<span>:smileysurprised:</span></div> <hr> </blockquote>None of the pvp rangers are complaining <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>You know, you've got a point there, wonder how raiding works on the PvP side actually. Ah well. For those that have the time I suppose <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[Jay]

<DIV>I don't think the Devs intentionally create problems with ANY class. That'd be stupid, and completely contrary to their best interests. I believe them when they say they're trying to design the best game they can - that IS in their best interests - but their "best game" may not be your favorite game, and the changes they make b/c they seem them as necessary may not be changes we happen to agree with as players. (Dang, I should work for Sony eh? I'm all PR spin up in this beeach.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That said...I doubt change classes to influence city population. That'd be pretty silly. If they want to help FP population increase, maybe deploy horde of trained gnomes with brooms and washrags to make the residential districts look a little less filthy. It'd take a pretty hardcore roleplayer to enjoy living in the cesspits outside the city proper.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do suspect PvP has more to do with some changes in the PvE game than SOE lets on, though. *adjusts tinfoil hat*</DIV>

[PrinceThrakha]

<P>Whatever reason they have. They gotta now how we feel about it.</P> <P>At least the discussion got started. </P> <P>Also their policy of no comment on what they are messing with, doesnt hold. There can be no good reason to not give just a brief explanation of what the overall aim is.</P> <P>At some point 10$ a month will be too much for all this cr#p</P><p>Message Edited by PrinceThrakhath on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:46 PM</span>