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brandi7920
03-29-2006, 02:57 AM
<div>I'm curious about this line. I'm planning on going half and half with Agi and Int. I'm 1 AA away from filling the AA line (4,4,4,4,<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and then moving on to fill the Int line. So Rangers that have already chosen the Int path, how is it working for you? Have you noticed an increase in dmg? Do you know if the poison debuffs stack with other another predator's Int line debuffs? (I'm guess, no, but still curious)</div><div> </div><div>Right now, while I'm trying to get my last AA point to get my end Agi line perk, I decided to use the AA points that are just sitting there waiting for me to get 8 pts - so I maxed the ranged crit on Agi. It may be hard to give up that 22% crit when I respec...I <3 big numbers. :smileywink:</div><div> </div><div>Anyways, I'd love a bit of insight into the Int line, from people that are currently using it.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks! </div>

KannaWhoopass
03-29-2006, 03:36 AM
<div></div><div>if i were you id get agi line</div><div> </div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>8</div><div>8</div><div>then perhaps wait till you have enough to max int line or start second last skill then respec</div><div> </div><div>perhaps max str and int  #1 slots while you wait or put into areas where you see immediate results while waiting for points to get yer final configuration </div><p>Message Edited by KannaWhoopass on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:37 PM</span></p>

Yrield
03-29-2006, 04:45 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>KannaWhoopass wrote:<div></div><div>if i were you id get agi line</div><div> </div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>8</div><div>8</div><div>then perhaps wait till you have enough to max int line or start second last skill then respec</div><div> </div><div>perhaps max str and int  #1 slots while you wait or put into areas where you see immediate results while waiting for points to get yer final configuration </div><p>Message Edited by KannaWhoopass on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:37 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I agree,Agi line: 4/4/4/8/1 , then flip a coin to chose where to put your remaining aa <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>, you cant be wrong with Ranged expertise maxed and Poise</span><div></div>

A
03-29-2006, 05:04 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Yrieldom wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>KannaWhoopass wrote:<div></div><div>if i were you id get agi line</div><div> </div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>4</div><div>8</div><div>8</div><div>then perhaps wait till you have enough to max int line or start second last skill then respec</div><div> </div><div>perhaps max str and int  #1 slots while you wait or put into areas where you see immediate results while waiting for points to get yer final configuration </div><p>Message Edited by KannaWhoopass on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:37 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I agree,Agi line: 4/4/4/8/1 , then flip a coin to chose where to put your remaining aa <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>, you cant be wrong with Ranged expertise maxed and Poise</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Yep got the agi part maxed here and going str for the second part.</p><p>Most likely will go : 8/4/8/1 in str although am toying with going 5/4/4/8</p><p> </p>

Infinity0
03-29-2006, 09:26 AM
<div></div>Interesting post, as a young ranger I am attempting to plan my AA lines but am unsure wether to go INT or STR.  What secoundary AA line do raiding/Solo rangers find most useful INT or STR?<div></div>

LordAng
03-29-2006, 09:31 AM
<div></div>The way I am going is with the agi line at 4/4/4/8 and the Int line at 4/4/4/4/8. I dont know what i want to do with the extra left over points yet (and also, at one point i did all the INT line AAs and maxed it just to see how it was, then went back and got the AGI line instead cause i had a free respec). I would definately say go with the AGI line first, but i would skip the level 5 AGI line. As it stands i spend much of my time waiting for recast timers to pop back up at raids, i really dont need the cast timers going that much faster to wait more. Over the course of a raid fight, 35% increase cast timers probably only gets in a few more auto attack hits. i can see the the cast time reductions being infinately more useful on PvP and at least more useful soloing. Now, knowing how the the INT line is, i would highly suggest it. With 4 points into it, the Level 4 INT line gives something like 25% poison/dot/weapon proc crit, this is huge for rangers. even with only 4 points in it, poison and mortal reminder were critting constantly. Also, the level 5 INT ability is a nasty dot with a debuff to all stats, if you play your cards right, you can cast it twice in an encounter (cause it is up 2 mins from when you apply it, not when it goes off. if you put it on a min in advance of the pull, by the time you are figting, it will have gone off and you are ready to do it again). nextly, it adds a tiny bit more versatility and utility to the ranger class. i would highly suggest a poison that has 100% chance to proc and do from 470-650 damage a tick for 48 seconds with -21 to all combat stats over being able to cast a tad faster. like i said, ive done both, know how they work, this is just my opinion.

KannaWhoopass
03-29-2006, 11:39 AM
<div></div><p>What i was trying to say was after max agi</p><p>then pick points for the short term gains untill you have enough to respec into yer final selection</p><p>like perhaps after max agility you may put 8 points in to the first str line then 4 points into the int first one</p><p>then when you get more respec and go</p><p>4</p><p>4</p><p>4</p><p>1</p><p>into int line and start the improved poison crit</p><p>moving all of the str into the poison one ... or perhaps wait till you have enough to max out the crit in poison before you move the points there</p><p>all im saying  is max the effectiveness of yer AA points at all times the whole way thru . It is cheap to respec a few times  </p>

z3oslo
03-29-2006, 04:45 PM
<div></div><p></p><hr>Over the course of a raid fight, 35% increase cast timers probably only gets in a few more auto attack hits. i can see the the cast time reductions being infinately more useful on PvP and at least more useful soloing. Now, knowing how the the INT line is, i would highly suggest it. With 4 points into it, the Level 4 INT line gives something like 25% poison/dot/weapon proc crit, this is huge for rangers. even with only 4 points in it, poison and mortal reminder were critting constantly<p></p><hr><p>If you do nothing but raiding i can understand your decisions, however in a group or solo, the 35% reduction in cast time is awesome, and even better with a nice stun poison.</p><p><font color="#ffff00">kaboom - ching - kaboom - ching </font></p><p>I have not decided what line i will chose as my second line though, but i plan to max ranged crit. Gonna play around with them some, and parse over time to what gives me the best DPS. After all im  pure DPS class, and will bost my DPS whenever i can.</p><p> </p>

brandi7920
03-29-2006, 09:10 PM
<div></div><div>Those INT debuffs look really nice, and coming from a raiding ranger I think that'll be pretty sweet. I've currently got my pts set as Agi line: 4,4,4,8 (I love the maxed ranged crit!) and I'm currently filling up the Int line, now. I haven't taken the 30% faster cast time yet. I can see that being beneficial for soloing, but my time is spent raiding for the most part (can't make up my dang mind about these AAs! lol argh) ..but then I'm thinking.. well if it's on a faster cast time, even if the recast time is the same..I should still be able to cycle through my attacks faster..I think? lol So on any given fight, if you are using your CAs 30% faster, wouldn't that mean more DPS? /confused</div><div> </div><div>Anyways, I know one thing for sure... with a permanent 22% ranged crit chance, plus my 2% ranged crit chance from my mark of the awakening piece, plus the 41% ranged buff - I'm LOVING some big orange numbers. :smileywink: So I'll be definitely keeping my ranged crit maxed, regardless of whatever else I decide on. :smileyhappy:</div><div> </div><div>Side note, anyone else obsessed with their 'new' Focus Aim/fire buff? That spell has gone from me least used, to my most used. /applaud SOE on that change.</div><div> </div>

Fennir
03-29-2006, 09:15 PM
if you cast faster there is less chance you will interrupt your autoattack flow and less chance you will be interrupted during casting (especially important on big CAs or when in stealth)you can also fit more into a focus aim<div></div>

ColbieDtreehugger
03-29-2006, 10:16 PM
<div></div><div></div>I agree with Fenn, Poise is Def worth it. I had my AGI line at 44481 and decided to get away from poise cause I wasn't too happy with it. Thought I might be better maxing out my int line and keeping AGI at 44480. Well started going down my INT line, and wasn't TOO impressed, but noticed a HUGE diff in how much mana I was using due the fact I wasn't using SoA. Poise helps SoA SO much, and for the fact that it saves me ALOT of mana in long fight i think it is well worth it.<p>Message Edited by ColbieDtreehugger on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:16 AM</span></p>

Jay
03-29-2006, 10:41 PM
<div></div><p>I'm no authority on any of this, but I plan on maxing Ranged Crit, eventually investing in Poise, and possibly going with the STR tree after that. At first I looked down my nose at those abilities, but I'm almost exclusively using swords anyway, and I spend a fair amount of time in melee nowadays. I've never been a big fan of INT for rangers, but I need to take a closer look at that tree to see what's what.</p><p>Anyone gone the STR route yet and have any feedback?</p>

brandi7920
03-30-2006, 12:03 AM
<div></div><div><blockquote><p></p><hr><p>Fennir wrote:if you cast faster there is less chance you will interrupt your autoattack flow and less chance you will be interrupted during casting (especially important on big CAs or when in stealth)<font color="#ff9933">you can also fit more into a focus aim</font></p><div></div><hr></blockquote>Good call  - and I think you put that into a better perspective. I was thinking that might be how it would work..but well, I managed to confuse myself. :smileytongue:</div>