Updade 21b on test - Point Blank Shot's

[Memran]

<div><strong><font color="#ffcc00">*** Achievements ***</font></strong><div> </div><div>- Druid: Animal Charm now gives a visual warning when charm breaks, and 3 seconds of mesmerization on the target after the charm has broken.- Enchanter: Mana Flow's percentage has been changed to 10%.- Enchanter: Hypnosis now gives a visual warning when charm breaks, and 3 seconds of mesmerization on the target after the charm has broken.<strong><font color="#ffff00">- Predator: Point Blank Shot's duration is now affected by upgrades.</font></strong>- Rogue: Formation's health increase percentage has been corrected.- Rogue: Lunge Reversal is now a toggled ability that refreshes itself automatically.- Warrior: Buckler Reversal is now a toggled ability that refreshes itself automatically.</div><div> </div><div><font color="#0066ff">This certainly sounds good to me! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><div><font color="#0066ff">Can any rangers on test tell us how much each upgrade effects the duration? Whats the max?</font></div></div>

[Visay1]

Knowing SOE this does not sound good to me. I think it will be 4 sec now at 8 points and around 2 sec at 1 pointTo get the same stun we have now we have to invest 8 points.

[Its Da Ranger]

<div></div>Yup, it can either turn out to be a nerf or a nice upgrade for us, only way to find out is check it out on test <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[dbmoreland]

So has anyone bothered to go onto test and pull up the achievement window and look to see what the duration of PBS is for Rank 1?? Inquirering minds would like to know...<div></div>

[rcknchr]

<div></div>Hopefully they want make it where you have to put 8 points to get a 4 sec stun. Wish they would fix all the broken stuff in the game and leave alone what isnt broken. But if they do make it 8 points to get the 4 sec stun Ill still go the agi route but wont sink 8 point into it. If its a 2 sec stun then it will be another worthless AA just like Bounty imo.

[Fennir]

Rank 1 is 2.3sCan't see past that.<div></div>

[Carna]

<div></div>You got Assassins screaming blue murder over the rooting Lunge, so I guess this is SOEs way of toning it down. *shrug* <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[A]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Carnagh wrote:<div></div>You got Assassins screaming blue murder over the rooting Lunge, so I guess this is SOEs way of toning it down. *shrug* <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>Point Black shot is an assassin achievement too....

[Mary the Prophetess]

<div></div><p>So:</p><p>In order to get a chance to regain some of what we lost in LU-20, we recieve Point Blank Shot as an AA.</p><p>In order for it to be effective we must spend eight AA's to get it to a level where it will actually do something.</p><p>In order to get AA's, we must purchase Kingdom of Sky.</p><p>Kingdom of Sky is content for 60+</p><p>Therefore to help 'fix' my 43rd lvl Ranger, I must spend the money for an expansion I cannot use?!!</p><p>Have I got this right?</p><p>This doesn't bother anyone?</p>

[Fennir]

Sorry Mary, that premise relies on a misnomer.  PBS was never put in our AA lines to fix us.  You are not required to take it and our class is not balanced around having it.  I also would bet the stun will be 4s long at rank 4, and even higher past that.  I think they're just trying to avoid letting predators get a 4s heroic stun after only spending 5 points in a line.<b>The upcoming changes in LU#21 are being put in to fix us.  PBS is completely unrelated and is a bonus, if you choose to take it.</b><div></div>

[Bayler_x]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:I also would bet the stun will be 4s long at rank 4, and even higher past that.  I think they're just trying to avoid letting predators get a 4s heroic stun after only spending 5 points in a line.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I agree; before the change, there was really no reason to spend more than 4 points on PBS ever.  By making the duration depend on how much you've invested, they make it a viable choice for how to spend your points.</span></div>

[Bre]

<div></div><p>Hi,</p><p>PBS at app3 has a duration of 2.7 seconds, app4 is 2.8 seconds. After that I have no idea. I can get off one short bowshot with it currently.</p><p>I feedbacked it.</p><p>Brega, 63 rd season Ranger, Test</p>

[Fennir]

that sucks [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]<div></div>

[Avendelf]

<div>why cant they just leave rangers the %*&# alone...if they are itching to nerf someone how about the 700 DPS Ele's or thw wizzies soloing ^^^ nameds in KoS or...I mean the list goes on of classes that need way more nerfing than rangers...what the hell did we ever do to them.  Im starting to take this personal...sorry but I guess im finally adjusting to the LU20 meganerf and now am hearing about more...bitterness...</div>

[ReynardTheFox]

The SOE devs are either idiots or are under time constraints from management such that they are not allowed to think their changes through.It seems that they are alienating many players with their receent changes.<div></div>

[Shaulin Dolamite]

<div></div>Always something, i would agree with last poster, Devs must be under time restraints cause this just doesnt make sence <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[dbmoreland]

So they took a very nice ability and totaly nerfed it into near uselessness, wonderful. 2.3 sec for rank 1 I can see, just enough to do something but lots of insentive to improve it. But a lousy 0.2 sec per rank?? Like we are actualy going to notice. Although I cannot say I am too suprised, now the upgrades for PBS are as worthless as those for fitness. Here is hoping they do NOT take these changes from test to live, like they did NOT take the Conj pet nerfs from test to live.<div></div>

[Vlath]

<div></div><p>I dont know where you all were getting your data from, but I got this achievement on live last night and stun duration is 3.6 at rank 1 PVE, and 1.8 PVP.</p><p>I dont know if its stat related nor what it will be as you progress. It was enough time for me to back up and get two Ranged CAs off or Stealthing backstab followed by our large backstab.</p><p>Well worth it for any ranger.</p><p> </p><p>Schade, Nagafen</p>

[Fennir]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Vlath wrote:<div></div><p>I dont know where you all were getting your data from, but I got this achievement on live</p><hr size="2" width="100%"></blockquote>If you read the thread title, you'd know.</span></div>

[Vlath]

<div></div><p>Yes on Test, I realize that...I guess I assumed that all they did was allow the duration to be upgradeable. It didnt dawn on me that they would actually nerf the existing duration as it is now.</p><p> </p><p>What was I thinking? My bad.</p><p> </p><p>Schade, Nagafen</p>