the key to happiness

[TrigunVash]

<div>hahahahah im so happy i rerolled, trashed my 60 ranger. i dont have to worry about the super nerfage anymore!join me and dance in feilds of grandure!</div>

[TaleraRis]

I would dance in a feild but I don't know what a feild is.<div></div>

[QuiPo]

<div></div><p>Sorry but this is one of the lamest posts Ive seen in awhile. IMO you should dedicate yourself to your class and roll with the punches/class changes as balancing is an ongoing process. If you picked your class because it was flavor of the month best dps then Im sure when your new reroll class gets nerfed youre gonna be equally unhappy.</p><p> </p>

[Andalla]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>TrigunVash wrote:<div>hahahahah im so happy i rerolled, trashed my 60 ranger. i dont have to worry about the super nerfage anymore!join me and dance in feilds of grandure!</div><hr></blockquote>You should make a conjurer. They are the current flavor of the month. You'll be super happy with them, and they will never get nerfed!</span></div>

[Taubin]

<div></div><div><span><blockquote><hr>Andalla wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>TrigunVash wrote:<div>hahahahah im so happy i rerolled, trashed my 60 ranger. i dont have to worry about the super nerfage anymore!join me and dance in feilds of grandure!</div><hr></blockquote>You should make a conjurer. They are the current flavor of the month. You'll be super happy with them, and they will never get nerfed!</span></div><hr></blockquote>I found this rather amusing, I wonder how many of them freaked out <span>:smileytongue:</span><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=50075#M50075">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=50075#M50075</a>Scroll to the first post</span></div><p>Message Edited by GTaubin on <span class="date_text">03-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p>

[Saihung23]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>TrigunVash wrote:<div>hahahahah im so happy i rerolled, trashed my 60 ranger. i dont have to worry about the super nerfage anymore!join me and dance in feilds of grandure!</div><hr></blockquote><p>Hrmm...I trashed my level 6 monk not long ago...let me go post over there on the monk boards how I trashed a character.  Oh wait, they wont care...let me see if the wizards care if I trash my level 38 Wizard, probably not since I dont get along too well  with them.</p><p>This is definately in my top ten of most useless and meaningless posts (next to quite a few of my own <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</p><p>Peace</p><p>Saihung</p>

[Star]

<div></div><p>I'm gonna trash my 67 WE Ranger and reroll as a WE Ranger with Red Hair just for Sai and in honor of this post.... :smileywink:</p><p> </p><p>On second thought, no I'm not. Sorry Sai.</p>

[TaleraRis]

<div>Come Sai! Dance in feilds with us!</div>

[Gareorn]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>GTaubin wrote:<div></div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=50075#M50075">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=50075#M50075</a>Scroll to the first post</span></div><p>Message Edited by GTaubin on <span class="date_text">03-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Some of the Ranger posts on that thread are somewhat troubling.  I'm not a big fan of stirring up trouble in someone else's forums.  And, although this is the testing forum, Blackguard was clearly addressing the summoner concerns.

[Saihung23]

<div></div><p>I danced nekkid in the feilds the other day!! Just like the hippie kittie I am!</p><p> </p><p>btw, I didnt like some of the replies...but then again, you have some guy baiting the rangers with taunts (which is odd coming from a non tank forum).  I of all people shouldnt comment on <ahem> questionable posts.</p><p>I like living in the world of the unbanned...makes posting much easier heh.</p><p>Sai</p>

[StealthM0]

<div></div><p>Trashing a character is always an unwise idea, especially over accidental nerfing.</p><p>My point:</p><p>They are fixing rangers. That trashed toon is going to be fixed soon, but you will no longer be able to play it cause you trashed it. Ah well, have fun in your next class. The rest of us will sit and wait a few and get our uber dps back eventually (they've fixed rangers a LOT on test, and rumor has it those changes are going live real soon).</p>

[Jay]

<div></div>Cool, glad to hear you moved on to something more fun. Playing a ranger definitely isn't for everybody.

[TaleraRis]

<div></div>*takes Kae by the hands and dances in the feilds with him*

[Steezi]

<div></div><div></div><p>Personally i havent played since a week after nerfs were put in. I originally planned on continuing, but just never got the feeling that i wanted to log in...(First toon was a ranger, he's all i ever play) Got sick of not playing something similar, so i went out and I picked up WoW...</p><p>For anyone who feels similar, IE first poster, and disregarding about everybody that has posted since him...I'll tell ya what ive xperienced...</p><p>First things first, totally different games, so im not getting into which game is more fun. Thats a personal thing, and people like what they like.  If, however, you really are quitting your main class entirely because of these nerfs, maybe EQ just isnt the game for you... they WILL keep changing EVERY class, so simply rerolling your character is going to end badly. The combat systems in WoW are so simple, (ie using about 10 CA's max instead of [Removed for Content] like 35...) that this will simply not happen there.</p><p>That being said, EQ has better graphics, better concept, more diversity in monsters and gear, the grouping and raiding systems are FAAAAAAAAAAAAR superior...blah blah blah... in short imo its just a better game. WoW does have a bigger world in the sense that there are many more places per tier (ie say like everfrost, lavastorm, RV, etc for a t5 player...) that can be xplored...My problem is that i think that SOE lost control of their combat system, being so complex that they cant particularly handle it... WoW is so simple all you have to worry about is massive amounts of people, and worse lag than EQ ever has.</p><p>In short, as it is now, im enjoying WoW immensly. I cant, however, imagine myself not getting sick of it soon and coming straight back to good ol EQ. EQ is a commitment, and i cant imagine that many people would give up onnit easily...</p><p>Stylee Mc'Cutta 62 ranga (Nek)</p><p>*Edit* btw... if this gets this thread locked, who cares... trash thread neway!</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Steezity on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:39 PM</span></p>

[Carna]

<div></div><p>I always thought WoWs zone environement were significantly better than EQ2. Like by a mile.... remember there's still a far few places you haven't seen yet.... run through a forest in WoW then in EQ2 and there's no comparison. The level of design detail in the WoW environment just blows EQ2 out of the water.... compare Ironforge to EQ2 cities.</p><p>My only wish is that they'd update the character models in WoW.</p><p>And I could go and count, but I'm 90% sure that a Hunters with all his CAs will actually have significantly more CAs on his toolbar than a Ranger... I'll make a list, it'd be an interesting comparison <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Personally I think WoW is deceptive. I think and argument could be made that the gameplay of a Hunter is actually more complex than that of a Ranger... the same for most other classes... Warrior stances. EQ2 copied the idea of stance <strong>from</strong> WoW and they're a fraction as rich. Warriors in WoW bounce between 3 different stances with different CAs avaliable from each stance depending on what CAs they fleshed out in their person AA build. How you change stances from second to second (literally second to second) as a Warrior in WoW has a huge impact on your effectiveness... building rage as a Warrior to unload your big moves... building up combo points as a Rogue to highten the impact of your key skills... are you a Sword Rogue or a Dagger built Rogue? Are you built around the Subtelty, Assassination or Combat trees?... does your Hunter favour Beastmastery, Marksmanship or Survival.... etc etc. I think WoWs combat is actually more complex. Character development is more complex as even mid level characters will be debating with each other their choices in molding their class. Whether their Rogue is better spamming points in combat into Slice and Dice (self haste), or better building points through Backstab leading to a big hitting Eviscerate. Two different Rogues can be playing two <strong>completely</strong> different styles of combat, with very different tactics and patterns of play.</p><p>This forum is not filled with fine point analysis of different Ranger builds.</p><p>Crafting in WoW <strong>is</strong> much simpler than EQ2. Mind you, most everybody actually crafts in WoW... My Hunter skinned the animals he killed in WoW, and big game hunting was actually big game hunting tracking and taking down dinosaurs in the jungle.</p><p>I <strong>really really</strong> like both games. I just think the people that did the environment graphics in EQ2 were more geek than artist. Take a flight out of Ironforge, out over the snowy mountains swooping down into the harbour and you know they had real artists working on WoWs landscapes.</p><p>Questing is richer in WoW and there are many long archs of quest chains.... my Elf was completing in his 20s a quest chain he started at level 1 that carried him to a different continent and into the backstory of the Elves.</p><p>I think there's very good reasons WoW has 10 times the playerbase of EQ2 that touch on most aspects of modern game design.</p><p>I'm playing and loving EQ2 because I played and loved WoW, got to 60, explored the world. I love the development of a character. I've never been a fan of end games, and I actually think that SOE tends to cater to end games better than Blizzard. But as I said, I'm not a big fan of end games. everybody gets too tense and serious in the end game <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Dungeons and Dragons Online is just out if you fancied a look at something else. I live on a wee island, so it'll be a week or so before I can get my mits on a copy.... why anybody isn't doing digital downloads in this day and ages is beyond me...</p><p>Oh, and to finish... those who feel EQ2 is a better designed game... good on ya.... really, I'd not try and disuade or disparage somebodies preferences. EQ2 is a wonderful game, and I'm having heaps of fun with it. If you could only play one game though, and were asking me which you should play I'd absolutely say WoW.</p><p>I just wish they'd update the character models.</p>

[Steezi]

<div></div><div></div><p>Yah.. pretty much right with everything in this post that i can actually relate to... I'm only a 35 dagger/assassin rogue but the design of places like IF and UC are fairly ridiculous (good way). Ive been attempting to discover all the areas possible, and havent even covered 1/5 of the map yet... seems like it would take about 5 hours to run across up/down one of the conitinents...</p><p>The biggest difference i can see in gameplay would be the format of groups... ie in EQ how tank taunts and takes all damage, while others dps and drop aggro and heal etc.... Hard to describe, as the format is similar in WoW, but much more of an everyman for himself feel... I would imagine that this would make raiding a completely different experience...</p><p>Im lookin forward to attempting level 70 and raiding one of the big cities...</p><p>But once again ill prolly be back to EQ soon. Might have just been pressure of big raid guild...gets to be like a job having to show up for 5 hours evernight of the week... we'll see. I'm finding i miss my character more than the game itself, which cant be good :smileyvery-happy:</p><p>*EDIT* btw, when i was talking about the complexity of the battle systems... I was speaking in terms of the coding and such. EQ's battle system has too many variables tossed in for them to control properly... The battle system of WoW seems to give that complexity to the player instead.. (if that makes any sense whatsoever)</p><p>basically IMHO in EQ there is a base level of skill that a player needs to function.. (whether it be for raids or just groups or soloing) and once they hit that skill level, they sort of plateu... seems to become more of an effort in maintaining that skill level for hours over time than progressing it. (i suppose finding the new ways to "outsmart" soe on dps count, but floor will keep droppin from yah)</p><p>In WoW ive progressivly been getting more "skilled" and figuring out better uses for the skills i already have.</p><p>the only complaints ive ever heard about class imbalance are about "priests take a long time to kill stuff" which is fine.</p><p>Message Edited by Steezity on <span class="date_text">03-14-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:25 AM</span></p>

[macte]

<span><blockquote><hr>Carnagh wrote:<div></div><p> Warrior stances. EQ2 copied the idea of stance <strong>from</strong> WoW and they're a fraction as rich.</p>Not to nitpick, but offensive and defensive stances were in EQ1, long before WoW was more than a great new idea at Blizzard.  Rest of your post is interesting though.</blockquote></span><div></div>

[sAs-Bartleby]

the key to happiness........ canceling the account.

[Teksun]

the key to happiness...           ........ watching others cancel their accounts over trivial problems....<div></div>

[tweety1972]

<div></div>The key to happiness.... being able to play instead of working two 17.5 hour shifts back to back.